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by A.B. » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:35 pm
aCe' wrote:jeffiroquai wrote:A.B. wrote:aCe' wrote:why do we keep signing funny a.ss players ?!
id rather we went in for a big name to start instead of some guy who MIGHT make it as a squad player ! our starting lineup is more or less shiitty in many areas... why not get players we'll start instead of players we'll need to wait 5 years to see take on the pitch ?!
arsenal can do that... they have class players in almost every position except for their left back... a promising talent nonetheless !
2 million is sumthing.. and id rather we put it into a bid for a more established player instead !
thus far... id says rafa has been dissapointing in the transfer market since his arrival !
so many players he could and should have signed.... after that championsleague win...we should have signed a world class player or two... shame we didnt.. and look at the squad we have now !
dissapointing !
So you knew about Francesc Fabregas,Eboue,Philip Senderos and countless others when they were brought in by Wenger? Did you? Nobody did, and they were brought in for peanuts.
They're developing [Fabregas especially] into top players, but 4 years ago you sure as hell didn't know who the f#ck he was.
Some players turn out to be good some don't. It's also amusing how Benitez is getting stick because of the Youth Academy, and here he goes tries to buy a young player who was developed elsewhere [which is what Wenger has been doing for years] and he gets blasted for it.
I agree totally!!
Lets splash out a ton of money on the likes of Shevchenko, Ballack and Wright-Phillips.......oh wait, that didn't work out for another Prem club.
Filling the squad and reserves with these young players with upside will only strengthen Liverpool as a whole in the long run. It is very difficult to get big named players to plug into your squad during the winter transfer season. The ones you can get your hands on are playing overseas and it takes f@cking forever for them to settle in to the English game. We will not get anyone who will slot in to the team sheet against Watford, not to mention the next match against Chelski!
We need to formulate our best 11 we currently have and start throwing them out there every match!!
basically what ur saying is....
we wont win anything for say... the next 5-10 years ?!
bullsht ! get ur head outta ur a.sss mate .. we hav a shiiittyy squad in comparison to the top 3 .. signing shiitty youngsters will do us no good ! maybe in 5 years... not now tho !
and ur trying to compare wengers signings to rafa's ?!
rafa is a good manager... not as good in the market as wenger is tho... not in a million years !
1. We're in the top three, I don't know if you haven't noticed but Arsenal are below us and were below us last season for the entire season.
2. Wenger has been at Arsenal for ten years so he's had much more time to develop his academy and reserves. Rafa has only been here 2 and a half years and he's done more in that same period than either Wenger and Fergusson did.
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by jeffiroquai » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:35 pm
aCe' wrote:jeffiroquai wrote:A.B. wrote:aCe' wrote:why do we keep signing funny a.ss players ?!
id rather we went in for a big name to start instead of some guy who MIGHT make it as a squad player ! our starting lineup is more or less shiitty in many areas... why not get players we'll start instead of players we'll need to wait 5 years to see take on the pitch ?!
arsenal can do that... they have class players in almost every position except for their left back... a promising talent nonetheless !
2 million is sumthing.. and id rather we put it into a bid for a more established player instead !
thus far... id says rafa has been dissapointing in the transfer market since his arrival !
so many players he could and should have signed.... after that championsleague win...we should have signed a world class player or two... shame we didnt.. and look at the squad we have now !
dissapointing !
So you knew about Francesc Fabregas,Eboue,Philip Senderos and countless others when they were brought in by Wenger? Did you? Nobody did, and they were brought in for peanuts.
They're developing [Fabregas especially] into top players, but 4 years ago you sure as hell didn't know who the f#ck he was.
Some players turn out to be good some don't. It's also amusing how Benitez is getting stick because of the Youth Academy, and here he goes tries to buy a young player who was developed elsewhere [which is what Wenger has been doing for years] and he gets blasted for it.
I agree totally!!
Lets splash out a ton of money on the likes of Shevchenko, Ballack and Wright-Phillips.......oh wait, that didn't work out for another Prem club.
Filling the squad and reserves with these young players with upside will only strengthen Liverpool as a whole in the long run. It is very difficult to get big named players to plug into your squad during the winter transfer season. The ones you can get your hands on are playing overseas and it takes f@cking forever for them to settle in to the English game. We will not get anyone who will slot in to the team sheet against Watford, not to mention the next match against Chelski!
We need to formulate our best 11 we currently have and start throwing them out there every match!!
basically what ur saying is....
we wont win anything for say... the next 5-10 years ?!
bullsht ! get ur head outta ur a.sss mate .. we hav a shiiittyy squad in comparison to the top 3 .. signing shiitty youngsters will do us no good ! maybe in 5 years... not now tho !
and ur trying to compare wengers signings to rafa's ?!
rafa is a good manager... not as good in the market as wenger is tho... not in a million years !
Liverpool did not sign Robbie, Gerrard or Carra from another team did we you f@cking tw@t! They were developed as young talent.
Go support Chelski or Madrid so you can jerk off to your transfer season victories!
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by Bad Bob » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:36 pm
A.B. wrote:aCe' wrote:A.B. wrote:aCe' wrote:why do we keep signing funny a.ss players ?!
id rather we went in for a big name to start instead of some guy who MIGHT make it as a squad player ! our starting lineup is more or less shiitty in many areas... why not get players we'll start instead of players we'll need to wait 5 years to see take on the pitch ?!
arsenal can do that... they have class players in almost every position except for their left back... a promising talent nonetheless !
2 million is sumthing.. and id rather we put it into a bid for a more established player instead !
thus far... id says rafa has been dissapointing in the transfer market since his arrival !
so many players he could and should have signed.... after that championsleague win...we should have signed a world class player or two... shame we didnt.. and look at the squad we have now !
dissapointing !
So you knew about Francesc Fabregas,Eboue,Philip Senderos and countless others when they were brought in by Wenger? Did you? Nobody did, and they were brought in for peanuts.
They're developing [Fabregas especially] into top players, but 4 years ago you sure as hell didn't know who the f#ck he was.
Some players turn out to be good some don't.
oh... you and ur fcking shiitty posts...
you know nuthing about football buddy ... u go choke on a diick with all ur rafa a.ss kissing buddies...
pathetic is what you are... and
2) you dont like my posts dont fcking read them piece of sht !
Learn how to spell properly. Take a class somewhere, learn how to capitalize letters.
Now back to the topic at hand. As I already said, did you know who Fabregas was when Arsenal nicked him from Barcelona's youth academy?
Probably not, in fact I'm pretty sure you didn't. He was only 16 at the time and Arsenal have nicked another player from Barca's system and signed him in the summer [interestingly enough we were negotiating for him as well].
The same players you are praising from Arsenal's youth academy is the same players Benitez is trying to sign at a younger age. Yet you criticize him for it because they aren't ''big names''.
1. We don't have the funds to buy big names at the moment. That may soon change.
2. Big names don't guarantee success. Exhibit A: Andry Shevchenko, Exhibit B: Fernando Morientes, Exhibit C: Michael Ballack.
Case closed.
Jeez, mate, full marks...this gimp was so intimidated by your first reasoned response that all he could post in response was abusive rubbish and here you go and provide an even more level-headed, sensible response. What's he gonna come back with now? I'm guessing he'll slag off your mother and then go and play Champ Manager again. Trezeguet's the answer, you know? 

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by jeffiroquai » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:37 pm
Bad Bob wrote:A.B. wrote:aCe' wrote:A.B. wrote:aCe' wrote:why do we keep signing funny a.ss players ?!
id rather we went in for a big name to start instead of some guy who MIGHT make it as a squad player ! our starting lineup is more or less shiitty in many areas... why not get players we'll start instead of players we'll need to wait 5 years to see take on the pitch ?!
arsenal can do that... they have class players in almost every position except for their left back... a promising talent nonetheless !
2 million is sumthing.. and id rather we put it into a bid for a more established player instead !
thus far... id says rafa has been dissapointing in the transfer market since his arrival !
so many players he could and should have signed.... after that championsleague win...we should have signed a world class player or two... shame we didnt.. and look at the squad we have now !
dissapointing !
So you knew about Francesc Fabregas,Eboue,Philip Senderos and countless others when they were brought in by Wenger? Did you? Nobody did, and they were brought in for peanuts.
They're developing [Fabregas especially] into top players, but 4 years ago you sure as hell didn't know who the f#ck he was.
Some players turn out to be good some don't.
oh... you and ur fcking shiitty posts...
you know nuthing about football buddy ... u go choke on a diick with all ur rafa a.ss kissing buddies...
pathetic is what you are... and
2) you dont like my posts dont fcking read them piece of sht !
Learn how to spell properly. Take a class somewhere, learn how to capitalize letters.
Now back to the topic at hand. As I already said, did you know who Fabregas was when Arsenal nicked him from Barcelona's youth academy?
Probably not, in fact I'm pretty sure you didn't. He was only 16 at the time and Arsenal have nicked another player from Barca's system and signed him in the summer [interestingly enough we were negotiating for him as well].
The same players you are praising from Arsenal's youth academy is the same players Benitez is trying to sign at a younger age. Yet you criticize him for it because they aren't ''big names''.
1. We don't have the funds to buy big names at the moment. That may soon change.
2. Big names don't guarantee success. Exhibit A: Andry Shevchenko, Exhibit B: Fernando Morientes, Exhibit C: Michael Ballack.
Case closed.
Jeez, mate, full marks...this gimp was so intimidated by your first reasoned response that all he could post in response was abusive rubbish and here you go and provide an even more level-headed, sensible response. What's he gonna come back with now? I'm guessing he'll slag off your mother and then go and play Champ Manager again. Trezeguet's the answer, you know? 

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by A.B. » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:37 pm
Bad Bob wrote:A.B. wrote:aCe' wrote:A.B. wrote:aCe' wrote:why do we keep signing funny a.ss players ?!
id rather we went in for a big name to start instead of some guy who MIGHT make it as a squad player ! our starting lineup is more or less shiitty in many areas... why not get players we'll start instead of players we'll need to wait 5 years to see take on the pitch ?!
arsenal can do that... they have class players in almost every position except for their left back... a promising talent nonetheless !
2 million is sumthing.. and id rather we put it into a bid for a more established player instead !
thus far... id says rafa has been dissapointing in the transfer market since his arrival !
so many players he could and should have signed.... after that championsleague win...we should have signed a world class player or two... shame we didnt.. and look at the squad we have now !
dissapointing !
So you knew about Francesc Fabregas,Eboue,Philip Senderos and countless others when they were brought in by Wenger? Did you? Nobody did, and they were brought in for peanuts.
They're developing [Fabregas especially] into top players, but 4 years ago you sure as hell didn't know who the f#ck he was.
Some players turn out to be good some don't.
oh... you and ur fcking shiitty posts...
you know nuthing about football buddy ... u go choke on a diick with all ur rafa a.ss kissing buddies...
pathetic is what you are... and
2) you dont like my posts dont fcking read them piece of sht !
Learn how to spell properly. Take a class somewhere, learn how to capitalize letters.
Now back to the topic at hand. As I already said, did you know who Fabregas was when Arsenal nicked him from Barcelona's youth academy?
Probably not, in fact I'm pretty sure you didn't. He was only 16 at the time and Arsenal have nicked another player from Barca's system and signed him in the summer [interestingly enough we were negotiating for him as well].
The same players you are praising from Arsenal's youth academy is the same players Benitez is trying to sign at a younger age. Yet you criticize him for it because they aren't ''big names''.
1. We don't have the funds to buy big names at the moment. That may soon change.
2. Big names don't guarantee success. Exhibit A: Andry Shevchenko, Exhibit B: Fernando Morientes, Exhibit C: Michael Ballack.
Case closed.
Jeez, mate, full marks...this gimp was so intimidated by your first reasoned response that all he could post in response was abusive rubbish and here you go and provide an even more level-headed, sensible response. What's he gonna come back with now? I'm guessing he'll slag off your mother and then go and play Champ Manager again. Trezeguet's the answer, you know? 
Clearly I know nothing as I don't own Championship Manager.

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by woof woof ! » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:42 pm
A.B. wrote:woof woof ! wrote:Smack me if I sound paranoid BUT has Rafa's refusal to sign me down to the fact that i don't speak spanish ?
I had a similar problem with Houllier , ok I couldn't speak french either but wtf !
(many a true word spoken in jest etc etc etc , certainly want LFC to scour the world for talent but at the moment the ability to speak Rafa's language seems to give you a leg up

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He's signed a fair share of British youngsters as well.
For 1 million plus ?
Signing a player on the cheap means fk all , it's what you do with them that counts .
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by A.B. » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:45 pm
woof woof ! wrote:A.B. wrote:woof woof ! wrote:Smack me if I sound paranoid BUT has Rafa's refusal to sign me down to the fact that i don't speak spanish ?
I had a similar problem with Houllier , ok I couldn't speak french either but wtf !
(many a true word spoken in jest etc etc etc , certainly want LFC to scour the world for talent but at the moment the ability to speak Rafa's language seems to give you a leg up

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He's signed a fair share of British youngsters as well.
For 1 million plus ?
Signing a player on the cheap means fk all , it's what you do with them that counts .
I believe we payed a hefty amount for Scott Carson, or will eventually pay more due to appearance clauses. Not entirely sure about that
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by peterc1992 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:48 pm
can we please sign a high profile player,i never heard of this 
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by woof woof ! » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:56 pm
A.B. wrote:woof woof ! wrote:A.B. wrote:woof woof ! wrote:Smack me if I sound paranoid BUT has Rafa's refusal to sign me down to the fact that i don't speak spanish ?
I had a similar problem with Houllier , ok I couldn't speak french either but wtf !
(many a true word spoken in jest etc etc etc , certainly want LFC to scour the world for talent but at the moment the ability to speak Rafa's language seems to give you a leg up

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He's signed a fair share of British youngsters as well.
For 1 million plus ?
Signing a player on the cheap means fk all , it's what you do with them that counts .
I believe we payed a hefty amount for Scott Carson, or will eventually pay more due to appearance clauses. Not entirely sure about that
Yeah , AB , we've known each other a long time , surely you should know by now that as far as I'm concerned , what you believe and what you actually know are completely different animals .

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by A.B. » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:59 pm
peterc1992 wrote:can we please sign a high profile player,i never heard of this 
You want Shevchenko? Maybe Crespo? Perhaps David Beckham?
This is not CHAMPIONSHIP or FOOTBALL Manager, FFS.
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by metalhead » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:03 pm
A.B. wrote:peterc1992 wrote:can we please sign a high profile player,i never heard of this

This is not CHAMPIONSHIP or FOOTBALL Manager, FFS.
It would be nice if it was 
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