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Postby 66-1112520797 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:40 pm

Similar to Bob he for me needs to have something else to his game, not just the " ball hunter". He definately is better than what we're seeing at the moment, he's shown us that before. But as he is now, he isnt good enough to shift Alonso, Gerrard or Masch out of position.
Like Bob says, he's immense during the "big" clashes, but we dont play "big" clashes every game when I think ball retainers and deep lying playmakers are required against the likes of Boro.

I did say this in another thread, it was weird seeing Momo in the first half especially, take up positions Gerrards been accustomed to. That position made him look a whole lot worse than he is last night. But you cannot excuse a proffesional football for missplacing a simple 5 yard pass (on more than one occasion).
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Postby grayghost » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:34 pm

Why is rafa playing momo so far forward he has't got a clue up there he is more affective when we are under pressure from attacking sides.
PS should be the first name on the sheet for the chelsie though game when he played aginst them in the carling cup he was outstanding that day had Ballack and lampost in his pocket.
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Postby H_K_LFC » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:41 pm

Sissoko is 22 and is still progressing. For me he is a quality player and will one day become world class. Got no doubts about him at all :cool:
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:46 pm

I think people are too eager to jump on a young players back. He has had terrible injuries, problems off the pitch and now is suffering from loss of form. Give the lad a break and lets see what happens, rather than jumping on his back after a few dodgy games. Most young players have setbacks in their career, usually after about 12 months or so , Sissoko is no different. He gives his all every game and deserves some respect for that at least. He was collecting MOM awards earlier this season and suddenly hes surplus to requirements?

If as Badbob has said the team has moved on and we no longer require a battling destroyer type of player, thats fair enough but don't judge him prematurely. Personally I feel that he is being played now in a position that is unsuitable for his "limited" abilities, but who's fault is that? Having Gerrard playing as second striker or in the hole or whatever cr@p you want to call it is never going to suit Sissoko, as Gerrard wants and needs that space for himself when playing that role (which in itself is not Gerrards forte). I agree he is probably now our 4 choice, but I still think he is a worthy 4th choice.
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Postby grayghost » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:50 pm

If you could sell him to Barca who surposerdly were intrested in him and we could get Eto. would proberly have to give them 10mil aswell would you sell nowing he is 4th choice.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:55 pm

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Postby RedBlood » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:58 pm

sissoko is world class at what he does whitch is win the ball back off our opponents, there isnt many in the world that are close to him in that respect.

he isnt perfect ofcourse not nobody is but to jump on his back after a few off performances is a joke, the lad is 22 and always gives 100percent for the shirt, plus he has had two very bad injuries to deal with

he may well be fourth choice centre mid now but in our team that isnt a bad thing, and all the comparisons with viera were not of his own doing so he cant be blamed for that

i would hate to see him leave because he is a great asset to the team and has a great attitude and still has time to improve
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:01 pm

maybe we shouldnt be blaming momo, maybe we should be poining the finger at rafa for asking momo to play in a way thet he is not capable of doing.

we all know he is not an attacking or skillful player, so why is he being asked to be the attacking midfielder, or am i being naive on this, can we reasonably expect a professional footballer to be able to trap a ball, control it and pass it to a team mate
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Postby Ace Ventura » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:08 pm

To be fair Saint i dont think any or many fans are saying sell him or get rid.
More give him a break or if we are going to play him, dont play him as the most attacking centre midfielder, he is no threat at all goalwise and the chances of him using the ball properly are slim.
I wouldnt of been as bothered if he had played in Mascherano's position with Gerrard in front of him and two strikers...although it probably would of been a mistake still.
If we are playing our best tean to try and build momentum then at the minute he isnt in it.
Do i want us to sell him ? NO WAY, he will have a big part to play in our squad. Just not as an attacking midfielder  :D
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Postby grayghost » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:12 pm

RedBlood wrote:sissoko is world class at what he does whitch is win the ball back off our opponents, there isnt many in the world that are close to him in that respect.

he isnt perfect ofcourse not nobody is but to jump on his back after a few off performances is a joke, the lad is 22 and always gives 100percent for the shirt, plus he has had two very bad injuries to deal with

he may well be fourth choice centre mid now but in our team that isnt a bad thing, and all the comparisons with viera were not of his own doing so he cant be blamed for that

i would hate to see him leave because he is a great asset to the team and has a great attitude and still has time to improve

I agree with what you say he is one of the best at what he does and that is break teams down when we are under pressure but there are not many of those games for liverpool now days with Masherino we seem to be keeping posseion a whole lot more but not having the attacking players to break teams down  it is us who seem to be applying the pressure of late but still strudlling to break teams down with momos inclusion. Should have played Alonso from start. Taking momo off early has proberly set him back cofidence wise it would have been better leaving him out.
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Postby Scottbot » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:33 pm

bigmick wrote:I think the thing is with sissoko which I'm finding a little odd is that if you look through the thread, many people rated the fella and those same fans are now ready to ship him out on the back of some admittedly dodgy performances.

Same here mate. It's like reading through the tabloids, no balance of opinion whatsoever. Sissoko was never as good as some were making out throughout much of this thread but i can't believe i'm reading posts about the lad that simply say "Donkey"  :veryangry
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:38 pm

Scottbot wrote:Sissoko was never as good as some were making out throughout much of this thread but i can't believe i'm reading posts about the lad that simply say "Donkey"  :veryangry

that was me    :D


the guy is a hired gun, he is a tackler and thats as far as it goes, he has not got a footballing brain, if he was playing for another club we would be calling him a donkey or hacker, he lacks any semblance of skill on the ball.

guys i want the league and there is no place for sentiment, lets hope he either improves or is replaced by someone with technical ability
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Postby Bad Bob » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:09 pm

grayghost wrote:If you could sell him to Barca who surposerdly were intrested in him and we could get Eto. would proberly have to give them 10mil aswell would you sell nowing he is 4th choice.

Seriously, lad, you are like a broken record.  We are not going to be selling any of our central midfielders to Barca in exchange for Eto'o.   Not Alonso.  Not Sissoko.  It just won't happen.  Rafa rates these players highly and will not be looking to get rid of either of them.  Conversely, these lads are quite happy at Liverpool and are not looking to move on.  If Eto'o is to come here, it will be a straight transfer not through a swap deal.
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Postby RedBlood » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:03 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
grayghost wrote:If you could sell him to Barca who surposerdly were intrested in him and we could get Eto. would proberly have to give them 10mil aswell would you sell nowing he is 4th choice.

Seriously, lad, you are like a broken record.  We are not going to be selling any of our central midfielders to Barca in exchange for Eto'o.   Not Alonso.  Not Sissoko.  It just won't happen.  Rafa rates these players highly and will not be looking to get rid of either of them.  Conversely, these lads are quite happy at Liverpool and are not looking to move on.  If Eto'o is to come here, it will be a straight transfer not through a swap deal.

unless we could swap him for ciise  :wwww
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Postby Stu.Murph » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:19 pm

s@int wrote:I think people are too eager to jump on a young players back. He has had terrible injuries, problems off the pitch and now is suffering from loss of form. Give the lad a break and lets see what happens, rather than jumping on his back after a few dodgy games. Most young players have setbacks in their career, usually after about 12 months or so , Sissoko is no different. He gives his all every game and deserves some respect for that at least. He was collecting MOM awards earlier this season and suddenly hes surplus to requirements?

If as Badbob has said the team has moved on and we no longer require a battling destroyer type of player, thats fair enough but don't judge him prematurely. Personally I feel that he is being played now in a position that is unsuitable for his "limited" abilities, but who's fault is that? Having Gerrard playing as second striker or in the hole or whatever cr@p you want to call it is never going to suit Sissoko, as Gerrard wants and needs that space for himself when playing that role (which in itself is not Gerrards forte). I agree he is probably now our 4 choice, but I still think he is a worthy 4th choice.

Saint, am not on his back mate, never have been. The lads a decent player and certainly a good fourth choice. But thats the point, thats all he'll ever be.

I like him, but he'll never be good enough to start every week.
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