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by **red_guy** » Wed May 09, 2007 4:30 am

Put him on the bench. Use him later in the 2nd half. If we didnt include him in the finals, that would be stupid.

by **Owzat** » Wed May 09, 2007 2:14 pm

duk wrote:
Owzat wrote:Does Kewell deserve a place in the final considering he has played no part in getting us there? Add to that his injury record since he joined and I wouldn't risk him. We don't need primadonnas who simply appear in finals as if it is their birthright, it would stick in the throat if he plays three games for us all season and one was the CL final

Don't like this post,
I doubt Harry chose to be injured for every game except for finals.
You are implying that he choses to be injured all season so he can come back for the last few games, i doubt thats what he wants at all
He is a good player, faw better than Speedy Zenden and Arbeloa and therefore if fit and able should take their place in the squad.
What you are sayin is that despite the fact he is a good player punish him further for something he can't control?
Don't you think he hates being injured? hates not playing?
I obviously don't know him personally and i doubt you do, but i really doubt that anyone thinks like that
give him a break and let him concentrate on playing football, whether that's in this final or not

I am saying no matter how good a player is that Kewell has contributed nothing to the campaign so someone else will have EARNED the final place ahead of him and he shouldn't just be picked ESPECIALLY as he is an injury risk. It won't go down well with the other players whose hard work ALL SEASON will be rewarded with a place on the bench while superstar takes a final place. I wouldn't blame him for doing it, like you say it isn't his fault he's been injured, but considering he's been injured quite a bit he's played a high percentage of finals

Your blinkered view on the matter and sh 1 te approach to replying ("Don't like this post") beggars belief. You'd take show pony who frankly has yet to justify his reputation with us when he has been fit, over players who've contributed to the progress to the final based on he is classier despite not having proven it. The cons outweigh the pros, last thing we need is Kewell breaking down or proving ineffective against MILAN. This won't be Fulham or Charlton, this will be the team that beat the Premiership Champions. NO player has the right to a final place, even if he were the best player we have (which he ain't)

I gave your response more time and 'respect' than it merits, I shall not repeat that mistake

by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Wed May 09, 2007 2:40 pm

Owzat wrote:NO player has the right to a final place, even if he were the best player we have (which he ain't)

I think your spot on here.. No player has the right to a final place. I presume that includes everyone who has played some part in getting us to the final.

We should include players who will be able execute the plans that Rafa will have drawn up to beat Milan.

If Rafa needs a player who can beat a player on the left wing and provide excellent crosses into the box, a fit Harry Kewell is our best option.

by **EddieC** » Wed May 09, 2007 2:56 pm

JoeTerp wrote:Mascherano had nothing to do with us getting out of the group stages but there was no problem playing him against Chelsea was there? If Kewell plays it turns one of our biggest weaknesses into a possible strength because he is a threat to score goals and take on a defender. I really want Kewell to play in the final if he starts against Fulham and plays well

Hate to break it to you Joe, but we'd already played Fulham when you posted this.

by **Bad Bob** » Wed May 09, 2007 5:42 pm

Owzat wrote:I am saying no matter how good a player is that Kewell has contributed nothing to the campaign so someone else will have EARNED the final place ahead of him and he shouldn't just be picked ESPECIALLY as he is an injury risk. It won't go down well with the other players whose hard work ALL SEASON will be rewarded with a place on the bench while superstar takes a final place.

Well, the other way to look at it, mate, is to suggest that the other hopefuls for the LM slot in Athens have had an entire season to make their case that they deserve the role ahead of Kewell and they've failed to do so. If Rafa does go with Harry those players should be embarrassed rather than p!ssed off, I should think.

by **hello_red** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:03 pm

Kewell is an excellent player and a professional one at that. so what if he has been injured all season, not his fault is it.

not like he chose to have operations and injury that fuct him all season.

he should play a part in the final.

play Zenden, if he dosnt have any impact whatso ever bring on Kewell early on. AC Mialn wont have anything in there game plan for him beacuse he has out all seaon and in the semi final against chelsea last season he took the :censored:

out of there defence which is as good if not slightly better than Milans.

thank you

by **europian-kings** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:06 pm

i think he deserves another season to show us what he can do...if injuries are again made or he doesn't look the player he once was then im sure a team like pompy will buy him

they allways buy the rejects

by **duk** » Wed May 09, 2007 7:28 pm

Owzat wrote:
duk wrote:
Owzat wrote:Does Kewell deserve a place in the final considering he has played no part in getting us there? Add to that his injury record since he joined and I wouldn't risk him. We don't need primadonnas who simply appear in finals as if it is their birthright, it would stick in the throat if he plays three games for us all season and one was the CL final

Don't like this post,
I doubt Harry chose to be injured for every game except for finals.
You are implying that he choses to be injured all season so he can come back for the last few games, i doubt thats what he wants at all
He is a good player, faw better than Speedy Zenden and Arbeloa and therefore if fit and able should take their place in the squad.
What you are sayin is that despite the fact he is a good player punish him further for something he can't control?
Don't you think he hates being injured? hates not playing?
I obviously don't know him personally and i doubt you do, but i really doubt that anyone thinks like that
give him a break and let him concentrate on playing football, whether that's in this final or not

I am saying no matter how good a player is that Kewell has contributed nothing to the campaign so someone else will have EARNED the final place ahead of him and he shouldn't just be picked ESPECIALLY as he is an injury risk. It won't go down well with the other players whose hard work ALL SEASON will be rewarded with a place on the bench while superstar takes a final place. I wouldn't blame him for doing it, like you say it isn't his fault he's been injured, but considering he's been injured quite a bit he's played a high percentage of finals

Your blinkered view on the matter and sh 1 te approach to replying ("Don't like this post") beggars belief. You'd take show pony who frankly has yet to justify his reputation with us when he has been fit, over players who've contributed to the progress to the final based on he is classier despite not having proven it. The cons outweigh the pros, last thing we need is Kewell breaking down or proving ineffective against MILAN. This won't be Fulham or Charlton, this will be the team that beat the Premiership Champions. NO player has the right to a final place, even if he were the best player we have (which he ain't)

I gave your response more time and 'respect' than it merits, I shall not repeat that mistake

Sorry was a bit of a rushed response however i do believe i have a point

I think not playing him because he hasn't played in earlier rounds is a poor reason, he is a better option than Arbeloa, Zenden and Gonzo so therefore should be considered

Rafa would not play him if he doesn't believe he is ready therefore if he appears we must think that he is fit and his injuries are behind him,

It isn't his birth right to appear but he is our best option (when fit) so he should be considered, i don't believe that is a poor aproach to the subject at all

by **JoeTerp** » Wed May 09, 2007 8:06 pm

EddieC wrote:
JoeTerp wrote:Mascherano had nothing to do with us getting out of the group stages but there was no problem playing him against Chelsea was there? If Kewell plays it turns one of our biggest weaknesses into a possible strength because he is a threat to score goals and take on a defender. I really want Kewell to play in the final if he starts against Fulham and plays well

Hate to break it to you Joe, but we'd already played Fulham when you posted this.

meant to say Charlton but I think the fact that he subbed in the Fulham game was on my mind at the time

by **7_Kewell** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:51 pm

a 70% match fit Kewell is better than Zenden and Gonzales...he's our best winger and should play...simple.

by **RedBlood** » Wed May 09, 2007 10:28 pm

id stick H on the bench because he has quality that few of our players posess, he's a match winner and is dew a bit of luck in a final

by **Big Niall** » Thu May 10, 2007 1:44 pm

If we win, he'll have 2 Champions league medals and an FA cup final one too,

The least deserving player to ever have won that much.

I'd still pick though as Zenden is rubbish.

by **RedBlood** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:41 pm

Big Niall wrote:If we win, he'll have 2 Champions league medals and an FA cup final one too,

The least deserving player to ever have won that much.

I'd still pick though as Zenden is rubbish.

why doesnt he deserve them??
because he was unlucky enough to get injured??

there are far less talented players than harry kewell with more medals than him ask david may

by **7_Kewell** » Thu May 10, 2007 8:39 pm

RedBlood wrote:id stick H on the bench because he has quality that few of our players posess, he's a match winner and is dew a bit of luck in a final

exactly...who better to bring on with 25 mins to go than Harry Kewell?

by **DazH-** » Thu May 10, 2007 9:58 pm

Personally I reckon that Kewell will play a part in the final coz Rafa has a track record of playin him in the really big games, like in Istanbul and in the FA cup final. Rafa's comments will motivate him in training and against Charlton and though people believe he may be better off easing his way back for pre-season what better way to bulid next season on than a Champions League final appearance and quite possibly a winners medal?

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