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by **romliv** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:53 pm

kop11 wrote:
nice thought but then they would just say it's only the carling cup BUT
acording to man united fans that was the greatest cup in britan last year???

and it's our last chance to win a title this season because we should not dream a lot in the champions league

by **Pineapple Nutty** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:00 pm

We all were so happy when Kuti scroed that goal! we thought we might of had a chance! thn henry had to ruin it all .. haha

but we tried and thats the best thing we could do .. but i know they all needed a bit more time! :;):

by **Scouse_legend** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:07 pm

dudek wat is he doing

we shouldnt of taken the risk of playing him becuae look wat he does :angry:

by **destro** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:12 pm

Hes not exactly my favourite player, but why all the abuse for crouch. in this game what exactly did he do wrong....fail to control countless long balls that most of the time were fired at him at chin height? did he fail to take any clear cut chances that (lets just say ) bellamy would of stuck away ? did he not pull out wide looking for the ball to feet, which believe it or not he is quite capable and comfortable at dealing with? he got the flick for kuyts goal but doesnt get recognition because it wasnt him that scored. there were many players ahead of crouch who are just as much to blame for the result yet he is always one of if not the first one people have a go at. dudek is another one, lets blame him because he doesnt play that regular so hes an easy target , why ? because he was beaten by either a sublime chip ( or miss hit cross , you decide ) or because he was unsighted and not expecting the shot for the second, or what about the third left helpless from 10 yards by one of the best finishers the world, who has embarrassed a lot better keepers from a hell of a lot further out .(anyone remember pepe against the bitters ). its all about ifs and buts, if only rafa had played bellamy ( would he of headed the ball towards the goal for kuyt ? ) was there any other chances that we created that you would of thought " if only bellamy was on the end of that " and to say he would of created his own or we would of played a different type of ball is easy after the game, he should of played gonzo, who has been slated as recently as the last game he played ? to much respect was shown out there today especially for henry (3 players marked him for the second goal even tho he was offside ! ) and let rosicky waltz through JC had a great game until the third goal, but its ok isnt it cos hes not crouch or dudek, stevie didnt set the game alight and walked away from rosicky for the first goal and left him unmarked !( i know others have picked up on that ) garcia , pennant , riise ( again i know hes been mentioned ) xabi for his ridiculous drogba impression. once again for me the only one to hold his head up high is kuyt but with a partner upfront who can do NO right , thats always going to be the case

by **Pineapple Nutty** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:15 pm

i love crouch ... he rocked this game!

gerrard i think should of tried better!

by **peterc1992** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:16 pm

bavlondon wrote:
peterc1992 wrote:nothing rong with reina,if there was he wouldne b on the bench,they just played dudek cos theyd give him a go,i loved dudek and his saves in istanbul but thats it what else has he done besides nock us out here and make stupid muves against man utd and let forlan,yes forlan,score too

not the state of the second atempt of third atempt of save ,

reina my number one i always thought dudek was better but after today ,get carson back and get rid of dudek

Istanbul Istanbul yes that was a great night but the fact is Dudek played out of his skin that night but if you take that match out of his career when has he realy played good? Hes a fuc.king liability.

mate wtf u talking about thats what im saying,i said istanbul was great but thats all he didmu sud read it then comment

by **aCe'** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:19 pm

okay... that was a reality check !

we are far behind ! we lack quality !

i know i sound like a cry baby.. but any other team with an opportunity like the one we had today would have beaten arsenal by 2 or more goals !

Why Dudek ahead of Reina... i willl never know ! Rafa thinks he too smart at times... bites him in the a.ss !

Arsenal have quality players who can put the ball past the keeper... we have craappy forwards who can pass the ball back to midfielders and cause no threat to defenders...

Many seem to think that Kuyt had a great game... i thought he was more or less :censored:

...
We ddnt need 4 Kuyts... we ddnt need 10 crouchs... we needed someone who can actually position themselves in the right spot and can actually make a decent attempt on goal !

Our strikers are by far the worst of all the big clubs in the country... they cant finish and work rate isnt what it takes to make a player a good striker !

Gerrard seemed to be in a league of his own playing alongside the likes of kuyt and Crouch and Riise and Dudek ! Absolute rubbish and not liverpool standard by any strech of the imagination !

2 reasons why we lost today :

1) Defensive errors (dudek included)
2) arsenal have better players

by **Bad Bob** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:28 pm

A tough result to take given that we dominated possession and created some decent chances. Once again, defensive errors put us behind and allowed Arsenal to play deep and break on the counter. In that situation it is very hard to carve out clear cut chances against an organized side. I did think, though, that the lads showed a lot more fight and verve chasing this game than they have for months when going behind. Little consolation, I know, but it's at least something positive to take from the game.

Dudek and Riise were undoubtedly poor. Why Rafa rested Reina for such an important match is beyond me. I hope he's carrying a knock or something because, if not, there's no defending the decision. Riise was okay until he failed to track Hleb properly after conceding possession in attack. Standing off Hleb gave him all the time he needed to pick out Rosicky. I thought that Garcia got into very useful positions but his touch was woeful today. Stevie, Carra and Agger all had sub-par games by their standards. But, I disagree with the "everyone was rubbish but Kuyt" remarks. I thought Crouch and Pennant had decent performances: Crouch held the ball up nicely and brought others into play, while Pennant had a lively game on the right. Finnan was his usual reliable self and I thought Alonso was very strong through the middle as well.

We controlled this game for long stretches but couldn't capitalize. Stupid errors and an inexplicable start for Dudek cost us the points, IMO. It's not doom and gloom for me yet but it stings to let our grip on the cup go so early. Bugger. :down:

by **aCe'** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:32 pm

destro wrote:Hes not exactly my favourite player, but why all the abuse for crouch. in this game what exactly did he do wrong....fail to control countless long balls that most of the time were fired at him at chin height? did he fail to take any clear cut chances that (lets just say ) bellamy would of stuck away ? did he not pull out wide looking for the ball to feet, which believe it or not he is quite capable and comfortable at dealing with? he got the flick for kuyts goal but doesnt get recognition because it wasnt him that scored. there were many players ahead of crouch who are just as much to blame for the result yet he is always one of if not the first one people have a go at. dudek is another one, lets blame him because he doesnt play that regular so hes an easy target , why ? because he was beaten by either a sublime chip ( or miss hit cross , you decide ) or because he was unsighted and not expecting the shot for the second, or what about the third left helpless from 10 yards by one of the best finishers the world, who has embarrassed a lot better keepers from a hell of a lot further out .(anyone remember pepe against the bitters ). its all about ifs and buts, if only rafa had played bellamy ( would he of headed the ball towards the goal for kuyt ? ) was there any other chances that we created that you would of thought " if only bellamy was on the end of that " and to say he would of created his own or we would of played a different type of ball is easy after the game, he should of played gonzo, who has been slated as recently as the last game he played ? to much respect was shown out there today especially for henry (3 players marked him for the second goal even tho he was offside ! ) and let rosicky waltz through JC had a great game until the third goal, but its ok isnt it cos hes not crouch or dudek, stevie didnt set the game alight and walked away from rosicky for the first goal and left him unmarked !( i know others have picked up on that ) garcia , pennant , riise ( again i know hes been mentioned ) xabi for his ridiculous drogba impression. once again for me the only one to hold his head up high is kuyt but with a partner upfront who can do NO right , thats always going to be the case

mate....i have no clue where it is you seem to be goin with this post but... agree with a few points- ( i guess ) :

- dudek is not a regular yet was thrown in this game against a strong opposition who -lets face it- were always going to be dangerous when going forward with players like Henry, V.Persie, Hleb and Rosicky ! rafa will have to take the blame for this one

- Crouch ddnt have that bad a game... its just his usual game except this time we were playing a stronger side.... hence his quality and ability fade in comparison... he looks shtty... not his fault !

- Carragher had a decent game but fcked up that last clearance ... lets face it ! where on earth was that equaliser coming from anyways ?! we werent attacking like we were supposed to... we were just hoofing the ball to the box trying to get Crouchie to head it on target... but lets face it... Crouch isnt the best header in the world and Arsenal werent sitting that deep for us to expect any deflection to lead to a goal !

- x.alonso had a bad game... riise left the left side exposed in the first half ... Garcia lost the ball too often and should have been subbed but bummer ! we dont have any good subs to come on for him ! gonzales my a.ss !

we ddnt deserve to win.. so we lost... hope we improve but... how much can we improve ! not being too harsh.. not being an as.shole but... lets face it ... we cant beat the big sides.. not at home.. not away... we are in deep :censored:

and i dont see us winning any silverwear this season ! Carling cup doesnt count unless ur a manutd fan !

by **aCe'** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:42 pm

gerrard was our best player out there... he was the only player who could take a couple of touches and there you had it... a scoring opportunity...or a wide player with space to roam... he takes liveprool to the next level ! we need more players of his caliber ! player who can actually play football and not just run around and work hard and make random crosses ! CREATIVITY is a MUST in todays game !
we lack flair at times... we lack positive attacking footballl..
Hleb is a great player...rosicky is a great player... i dont see not one player in liverpool whos better at going forward than these two... and guess what... they are not automatic picks in arsenal.. you get the picture !

todays game sums up our season so far brilliantly if you ask me !

by **destro** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:47 pm

aCe' wrote:
destro wrote:Hes not exactly my favourite player, but why all the abuse for crouch. in this game what exactly did he do wrong....fail to control countless long balls that most of the time were fired at him at chin height? did he fail to take any clear cut chances that (lets just say ) bellamy would of stuck away ? did he not pull out wide looking for the ball to feet, which believe it or not he is quite capable and comfortable at dealing with? he got the flick for kuyts goal but doesnt get recognition because it wasnt him that scored. there were many players ahead of crouch who are just as much to blame for the result yet he is always one of if not the first one people have a go at. dudek is another one, lets blame him because he doesnt play that regular so hes an easy target , why ? because he was beaten by either a sublime chip ( or miss hit cross , you decide ) or because he was unsighted and not expecting the shot for the second, or what about the third left helpless from 10 yards by one of the best finishers the world, who has embarrassed a lot better keepers from a hell of a lot further out .(anyone remember pepe against the bitters ). its all about ifs and buts, if only rafa had played bellamy ( would he of headed the ball towards the goal for kuyt ? ) was there any other chances that we created that you would of thought " if only bellamy was on the end of that " and to say he would of created his own or we would of played a different type of ball is easy after the game, he should of played gonzo, who has been slated as recently as the last game he played ? to much respect was shown out there today especially for henry (3 players marked him for the second goal even tho he was offside ! ) and let rosicky waltz through JC had a great game until the third goal, but its ok isnt it cos hes not crouch or dudek, stevie didnt set the game alight and walked away from rosicky for the first goal and left him unmarked !( i know others have picked up on that ) garcia , pennant , riise ( again i know hes been mentioned ) xabi for his ridiculous drogba impression. once again for me the only one to hold his head up high is kuyt but with a partner upfront who can do NO right , thats always going to be the case

mate....i have no clue where it is you seem to be goin with this post but... agree with a few points- ( i guess ) :

- dudek is not a regular yet was thrown in this game against a strong opposition who -lets face it- were always going to be dangerous when going forward with players like Henry, V.Persie, Hleb and Rosicky ! rafa will have to take the blame for this one

- Crouch ddnt have that bad a game... its just his usual game except this time we were playing a stronger side.... hence his quality and ability fade in comparison... he looks shtty... not his fault !

- Carragher had a decent game but fcked up that last clearance ... lets face it ! where on earth was that equaliser coming from anyways ?! we werent attacking like we were supposed to... we were just hoofing the ball to the box trying to get Crouchie to head it on target... but lets face it... Crouch isnt the best header in the world and Arsenal werent sitting that deep for us to expect any deflection to lead to a goal !

- x.alonso had a bad game... riise left the left side exposed in the first half ... Garcia lost the ball too often and should have been subbed but bummer ! we dont have any good subs to come on for him ! gonzales my a.ss !

we ddnt deserve to win.. so we lost... hope we improve but... how much can we improve ! not being too harsh.. not being an as.shole but... lets face it ... we cant beat the big sides.. not at home.. not away... we are in deep and i dont see us winning any silverwear this season ! Carling cup doesnt count unless ur a manutd fan !

The reason for the post and "where i was going" is that all the early posts were for crouch to be replaced, why ? if we all know that heading isnt his strong point but we continue to fire long/high balls up to him. then why call for him to be replaced after 20mins or so. if we did the same to bellamy instead of using his pace we wouldnt be crying for him to be replaced by crouch would we ? i agree dudek shouldnt of been thrown into a game like that, but no one can say that pepe or carson would of saved any of the goals either, but im sure they wouldnt of been slated the way dudek has. all in all im saying dont look for 1 0r 2 scapegoats as the reason we lost when there was 11 of them out there. lets not forget they had their second choice keeper amnesia or whatever hes called playing for them, the difference due to the way they deffended and our inablity to make any chances is that we didnt test him

by **aCe'** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:53 pm

it wasnt all down to the way they defended !

seriously... ud be one ignorant fool to say that... no offense whatsoever mate !

we ddnt creat any clear cut chances... we ddnt test the fcking baastard !

all we did was pass the ball in their half for some time... concede 2 goals then start throwing balls in the air for crouch to fetch !

just read the last bit.... hehe.. sorry... too pissd to read the post all the way through
sums up our game !

by **The Manhattan Project** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:16 pm

Disappointing result. It's a shame we had to go down 0-2 before we started to play. Too late by then. We gave Rosicky far too much space. For the second goal he scored we were just backing away too much. Dudek could have done a little better too.

The biggest story though I think was the first six minutes of that match.

by **peterc1992** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:22 pm

i thouhg it was unfair on dudek droping him after istanbul,but i have now noticed that he has lost it and reina is the better of the too

by **Pedro O'Maradona** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:27 pm

aCe' wrote:gerrard was our best player out there... he was the only player who could take a couple of touches and there you had it... a scoring opportunity...or a wide player with space to roam... he takes liveprool to the next level ! we need more players of his caliber ! player who can actually play football and not just run around and work hard and make random crosses ! CREATIVITY is a MUST in todays game !
we lack flair at times... we lack positive attacking footballl..
Hleb is a great player...rosicky is a great player... i dont see not one player in liverpool whos better at going forward than these two... and guess what... they are not automatic picks in arsenal.. you get the picture !

todays game sums up our season so far brilliantly if you ask me !

hleb is a great player?

? are you off your head?

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