Liverpool FC Forum

by **stmichael** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:12 pm

I think the reason he comes in for a lot of stick is that he's not a pure left winger as such ... and in that regard he's a coverted full back - and I think this colours peoples opinions of him.

He's a great player to have in the squad, and I'd put him ahead of Gonzalez for the left wing berth. People expect wingers to beat man, hug the white line and deliver a string of deadly crosses, noneof which is Riise's forte per se ... but as you said in the article he has a stunning left foot and scores goals. My main concern with him is that he is utterly predictable as a winger - in fact I'm still reeling at how Barca played him on Tuesday - have they never seen him play before?

by **Sabre** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:36 pm

He's a great player to have in the squad, and I'd put him ahead of Gonzalez for the left wing berth. People expect wingers to beat man, hug the white line and deliver a string of deadly crosses, noneof which is Riise's forte per se ... but as you said in the article he has a stunning left foot and scores goals. My main concern with him is that he is utterly predictable as a winger - in fact I'm still reeling at how Barca played him on Tuesday - have they never seen him play before?

Probably not. Answering back to Rafa who said who had seen a lot of Barcelona videos, Rijkaard said he also saw a "couple" of Liverpool matches, he might have missed Riise due to overrotation.

GOod point about him being a full back. Still I can't understand people's stick to him. I'd understand it in Spain, a country where skill and tricks are overrated. Or Japan, who make a football video game in which the most difficult things to do with the pad are bycicles, turn arounds, and other tricks. But I'm surprised people don't appreciate him more in England, a country where real football is appreciated.

The two Barcelona games have been yet another "exception" for all his slashers. People forget about the balance and versatility he provides. People forget that few managers play with 2 pure wingers this days, and one of them is an attacking one and the other more defensive. Riise played a lot of matches yesteryear when LG was playing on the right, to give balance to the other wing. He has made more decent and useful games that I can remember, but still, people do not appreciate him.

People just think that pressing in min 66 like Liverpool did is natural and easy. I remember in that game I had a Barcelona fan in messenger who told me "Don't expect Liverpool will be pressing like in the first half the whole match, it's impossible, we'll beat them in the second half". "Poor fool" I answered back.

Predictable? yes. Perhaps you can predict he won't surprise you with a dribling as his waist is made of iron, but you can predict aswell he'll be punishing your team in min 80 when all your team is tired. Every player has flaws. Every one. But I think some people insist on overlooking Riise's good things. He's strong and tireless like those trains of the XIX century.

by **Bad Bob** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:38 pm

stmichael wrote:I think the reason he comes in for a lot of stick is that he's not a pure left winger as such ... and in that regard he's a coverted full back - and I think this colours peoples opinions of him.

He's a great player to have in the squad, and I'd put him ahead of Gonzalez for the left wing berth. People expect wingers to beat man, hug the white line and deliver a string of deadly crosses, noneof which is Riise's forte per se ... but as you said in the article he has a stunning left foot and scores goals. My main concern with him is that he is utterly predictable as a winger - in fact I'm still reeling at how Barca played him on Tuesday - have they never seen him play before?

He'd be my choice at LM at the moment too for big matches. Yes, he has his limitations out wide and can be predictable. But, he's tireless, direct and capable of putting the ball in the net. In fact, these seem to be Gonzales qualities as well but the lad seems to lack the confidence to trouble defenders at the moment whereas Riise is willing to take them on. I'd give the Chilean a run of games against the weaker sides of the league while using Riise at LM in the CL and against Arsenal at the end of the month.

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:28 pm

Riise isn't quick enough to be a left winger but out of the options we have he is the best. Zenden, Gonzalez, Kewell, Aurellio all a waste of time. As for left back Riise was our best until we bought Arbeloa. I think Riise is still living on that goal against United. My main problem with Riise is anywhere between 50 yards and 6 yards of the goal Riise shoots. One out of every 20 flys in and the other 19 either just whistle wide or end up in row z or end up hitting the corner flag. I think now Riise is a good sqaud player but not a starter anymore.

by **orlandored** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:11 pm

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:Riise isn't quick enough to be a left winger but out of the options we have he is the best. Zenden, Gonzalez, Kewell, Aurellio all a waste of time. As for left back Riise was our best until we bought Arbeloa. I think Riise is still living on that goal against United. My main problem with Riise is anywhere between 50 yards and 6 yards of the goal Riise shoots. One out of every 20 flys in and the other 19 either just whistle wide or end up in row z or end up hitting the corner flag. I think now Riise is a good sqaud player but not a starter anymore.

Were it not the case that Riise had scored some blinders I reckon the knives would be out for him. He lacks the pace required in the Prem and his defending ability simply isnt up to scratch. Gillett must be thinking he's some sort of field goal merchant. Needs replacing in the summer deffo. Sergio Ramos would be ideal addition to the Spanish Mafia.

by **65-1173565005** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:13 pm

riise is the dog bollox, look at his thunderbolts and i aint just ytalking about his thighs.!!!

by **orlandored** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:20 pm

Amiga wrote:riise is the dog bollox, look at his thunderbolts and i aint just ytalking about his thighs.!!!

Amiga's consistent failed attempts to get off with girls during his years spent wagging school and bravely mocking grannies in town had seen his pointless lust turn to posters adorning the walls of his bedroom of athletic men. Still, better that than descend into a complete loser beyond hope, a tragic loner reduced to posting bile on websites, he thought.

by **65-1173565005** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:21 pm

orlandored wrote:
Amiga wrote:riise is the dog bollox, look at his thunderbolts and i aint just ytalking about his thighs.!!!

Amiga's consistent failed attempts to get off with girls during his years spent wagging school and bravely mocking grannies in town had seen his pointless lust turn to posters adorning the walls of his bedroom of athletic men. Still, better that than descend into a complete loser beyond hope, a tragic loner reduced to posting bile on websites, he thought.

Don't you like RIISE?

OOOHHH JONNY JOHNNY, JONNY, JOHNNY ARNE RIISE!!!
SIGN FOR US SIGN FOR UNITED!!!

by **orlandored** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:30 pm

Amiga wrote:
orlandored wrote:
Amiga wrote:riise is the dog bollox, look at his thunderbolts and i aint just ytalking about his thighs.!!!

Amiga's consistent failed attempts to get off with girls during his years spent wagging school and bravely mocking grannies in town had seen his pointless lust turn to posters adorning the walls of his bedroom of athletic men. Still, better that than descend into a complete loser beyond hope, a tragic loner reduced to posting bile on websites, he thought.

Don't you like RIISE?

OOOHHH JONNY JOHNNY, JONNY, JOHNNY ARNE RIISE!!!
SIGN FOR US SIGN FOR UNITED!!!

No matter how hard he tried, Amiga could not shake the image of that poster he'd seen in hmv while out getting a 'buzz' robbing chicken pasties from sayers...

by **maguskwt** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:55 pm

I can't understand why ppl here are criticising riise...even a man u fan wants to get him for his team...for me there's not even a debate...if i'm liverpool manager riise is the least of my worries...yes he may not be one of the best defenders but he's still above average...on top of that which left back can post such a threat to the opposition goal? virtually no one since roberto carlos...is ashley cole better than riise right now? I won't swap riise for cole. Did you guys forget how he scored volley goals from gerrard's crosses??? come on guys don't be fantasizing too much...you can't have a player who is great at both defense and attack...overall riise is great player and he can play both at left back and left wing... I won't hesitate to include him in my championship challenging first team...

by **106-1173536062** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:05 pm

maguskwt wrote:I can't understand why ppl here are criticising riise...even a man u fan wants to get him for his team...for me there's not even a debate...if i'm liverpool manager riise is the least of my worries...yes he may not be one of the best defenders but he's still above average...on top of that which left back can post such a threat to the opposition goal? virtually no one since roberto carlos...is ashley cole better than riise right now? I won't swap riise for cole. Did you guys forget how he scored volley goals from gerrard's crosses??? come on guys don't be fantasizing too much...you can't have a player who is great at both defense and attack...overall riise is great player and he can play both at left back and left wing... I won't hesitate to include him in my championship challenging first team...

yes but his primary role is to defend, and im afriad he isnt up to scratch in that department.

he needs shipping off in the summer, but more importantly we need a striker badly.

by **Scottbot** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:14 pm

orlandored wrote: Needs replacing in the summer deffo. Sergio Ramos would be ideal addition to the Spanish Mafia.

Give me a break. did you see Ramos playing at Leeds a couple of years back. He was shocking.

by **Scottbot** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:17 pm

god_bless_john_houlding wrote:I think Riise is still living on that goal against United.

Yeah that goal and the other 29 goals he has scored for the club.

by **JamCar05** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:53 pm

Sergio Ramos didn't play for Leeds mate... that was Raul Bravo, if I remember correctly (and yes - he was/is :censored:

). Ramos is a great prospect as a defender, as he is only about 20 years old. I believe he is right-sided and/or central defender though, so wouldn't change anything about our left side of the defence. That being said, I don't think Riise is nearly as bad, as some people make him out to be (not great either though.... somewhere in between)

by **Scottbot** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:14 pm

JamCar05 wrote:Sergio Ramos didn't play for Leeds mate... that was Raul Bravo, if I remember correctly (and yes - he was/is ). Ramos is a great prospect as a defender, as he is only about 20 years old. I believe he is right-sided and/or central defender though, so wouldn't change anything about our left side of the defence. That being said, I don't think Riise is nearly as bad, as some people make him out to be (not great either though.... somewhere in between)

Ooops my bad!!! Getting him mixed up although doesn't Bravo start on the left for Madrid?

Liverpool FC Forum

This riise debate - Lets see then.

Who is online