metalhead wrote:I forgot to add why its the universities fault too.
I read today that about a week ago someone phoned the uni and said there was a bomb, so ofcourse they found out the person was lieng, so they ignored security measures, which I think it was a terrible mistake. Let me tell you of a past experience, my old school was phoned once, a year ago, and a prankster told them there is a bomb in the school, from this day forward my old school is taking alot of security measures and even created car passes for parents who want to pick up their cars, also increased security all over the campus. Why didn't VT adopt that idea, surely they should have increased security measures around campus to make sure everything is safe. Also, there was 2 incidents that happened right? first happened in a campus, then 2 hours later it happened in another campus, the funny thing is that the university warned the students through f*cking email! idiots! You f*cking warn them face to face or you call the security to f*cking evacute all the students from the f*cking university!
sometimes I lay my head in shame
Ciggy wrote:I really cant understand after he shot his girl or ex and her new fella, there was a two hour time lapse before he went on to shoot the 30 others.
I mean why?
What for?
The problem is in America someone dies every 3 seconds there is some right loonatics there.
And many feel the need to have a gun probably feel safer with than without I dont know how they are going to change the law.
Maybe make them not so freely available but guns are banned here yet someone gets shot every week.
I duno, its a terrible thing to happen to all them innocent students just going to college for a better future.
RIP.
JoeTerp wrote:woof woof ! wrote:Dundalk wrote:HAs anyone checked out the link peewee has put up?
Check out the rest of this guys photos, he was obsessed with guns!
He entered this time last year and reads:-
Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever had.
Created April 16, 2006
Was he the new boyfriend??
Spooky
Where did you see that info Dundalk ? All i'm getting is the two page photo album , showing him and a very nice looking chinese (?) girl.
you need to check out the other albums. they are the ones with all the guns. very disturbing. if this is the guy, don't think his name has been released. but he does fit the description
he posted this pic on april 14
Bad Bob wrote:metalhead wrote:I forgot to add why its the universities fault too.
I read today that about a week ago someone phoned the uni and said there was a bomb, so ofcourse they found out the person was lieng, so they ignored security measures, which I think it was a terrible mistake. Let me tell you of a past experience, my old school was phoned once, a year ago, and a prankster told them there is a bomb in the school, from this day forward my old school is taking alot of security measures and even created car passes for parents who want to pick up their cars, also increased security all over the campus. Why didn't VT adopt that idea, surely they should have increased security measures around campus to make sure everything is safe. Also, there was 2 incidents that happened right? first happened in a campus, then 2 hours later it happened in another campus, the funny thing is that the university warned the students through f*cking email! idiots! You f*cking warn them face to face or you call the security to f*cking evacute all the students from the f*cking university!
sometimes I lay my head in shame
Sorry, mate, but this is just not realistic. There is no way that even a small university can effectively warn students face to face...and that's assuming they have credible information to act on (which they didn't in this case). Unless universities are prepared to operate like prisons (and, believe me, nobody associated with the school would support that), there is no way that security will ever be tight enough to stop lunatics like this. The guy killed 32 people with two small hand guns, FFS. Not rifles, not semi-automatics...hand guns--that's 27 rounds combined before he has to reload and he fired over a hundred rounds. To do that, he chained the doors shut and followed what clearly had to be a thoroughly conceived plan. No university security system is going to be enough to stop that kind of calculated insanity. It's all well and good to blame gun culture but I can't support blaming the university for this tragedy.
for your argument to work, just think if every murder was treated as a potential rampage, because thats really what you are saying the uni should have done
metalhead wrote:for your argument to work, just think if every murder was treated as a potential rampage, because thats really what you are saying the uni should have done
well the U.S have been very good so far with that idea
peewee wrote:metalhead wrote:for your argument to work, just think if every murder was treated as a potential rampage, because thats really what you are saying the uni should have done
well the U.S have been very good so far with that idea
to be fair mate its not an everyday occurence, its not the first thing any policeman would think off. you would just look at this scene as a murder scene where the suspect has escaped from, and thats how you would deal with it, there was NO evidence to suggest that he would continue his act. like i say it wasnt continuous and NOBODY would forsee his next actions, how can you forsee someones next actions when you dont even know who that someone is.
in my opinion the university in this are blameless in not knowing the second shootings would happen, i think the guy himself didnt even know what he would do, hence the two hour delay where he then flipped, if it was his intention from the start he would have continued from the start, i am sure it wsnt 2 hours until he saw the next available target
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