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Postby murphy0151 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:57 pm

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s@int wrote:I think people are too eager to jump on a young players back. He has had terrible injuries, problems off the pitch and now is suffering from loss of form. Give the lad a break and lets see what happens, rather than jumping on his back after a few dodgy games. Most young players have setbacks in their career, usually after about 12 months or so , Sissoko is no different. He gives his all every game and deserves some respect for that at least. He was collecting MOM awards earlier this season and suddenly hes surplus to requirements?

If as Badbob has said the team has moved on and we no longer require a battling destroyer type of player, thats fair enough but don't judge him prematurely. Personally I feel that he is being played now in a position that is unsuitable for his "limited" abilities, but who's fault is that? Having Gerrard playing as second striker or in the hole or whatever cr@p you want to call it is never going to suit Sissoko, as Gerrard wants and needs that space for himself when playing that role (which in itself is not Gerrards forte). I agree he is probably now our 4 choice, but I still think he is a worthy 4th choice.

Saint, am not on his back mate, never have been. The lads a decent player and certainly a good fourth choice. But thats the point, thats all he'll ever be.

I like him, but he'll never be good enough to start every week.

Thats your opinion stu murph.   

But once again your opinion will be proved wrong.
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Postby Rush Job » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:27 am

grayghost wrote:Why is rafa playing momo so far forward he has't got a clue up there he is more affective when we are under pressure from attacking sides.
PS should be the first name on the sheet for the chelsie though game when he played aginst them in the carling cup he was outstanding that day had Ballack and lampost in his pocket.

He looked like he had Ballack and a Lampost in his pocket you say, well f*ck me now i know What "Momo is boss" means.
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Postby Stu.Murph » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:04 am

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s@int wrote:I think people are too eager to jump on a young players back. He has had terrible injuries, problems off the pitch and now is suffering from loss of form. Give the lad a break and lets see what happens, rather than jumping on his back after a few dodgy games. Most young players have setbacks in their career, usually after about 12 months or so , Sissoko is no different. He gives his all every game and deserves some respect for that at least. He was collecting MOM awards earlier this season and suddenly hes surplus to requirements?

If as Badbob has said the team has moved on and we no longer require a battling destroyer type of player, thats fair enough but don't judge him prematurely. Personally I feel that he is being played now in a position that is unsuitable for his "limited" abilities, but who's fault is that? Having Gerrard playing as second striker or in the hole or whatever cr@p you want to call it is never going to suit Sissoko, as Gerrard wants and needs that space for himself when playing that role (which in itself is not Gerrards forte). I agree he is probably now our 4 choice, but I still think he is a worthy 4th choice.

Saint, am not on his back mate, never have been. The lads a decent player and certainly a good fourth choice. But thats the point, thats all he'll ever be.

I like him, but he'll never be good enough to start every week.

Thats your opinion stu murph.   

But once again your opinion will be proved wrong.

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Postby Lando_Griffin » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:13 am

Momo is a good battling, ball-winning midfielder, but he lacks even basic skills elsewhere in his game.

How many more times does this need to be said?

I want to keep the lad, as he definitely has his uses, but he ain't good enough to keep Gerrard, Xabi or Mascherano out of the team for anything other than a rest.
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Benitez: Don't blame SissokoApr 20 2007
by David Prentice, Liverpool Echo

RAFA BENITEZ is ready to take the rap for midfielder Momo Sissoko’s recent loss of form.

And the Reds boss believes the young African will bounce back from his travails to become a mainstay of the Liverpool squad for years to come.

Since returning from a lengthy absence with a dislocated shoulder, Sissoko has failed to recapture the heights he scaled during a highly impressive first season in English football.

Against Middlesbrough on Wednesday night he endured his most ineffective appearance to date, before he was hauled off just six minutes after the interval.

With Steven Gerrard back in his vacated central midfield berth, Liverpool went on to win 2-0, with the skipper scoring both goals.
But Benitez said today that fans should point the finger at the manager rather than the young midfielder.

“I knew that Momo was having some problems in that position on Wednesday, but that was more my fault than his fault,” said Benitez. “I said to him ‘play here and try to do your best’ because I wanted to play a different system, but he had problems because the other team was compact and very narrow.

“They constricted the space between the lines and for him to play in this position was a big problem.
“But I wanted to check out another system.
“It was more my fault than his, but at the end of the day people must remember he is 22-years-old and has done a very good job, a fantastic job, for two seasons and we must support him.”
Benitez revealed that he spoke to Sissoko the morning after the Middlesbrough match and reassured him.

“He sometimes needs an arm around him because he loses confidence, but never because he has stopped working,” said the Reds boss.

“I spoke to him on Thursday and I said ‘I don’t have any problems. Keep working. I have a lot of confidence in you.’


“I said I know there are former players and people here in Liverpool who are talking, but I say if you work hard the supporters will be with you.


“If you make mistakes keep working and keep doing the same things and the people will be with you.


“Everybody knows what Momo Sissoko gives to us. He works really hard and he was a key player for us against Barcelona and lots of other games.


“Also, he is a player who can give freedom to Steven Gerrard and Xabi Alonso.


“But we must be patient with him. If a player is not working hard, okay you can criticise him.


“He is working really hard and he has also played very well after a bad injury, so I say we must be calm and support the player.


“He is a young player and he will have maybe eight or 10 years at this level.


“Momo is a very good worker and he needs to be more confident with the ball. He’s a professional player and he wants to do the best every time.”
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Postby red37 » Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:01 pm

Get it sorted Rafa. Sharpish.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:06 pm

This is what puzzles me about rafa , why on earth is he trying out a new system with 4 games to go until the end of the season, talk about forward planning. :D
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Postby murphy0151 » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:31 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:This is what puzzles me about rafa , why on earth is he trying out a new system with 4 games to go until the end of the season, talk about forward planning. :D

Trying new systems out now in these games like we have been.  Is giving nothing away for the champions league game with Chelsea.  They will be like :censored: how the :censored: are they going to be playing today.   Makes sense really, especialy if a good plan comes of with us sercuring champions league football once again against wigan on sat.
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Postby Sabre » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:50 pm

Despite I defend him, I swear I'm not Rafa's brother  :D

IMHO Rafa is testing a system he knows very well, the 4-4-1-1, and the outcome of these tests, have been a draw away, a great victory against Arsenal, a victory against Reading, and a victory against Middlesborough. Rijkaard also changed his system to play against us, heh, we eliminated them. :D

Why now and not the past season? because now he has Pennant, and yesteryear we hadn't. Now we have Mascherano, and we hadn't him in November. He has the men to try it out. And tested Sissoko in a home game to see if he can suit the system. It didn't work.

OTher than that, what Rafa is saying, is what Bigmick and many of us are saying, that Sissoko had an important contribution in the past, admittedly he's not having good games as of late, but with hard work and a tap in the shoulder he'll come back.
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Postby Stu.Murph » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:50 pm

Sissoko thread for SJD.

Check out the bashing I got for saying (a year ago) what everyone else is saying about him now.

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Postby Sabre » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:59 pm

Stu showing our home to a new guest and being kind and everything?

I'm optimistic, but I didn't see this coming  :D
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Postby Smeg » Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:37 pm

Sissoko thread for everyone.

Check out the bashing "Stu" got for saying (a year or two ago) what everyone else is saying about him now.

Don't ya just hate it when someone as clueless as "Stu" gets things right?

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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:03 pm

Yer know , I can't be a'rsed to read through the 18 pages of this thread to establish just what your point is.

Maybe you think this is some kind of political platform ?

Suggest you drop it now.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:05 pm

Stu.Murph wrote:
s@int wrote:I think people are too eager to jump on a young players back. He has had terrible injuries, problems off the pitch and now is suffering from loss of form. Give the lad a break and lets see what happens, rather than jumping on his back after a few dodgy games. Most young players have setbacks in their career, usually after about 12 months or so , Sissoko is no different. He gives his all every game and deserves some respect for that at least. He was collecting MOM awards earlier this season and suddenly hes surplus to requirements?

If as Badbob has said the team has moved on and we no longer require a battling destroyer type of player, thats fair enough but don't judge him prematurely. Personally I feel that he is being played now in a position that is unsuitable for his "limited" abilities, but who's fault is that? Having Gerrard playing as second striker or in the hole or whatever cr@p you want to call it is never going to suit Sissoko, as Gerrard wants and needs that space for himself when playing that role (which in itself is not Gerrards forte). I agree he is probably now our 4 choice, but I still think he is a worthy 4th choice.

Saint, am not on his back mate, never have been. The lads a decent player and certainly a good fourth choice. But thats the point, thats all he'll ever be.

I like him, but he'll never be good enough to start every week.

In the thread I started on Sissoko, I was just celebrating Sissoko has returned to form, appears to have gained a little more composure and started to play well again. When I mentioned you Stu it was because your opinion did and still does carry a lot of weight with many of us, not a get at Stu post at all.

I dont think what I said then (or you said )contradicts what I said in my latest thread.
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Postby destro » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:06 pm

Guest wrote:Against Arsenal he played against a past it Pires, an off form and overated Ljungberg, Gliberto Silva (who's Arsenal's best midfielder) and the vastly overated Fabregas.

He wasn't right about everything though   :p
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