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Postby 83-1165214211 » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:04 pm

aCe' wrote:
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aCe' wrote:
Crouchamania wrote:The thing about Riise is no matter what his form is like all he has 2 do is score 1 of his specials and he'll be a fan favourite again 4 a while. Lampard scores a lot of long range goals (ok granted many of them free kicks) and we call him overrated (rightly so as well) but is Riise any different? My point is apart from his fierce shot what does he have?

well... besides his long range efforts....riise doesnt have much going for him ! his defensive game improved alot in recent years but is still some way short of what is expected at this level . His crossing is below par to say the least and to me, his creativity while on the ball is what has let him down the most... compare Riise while on the ball to A.Cole or P.Evra or R.Carlos or Zambrotta to see what i mean.

And Lampard is a great footballer imo !
top level creativity and vision while on the ball.
His shooting from long range is absolutely brilliant... his technique on the shot is what is so good about his shots..
quite honestly... his shooting is only one of many great attributes of his ! top class footballer !

Riise's a good player.

He's decent to good at everything excelling in stamina, shooting and movement off the ball. Also his energy and willingness to run is excellent.

He's not a great player, he's a decent one... but certainly isn't as bad as what the dickheads in this thread have made him out to be.

As for you thinking Lampards "top class" thats just laughable. Lampards a good player playing to his strengths in a team with alot of excellent players.

Lampards not better than the likes of Cahill, Barton, Osman, Bullard... Not a bad player, but nothing like what he's made out to be.

Anyone who says Riiise is goood enough for Liverpool have different expectations then me.   If I want to see our left back hooof the ball up the field or more often than out into the satnds, then ill go to buckley hill to watch sunday league.

He is, and has been rubbish for along time.  Rubbish is harsh cause he would probably walk into most mid table premiership teams.  Hes been the weakest link for a long time.  An as for them people who say hes got good energy levels, :censored: me lets go down the local cross country club and get them signed up.

Also if you dont think Lampard is class I think you must be watching a totally different player than me.  Gerrards better of course but that goes without saying as hes ours.

Riise is no worse than Finnan.

Finnan isn't as quick as Riise or as strong or aggressive. He's also not as good at winning headers, not as athletic and not as positive as Riise.

While Finnan is consistent he's never going to do something in a match that will win you a game. Riise has done on many occassions.

As for Lampard being class You're watching a different player to everyone else who has a clue about the game.

You're watching the overhyped player who is everywhere an wins every tackle and play makes all game long and completely bosses games against good sides and scores all these marvelous non deflected goals.

I watch the one who always shoots when theres a pass on to someone in a better position, i watch the one who tried to tackle Zidane and Vieira and fell on his :censored:, I watch the one who gets completely outplayed by Gerrard, Alonso, Scholes, Carrick, Barton, Sissoko and even :censored: Zenden. Also the one who positionally struggles against players with intelligence. I watch the one who is very average physically and poor defensively...

What a player. :laugh:

:D  :D  :D

you are clueless and talk a whole lot of SHiiit !

I talk :censored: do I?

:D

This coming from some little know nothing blurt who doesn't know anything about the game. I think you need to look back over the forum over the years to see who talks :censored: you gimp.

"Lampards world class".... "you talk :censored:"....

That has the most comical double statement ever made on any football forum ever... :laugh:

World class at what?

Long distance shooting? You mean like his deflected shots and all those shots at the world cup that ended up in the goalkeepers arms...

You mean like his passing which isn't a patch on Alonso, Veron or Beckham, or even Redknapp in his day?

You mean like his tackling ability? :D

Or are you on about his vision that you go on about? Hahahahaha.

The lads a decent alround player who's a GOOD passer and has GOOD ability to say he's world class is absoloutely unreal.

He can't do anything at all in the game to a world class standard. Let alone a number of things. Gerrard is better in EVERY SINGLE aspect of the game and Gerrard has faults.

Infact, you're posts clearly a wind up and a joke, i don't even know why i'm bothering to reply to idiotic morons from down south who read the papers to much. Its a :censored: discrace.
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Postby jonnymac1979 » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:25 pm

Keep this fucking nice lads.  Some good arguments being said here, but leave the "you know fuck all" stuff out okay?  It appears people can't agree to disagree sometimes without verbals being thrown about. 

Just take it easy okay before we get off-topic?
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Postby aCe' » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:45 pm

hahahahaha !

:;): merry christmas !
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:30 am

I noticed the topic has recently popped up after his "so-called" bad performance against the Hornets. In that case this topic/thread will pop up every ten games or so, with the ' Did you see Riise today, he was s.*i*e.' We may aswell make up a thread for every player in that case, because whether or not you rate him as a player or any of his team mates their bound to have a few stinkers a season. He isnt as bad as most people are making out IMO and is usually one of our more consistent performers, personally I thought Carragher had a worse game than Riise.
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:36 am

I think lampard is a world class player, and anyone who thinks otherwise is mistaken.


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The quote of Boxing day, Lampard is world class .......... do me a favour!
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Postby Ace Ventura » Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:23 am

Although this is supposed to be a thread about Riise, (who i a m starting to agree with murph an and leon)
Anyone who thinks Lampard is world class really does puzzle me.

In what way for a centre midfielder is he world class ?

His passing is decent his tackling not the best...his pace none existent.
Yes he scores goals but if any midfielder had as many shots as him and someone doing all the donkey work then so would they.
He does have a decent shot with both feet but he is the most selfish player i have come accross. The amount of times he shoots from stupid positions when he hasteam mates making decent runs is a disgrace.
One of the most over rated players in world football that lad is.
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Postby murphy0151 » Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:56 am

I think you all think I want Riise to play shitiiiite just so I can come on here and go there you go again I told you so.   You so wrong, im going to get the coach in a min and ill be there singin ghis name wanting him to do well.

Johhhhhnnnnn ARnnnnnnnieeeee Riiiiiiiiissssssssse Ohhhhhhh Ahhhhhhh I want to knowwwww w w w w  how your in our team.  Only messing lads lets hammer these Lancastrian ale house team.  A late Riiise winner just so i can come on ere and eat some humble pie till next week.
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Postby murphy0151 » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:40 pm

shocking again
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Postby davo_LFC » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:58 pm

Yer i agree everytime he gets it he just tw.ats it up the pitch like hes playing for a sunday leagure team and his defending has been shocking of late. I'd give aurielo(spell) a go in the left back position now because he offers alot more going forward and his defending cant be any worse than what riise's has been for the last few games.

I like riise but hes proving to be a liability at the moment, maybe he needs a few splinters in his ar.se from the bench to kick him into some kind of form.
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Postby coddy » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:59 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:Although this is supposed to be a thread about Riise, (who i a m starting to agree with murph an and leon)
Anyone who thinks Lampard is world class really does puzzle me.

In what way for a centre midfielder is he world class ?

His passing is decent his tackling not the best...his pace none existent.
Yes he scores goals but if any midfielder had as many shots as him and someone doing all the donkey work then so would they.
He does have a decent shot with both feet but he is the most selfish player i have come accross. The amount of times he shoots from stupid positions when he hasteam mates making decent runs is a disgrace.
One of the most over rated players in world football that lad is.

another thing, 80% of his goals are by way of deflection anyway.
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Postby aCe' » Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:04 pm

coddy wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:Although this is supposed to be a thread about Riise, (who i a m starting to agree with murph an and leon)
Anyone who thinks Lampard is world class really does puzzle me.

In what way for a centre midfielder is he world class ?

His passing is decent his tackling not the best...his pace none existent.
Yes he scores goals but if any midfielder had as many shots as him and someone doing all the donkey work then so would they.
He does have a decent shot with both feet but he is the most selfish player i have come accross. The amount of times he shoots from stupid positions when he hasteam mates making decent runs is a disgrace.
One of the most over rated players in world football that lad is.

another thing, 80% of his goals are by way of deflection anyway.

no questioning his shooting mate... but everything else is bad getting worse by the day...

i agree with giving aurelio a go !

he seems a player with tons of ability ... i think we need to give him a chance to play in his position and stop throwing him in the left wing slot...
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Postby Effes » Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:07 pm

Riise's best position is left-mid.

He's never bee a great left back - he's going thru a bad patch... BUT WE HAVE WORSE PLAYERS WHOM WE NEED TO GET RID BEFORE RIISE.
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Postby Rafa D » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:45 pm

John Arne Riise wrote: I am not shocking - I played ok against the gunners and Rafa was wrong to sub me


Ginger, you were well shit!

- In all seriousness, Riise was awful against Hleb. Lacked a lot defensively.
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Postby Liverpool4Life » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:00 am

Effes wrote:Riise's best position is left-mid.

He's never bee a great left back - he's going thru a bad patch... BUT WE HAVE WORSE PLAYERS WHOM WE NEED TO GET RID BEFORE RIISE.

I agree with this. :pirate  :rasp
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Postby scouser 'til I die » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:02 pm

I think we should drop Riise and give Aurellio a chance. This will be good for Aurellio's game because he can improve which he seems to have done since appearing on the scene at Liverpool, and will give Riise time to reflect on this game and will determinate him to improve his defensive ability which is lacking at the moment. I'm not saying Riise is shi te but in doing this it may  benefit all around for both players. Aurellio needs games and Riise needs improvement defensively and dropping Riise and bringing in Aurellio will do this.
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