dawson99 wrote:Ashton, anelka, bullard?
some people just dont know when to be quiet. gonzales is gonna take time to bed in, we can see what he can do, the same with Aurelio if you ask me.
How bullard gets into our team ahead of momo i will never know!!!
And bellamy and kuyt have been playing fine if you ask me as well. Of course it would be nice to have someone like Ashton and maybe anelka would stay at least 3 months before starting one of his sulks.
how you think you could get ashton for 8 million is a good one tho, get that as ajoke in one of the xmas crackers?
What we need is hunger, desire, a quickening of pace and it will all work out. Add to that the fantasic performances of keepers against us and i think you'll see what a team we have.
fowler doesnt get a look in because hes a chubby old guy now. No offence to god as we all like to call him but he was never gonna be a first choice in the team, he knew it, we knew it. He will take up a coaching role next season no doubt.
Crouch was in for kuyt the same way that ferguson didnt start rooney or ronaldo, wenger is resting players, all the managers are. Even maureen is startnig to see some gaps in his team with all the games. We rest players against the so called lesser sides, and those are the games when the so called lesser sides raise their games....
we have had some gawd awful luck as well
redmikey wrote:bullard instead of momo ?
speedy not a lfc player and pennat is?
there are some people that always shout for the in form people to be snapped up this instant, barton ,swp,yakubu,ashton,bent, etc etc the only way to build a world class squad is to have world class players and rafa is trying to do that on a budjet at the moment but has still pulled out some top buys, xabi,momo,pepe
i think you have made some middle of the road points but i can't see why?
dawson99 wrote:Exactly, we leave fowler out. Why is that?
do you think it might have something to do with the fact that Rafa knows just a little bit more about the team than you do?
I agree with most of what you say. Crouch isnt good enough, but also quite a bit of what you say is tedious, arrogantly written and poorly thought out.
"well IVE seen this and IVE seen that" Do you really think we care? And do you really think that your input is that much mroe valid than ours? Yes bullard is a good player. Isnt there a chance he will never play again tho? and you would rather him than momo? You dont really support liverpool do you?
so dont call me pathetic then talk about what YOUVE seen. Weve all seen things. ive seen norden wooter and ive seen chris sutton. Ive seen Mendietta when he was at Valencia and ive seen barnes many many times. I dont ramble on about it though.
Fowler is not starting because Rafa is not playing him. and rafa knows considerabbly more about football than you will ever know.
As for tact, i think mel gibson at a bar mitzvah when drunk is politer than you.
dawson99 wrote:its about more than money and individuals, its about how the team works, and rafa made his choices
peterc1992 wrote: ,momo is and will be one of the best defensive midfielders in the english game and he is a brilliant signing,i wouldnt play him instead of bullard,i dont like anelka because,hes greedy,but good and crouch is a good player along with bellamy and gonzalez is quick and is a bit unexpierienced but in a few years hel be a mighty player,
STR_18+5 wrote:,Firstly before any numbnutz says is this a Rafa out thread no it is not. The mans a living legend and I love him to peices for whats he's done so far. He's also tactically extremely clever and potentially a world class manager...
He has however up this season and NEEDS to have a look at himself and the things he's done and learn from it.
An absoloutely awful first half to the season. Quite simple really...
Poor management, poor team selections, poor signings and a little bit of bad luck aswell.
Firstly the "bad luck". I'm not a fan of this excuse at all. But missing Kewell and Sissoko for long periods has caused us massive problems this season. Especially Kewell's absence. Kewell was excellent at times last season and held the ball up aswell as using the ball intelligently he helped out defensively and gave us good balance. We've missed that this season. Sissoko's loss hasn't been as important for me, however its still not allowed us to place out a tried and trusted midfield.
Secondly the team selections. A blind man can see that Liverpool have been playing BETTER (not good) football in the previous weeks so why change is again? Why does Rafa feel the need to fix something that isn't broken? I like rotation, i think it works. The pace the games played at these days you HAVE to rotate but you don't drop an on form player or your best player unless you have equal quality to replace them. Rafa often goes on about percentages and how its important that players are at 100%. Often the case but not always, you lose percentages when teams arent settled just as much as you do from rotation, you lose that telapathy, you lose confidence in players knowing that no matter how they play they could be on the bench the week after... Also, why has the defence changed so much last season? We were outstanding at the back this year, we've been very average so far. Agger has shown promise but thats all. He's not at Sami's level yet and we miss Hyypia when he doesn't play alot. The best back four is the one that played last season.
Poor management comes under the tactics and team selections. Crouch in for Kuyt at the weekend? Why? Playing out and out wingers who like a cross when theres two forwards who can't head a ball to save there life in there? Why? Playing a 3 man midfield? Why? Taking strikers off when you're losing? Why? Not playing your best goalscorer and one of your best players? Why?
The signings over the years...
Aurelio - Seems excellent technically but poor physically. He doesn't seem to have the mentallity either nor the tactical quality to play in defence...
Gonzalez - Quite simply not good enough and never a Liverpool player. Has shown glimpses of quality occassionally but never had a good 90 minutes.
Kuyt - I like, a decent player, but not good enough to be our main striker. He's a decent finisher not a great one and he's awful in the air. His ability to attack a moving ball and anticipate something in the box isn't great either. He's fairly strong and the ball does stick alot of the time with him but it should stick more than it does.
Pennant - Has shown glimpses but in general looks petrified to play at the minute. Looks like he knows this is his last chance and has no belief in his play. Simply isn't showing what he's capable of. Also, the point in him playing with Bellamy and Kuyt is what exactly? Pennant's a good crosser, Fowler attacks the ball as he shown against Galatasary, Kuyt and Bellamy don't. The aren't going to score goals from crosses. Feel sorry for the lad at the minute.
Crouch - Why did we pay £7million when Ashton went for 7million to West Ham? Crouch has better dribbling ability than Ashton, Ashton pisses all over him at EVERYTHING else bar height.
Bellamy - £6million. A good player, definately. Like him, got him for his value. First choice though? Do me a fucking favour. We're used to Owen's, Fowler's, Rush's...
The ones that got away...
Ashton £7m, self explanatory. Better than all of our strikers. Better finisher than them all, more of a goalscorer than them all and can play with his back to goal better than them all.
Anelka £8m, pace and quality personified. Excellent player. Him and Ashton would have been a hell of a partnership. Pace, power, intelligence, goals, strength, arial ability, poaching and Anelka even runs the channels.
Bullard £2m, a bit of quality on the ball in the attacking third. Will make a pass, take an extra touch, make a decoy run, will try and play a one two, can dicate the play in the opponents half of the pitch aswell as covering more ground than nearly every player in the league. A workhorse with quality at a bargain price.
Ashton Anelka
Kewell Gerrard
Alonso Bullard
Riise Hyypia Carragher Finnan
Reina
Would have been nice... Still...
We lack quality individuals. Fowler is still an excellent player and never gets a look in and certain players we have aren't as good as made out. Its as simple as that.
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