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by **Bad Bob** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:24 pm

A.B. wrote:
BarryBelfast wrote:
alessandromagno wrote:Perhaps a little disturbing that all our young talent seems to be taken from abroad rather than developed at home.

You do my fuc.kin tits in!

Every single one of your posts is either a moan,whinge or something negative about LFC!

You never post anything merely positive or even seem to like anything about Liverpool FC...you yap about the manager,about the players and now your fu.cking disturbed cause we are signing young foriegn talent!

Do yourself a favour and go and support a team that will actually give you something to smile about!

Well in

Yer, I'm applauding that as well, Barry. This guy has been doing my head in for weeks with his constant carping and clueless comments. I'm all for different points of view but, feck me, this muppet's a broken record and the tune gets on my t!ts. :kungfu:

by **alessandromagno** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:03 pm

Maybe for some of you your appreciation of LFC begins with Rafa or Houllier. Personally I am perhaps more discriminating as I have supported the Reds for 35 years and am from Kirkby down the road. I remember the growth days under Shankly when for a long time we were second in the city to Everton. I remember the championships won under Shanks, the first FA Cup win against Leeds, the disappointment of losing at Wembley to Arsenal when Heighway--now in charge of the youth team scored a great angled goal from the left wing only for us to eventually lose to Arsenal 2-1. I remember the glory days after Shanks retired and handed over the reins to Paisley, the glory of 4 European Cups and the deep sadness of Heysel and Hillsborough.

I think I've earned the right to critcise and a board like this really makes little sense if all the posts only talk of sweetness and light. Like the director who resigned, I don't see that Rafa's summer acquisitions have improved our results or style of play. I also don't feel he gave Cisse or Pongolle much of a chance and his present treatment of Fowler is also baffling--and I have a right to say those things. Finally, I expect to still be red at heart long after Rafa has left the city.

by **kop11** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:06 pm

argintines always seem to settle well in the english league!! hopefully he will be a good prospect for the future!

by **Bad Bob** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:45 pm

alessandromagno wrote:Maybe for some of you your appreciation of LFC begins with Rafa or Houllier. Personally I am perhaps more discriminating as I have supported the Reds for 35 years and am from Kirkby down the road. I remember the growth days under Shankly when for a long time we were second in the city to Everton. I remember the championships won under Shanks, the first FA Cup win against Leeds, the disappointment of losing at Wembley to Arsenal when Heighway--now in charge of the youth team scored a great angled goal from the left wing only for us to eventually lose to Arsenal 2-1. I remember the glory days after Shanks retired and handed over the reins to Paisley, the glory of 4 European Cups and the deep sadness of Heysel and Hillsborough.

I think I've earned the right to critcise and a board like this really makes little sense if all the posts only talk of sweetness and light. Like the director who resigned, I don't see that Rafa's summer acquisitions have improved our results or style of play. I also don't feel he gave Cisse or Pongolle much of a chance and his present treatment of Fowler is also baffling--and I have a right to say those things. Finally, I expect to still be red at heart long after Rafa has left the city.

See, this is more like it...you actually explain your point of view rather than plonk in single-sentence posts in every thread you visit.

For the record, I've got no trouble with members on this board who express their disappointment at our current form. I've even got no trouble with the few of you--and, yes, I sense you're in this camp--that don't think Rafa's up to the task and hope he moves on in the near future. I totally, 100% disagree, but that's part of what makes the exchanges on here interesting. What isn't interesting is coming on here each day and reading rubbish one-liners about how stupid it was to sell Hamann (who chose to leave, BTW) and loan out Cisse.

You have earned the right to criticize but put some thought into it, FFS--someone with your experience supporting the club must have so much more to offer this place than what you've been contributing.

by **Rafa D** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:25 pm

Bad Bob wrote:You have earned the right to criticize but put some thought into it, FFS--someone with your experience supporting the club must have so much more to offer this place than what you've been contributing.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:46 pm

Got to be said - just because you've seen it all, it doesn't mean you've understood it.

by **alessandromagno** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:51 pm

Well, again we differ. Didi wanted and expected to stay. He was surprised when Rafa took him into his office and told him there would be little chance for him this year. I'm sure he would have been happy to stay otherwise. I'm certain he could have got plenty of games even if Momo hadn't got injured. As it is, of course, he was injured. I think it's fairly clear we needed cover for Momo--but Rafa didn't agree. Basically, he's got rid of most of Houllier's people for one reason or another. Personally, I was sorry to see Danny Murphy one of our own, shown the door too.

As for short posts--sorry, I don't have that much time usually. I expect most of the people here to be able to fill in the background.

by **alessandromagno** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:52 pm

No it doesn't Lando. And just because you shout very loud, it doesn't mean you've understood it either.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:58 pm

How can I shout when writing?

Stop talking out of your a*sehole.

Didi decided to leave. Rafa was honest with him, and said something along the lines of "we'd like you to stay, but we'll understand if you don't want to".

It was Didi's choice to leave, no matter how much you want to disagree.

Anderson, Hobbs, Martin and Carson are all young English talent bought by Rafa.

Once again - you don't know (or understand) what you are talking about.

by **alessandromagno** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:07 am

Why are you editing all your posts, Lando? You should understand that however, loud you shout (and I get clearly that you're a shouting kind of person) or throw out your insults, not everyone is going to agree with you. You think the sun shines out of Rafa's :censored:

and that Gerrard is a spoilt brat. Fine. We all get your point of view. However, I would certainly see Gerrard as being more important in the long term for Liverpool football club than Rafa who is from Madrid. Where are you from anyhow Lando?

I don't even bother responding to your pompous nonsense about Rafa and Didi.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:24 am

alessandromagno wrote:Why are you editing all your posts, Lando? You should understand that however, loud you shout (and I get clearly that you're a shouting kind of person) or throw out your insults, not everyone is going to agree with you. You think the sun shines out of Rafa's and that Gerrard is a spoilt brat. Fine. We all get your point of view. However, I would certainly see Gerrard as being more important in the long term for Liverpool football club than Rafa who is from Madrid. Where are you from anyhow Lando?

I don't even bother responding to your pompous nonsense about Rafa and Didi.

I edit the posts because I type without looking at the screen, post, then re-read. If I've made a mistake - I rectify it. OK? Do I have your permission for that?

Anyone who thinks a player who sulks at the slightest thing is more important to the club than a manager like Rafa (who is building the best Liverpool team for over 20 years) is simply uneducated.

I get what your problem is, Alessandro:

You're a "This is MY town, so I must know better" kind of guy. A bit of a geographical bigot.

"Steven Gerrard used to go to the same school as me, ...blah, blah, blah". (Or in your case, yourGreat great Grandson, to listen to you ramble on.)

Well you know what, Alessandro? You're wrong. You are so wrong, infact, that it's pathetic.

You're basically saying that the place you are born decides how much authority you've got over a multi-national institution. By your logic, how do you feel about Dalglish, Souness, Molby, etc? They weren't from LFC, but the fact remains that they bettered the club.
How about Shankly himself? "A Scot!?! Running MY club!?!"

You sad c*nt.

Listen up, old-timer:

Rafa Benitez is the best thing that has happened to OUR (Not "your") club for over 2 decades.

A player who has held the club to ransom, and who has more alleigance to his Sh*tski and Manc-scum bedmates "JT", "Frank", Gary Neville" and "Rio b*starding Ferdinand" than LFC can go and f*ck himself up the sh*tter with a foot-long staff, for all I care.

You short-sighted f*cking bafoon.

by **alessandromagno** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:37 am

I'm afraid it's more of the same garbage. You are clearly a person who wants to always be right and to be the only one that's right. From all your huffing and puffing I assume that you are not even from Liverpool but simply jumped on the bandwagon because the team from your own town wasn't doing well enough.

It's clear that you are a pompous bigot Lando and if you ever do go to Liverpool I advise you to fix your manners first, because the people can sometimes be rather intolerant of those like you who like to throw names and insults around (or do you only do that on here my friend?)

Bottom line is that you should get a life instead of insisting on always getting the last word here.

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:54 am

I find it strange that you call Lando a bigot whilst decrying the lack of English talent, and intimating that anyone who lives in or around Liverpool somehow has a moral superiority to the rest of the World when it comes to supporting our club.

I dont think references to where someone comes from have much to do with supporting Liverpool.

BTW I have supported Liverpool for 40 years, does this mean I am a better supporter than most ? Or does it just mean I am older and not necessarily wiser.

by **alessandromagno** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:00 am

You don't need to be from Liverpool to support the club--though I would think that's where the hard core support comes from. However, DO REFRAIN FROM INSULTING OTHER FANS. We all have our point of view and sometimes they may be at odds. All the same, none of us expect to be brow beaten or to have the more colourful Anglo-Saxon epithets directed at us for our opinion by a moron like Lando.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:16 am

Look - I have never hidden the fact that I am not from Liverpool.

I support the club through my own choice. My dad is a fan, and has been no doubt since before you were even a glint in the Milkman's eye, but my family don't believe in brain-washing their kids.

I never liked football until i watched LFC. They were the first team I ever saw live, and I go to as many games as is possible - Dalglish, Wooly and Leon can varify that as I have met them all. (Albeit Leon was more an "Ay up" than a conversation.)

It's not about my needing to be right - it's about your habit of talking absolute cr*p.

Just as it is your right to have an opinion, it is my right to call your opinion total b*llocks. (As that is wha it is.)

You stated quite clearly that you were concerned about our "lack" of English talent coming into the club.

Well I posted the facts to counter your proclaimations - verifying that your opinion IS b*llocks.

I will continue to post as I wish, you sanctamonious old pr*ck, and the sooner you stop antagonising people with your inaccuracies, the sooner I will stop barrating you and your misguided beliefs.

A*sehole.

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