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by **puroresu** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:43 pm

reds(and white=PSV) wrote:That was an incredible side, combination of experience (Rijkaard, de Boer brothers) and talent (Seedorf, Kluivert).
Van Gaal is trying to do the same with AZ now. Not so much experience but a lot of very young great talents. Only problem is that it is hard to keep these players in the Dutch League. But thats just the way it is...

Thats why I am proud of PSV, if you look at who they lost the last years;
Robben (Chelsea), Rommedahl (Charlton Athl.), Kezman (Chelsea), Vogel (AC Milan), v. Bommel (Barcelona), Park (Man. Utd.), Lee (Tott. Hotsp.), Bouma (Aston Villa), Ooijer (Blackburn Rovers), Vennegoor of Hesselink (Celtic).

They might not all be stars now, but they were always in the starting line up for us. And most of them were part of the team, that made it to the semifinals of the CL the year the Reds won..

Very true. That Ajax side was broken up and they lost so many players. A lot went for free as well under the Bosman ruling so Ajax missed out on a lot of fee's.

What do u think of Hesselink? Im half scottish and love Celtic. His done very well for us just been injured. Back now though and was very pleased we got him.

by **reds(and white=PSV)** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:57 pm

I think he is good player. Not the most talented player there is, but he always works hard and he scores. He is (or maybe was) underestimated in the Netherlands for years. But he always kept scoring goals for PSV, both nationally and in the CL. Probably he was underestimated for such a long time, because people compared him to other players like van Nistelrooij and Kezman (by PSV) and Kluivert, Kuyt, Huntelaar, Ruud as well (Dutch team).

He is a totally different player then the ones above. I think his qualities are perfect for the British leagues. I am really glad for him that he is doing well in Scotland. Looking forward to seeing him tomorrow against Man Utd.

by **molovinPSV** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:22 pm

reds(and white=PSV) wrote:I think he is good player. Not the most talented player there is, but he always works hard and he scores. He is (or maybe was) underestimated in the Netherlands for years. But he always kept scoring goals for PSV, both nationally and in the CL. Probably he was underestimated for such a long time, because people compared him to other players like van Nistelrooij and Kezman (by PSV) and Kluivert, Kuyt, Huntelaar, Ruud as well (Dutch team).

He is a totally different player then the ones above. I think his qualities are perfect for the British leagues. I am really glad for him that he is doing well in Scotland. Looking forward to seeing him tomorrow against Man Utd.

Vennegoor was a good and very useful player, but I wouldn't change hem back. With koné and fárfán we are much stronger and more dangerous in attack.

by **peterc1992** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:11 pm

s@int wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:MolovinPSV, if I were you I'd be quietly confident of getting a result against us, TBH I can see our lack of morale and form carry over to the CL sooner or later if nothing gets sorted. At the moment I'm a little pessimstic about our form and I'm not as confident in the team as many other posters here. I dont know where they draw their confidence from because we have been shocking this season. But never the less I hope for an entertaining game and a Liverpool win.

I am confident Bamagaman because:-

1/ we have a great manager who WILL sort the problem out

2/ We havent played great but we have played well enough to beat teams like PSV. Hopefully we will have found our form before the knockout stages.

3/There were signs during the Mddlesborough game that it just needs a spark now to get us firing.

4/ We are at home

5/ We have too many good players to continue to play poorly.

6/ I have my fingers crossed and have said my prayers.

one point i would like tot take out of tht,were at home!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats the main one,we will win nno doubt ,u wont beat us at home ,no1 will be us at home this year

by **peterc1992** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:15 pm

Liverpool will win wednesday night i am sure,3-1

by **azriahmad** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:53 pm

I'd take any win as PSV is a good side and Ronald Koeman will want to extend his no los record against Rafa. PSV should not be underestimated, as they did well to beat Galatasaray away and also recovered from being a goal down at home to Galatasaray.

by **molovinPSV** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:55 pm

azriahmad wrote:I'd take any win as PSV is a good side and Ronald Koeman will want to extend his no los record against Rafa. PSV should not be underestimated, as they did well to beat Galatasaray away and also recovered from being a goal down at home to Galatasaray.

no we recovered from a goal down away at Istanbul, at home we won with 2-0

by **Bad Bob** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:54 pm

red37 wrote:there's going to be countless other 'Press cuttings' and other such reports to consign to the bin this week (hopefully not all ignored) but here's one that can be stuck up on the dressing room wall tomorrow morning Rafa:- from Jan Kromkamp of all authorities:

"We know how to get at Liverpool. They have plenty of weaknesses, They often revert to kicking long ugly balls up to Peter Crouch.The manager's tactics change as soon as you frustrate his players and that is what we will be aiming to do on Wednesday.

"They have weaknesses in several places, especially in the gap between defence and midfield, and also at centre back.

"In one-on-ones, the two in the middle of defence are very good, but they cannot contribute to Liverpool's build up play. So we will focus on that. If you block them from deep they soon lose their rhythm and start playing those long balls up to Crouch."

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got a point though hasnt he....amongst many others that need addressing. There's much work to be done, starting at Melwood tomorrow.

In the spirit of honest exchange I think we should let PSV know that Kromkamp is a lead-footed plodder who couldn't bear the thought of living above sea level for more than a season and who is really the flesh-and-blood incarnation of Hermey the Elf off of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer."

by **Olai** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:16 am

come on, 3-0 is totally unrealistic (unless a player gets send off)

I think these are 2 sides who are pretty even matched up against eachother. It could go either way. I think we (PSV) are pretty confident to get a good result there, there's absolutely no pressure but everyone is motivated to make a good performance in Liverpool.

We have grown significantly since the 0-0 draw against you guys, we have Cocu back and our team has developed into a great disciplined side). PSV often plays good versus English teams (except Arsenal) because of their style of play, and I think our strikers will perform optimal with the space they get in your homegame. Liverpool had an absolutely shocker in the premier league and i've read that Benitez will rest some keyplayers. This makes me think we'll have a good chance. Players like Gomes, Alex, Salcido, Cocu are absolutely topnotch European players who would fit in in any premier league side at the moment. That completed with experienced players like Simons, Mendez (one of the 50 nominees for the Golden Ball), and some talented players like Da Costa, Afellay. Above that we have 2 very capable strikers, which are very strong with the ball and are very hard to defend.

My guess would be a 1-1 or a 1-2.

That aside, ofcourse my opinion is influenced and i'm subjective, but I can't understand you'll think we're going to be a walkover, with Benitez aiming to rest some players in the CL.

Looking forward to this, hope we can make it to the nr1 spot in the group! Good luck guys

Cheers!

by **red37** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:33 am

Bad Bob wrote:
red37 wrote:there's going to be countless other 'Press cuttings' and other such reports to consign to the bin this week (hopefully not all ignored) but here's one that can be stuck up on the dressing room wall tomorrow morning Rafa:- from Jan Kromkamp of all authorities:

"We know how to get at Liverpool. They have plenty of weaknesses, They often revert to kicking long ugly balls up to Peter Crouch.The manager's tactics change as soon as you frustrate his players and that is what we will be aiming to do on Wednesday.

"They have weaknesses in several places, especially in the gap between defence and midfield, and also at centre back.

"In one-on-ones, the two in the middle of defence are very good, but they cannot contribute to Liverpool's build up play. So we will focus on that. If you block them from deep they soon lose their rhythm and start playing those long balls up to Crouch."

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got a point though hasnt he....amongst many others that need addressing. There's much work to be done, starting at Melwood tomorrow.

In the spirit of honest exchange I think we should let PSV know that Kromkamp is a lead-footed plodder who couldn't bear the thought of living above sea level for more than a season and who is really the flesh-and-blood incarnation of Hermey the Elf off of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer."

by **red37** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:32 am

some Uefa statistics/Match trivia and general information for both sides ahead of wednesdays CL matchday 5:

match officials

Referee Domenico Messina (ITA) total uefa games: 47

Television schedule

19:45 k.o - Sky Sports Xtra /Setanta Ireland (N.I only)

Television/commercial revenue

The gross income for 2006/07 is estimated at €750m, and according to projections, will be made up of € 743.3m from
TV and commercial contracts and €6.7m from new media contracts.
The fixed amount to the clubs is €276.6m. Each of the 32 clubs in the group stage will receive a starting bonus of
€2m. In addition, they will receive a match bonus of €400,000 per match. Performance bonuses will amount to €600,000
for a win and €300,000 for a draw in the group stage. The 16 teams playing in the first knockout round will receive
€2.2m, the eight quarter-finalists €2.5m each and the four semi-finalists €3m each. The UEFA Champions League
winners will receive €7m, and the runners-up €4m.

Liverpool trivia

• Although no current Liverpool player has yet reached 50 appearances in the UEFA Champions League, three are
closing in on the mark; Jamie Carragher leads the way having each featured in 45 games, two more than Jerzy Dudek
and one more than John Arne Riise. Sami Hyypiä has featured on 41 occasions.

• Hyypiä is within seven games of a century of UEFA club competition appearances; the centre-back has featured in
93 games. Eight players have played in 50 or more UEFA club matches, with Robbie Fowler next in line on 46
appearances.

• Four Liverpool players made their UEFA Champions League debuts on Matchday 1; Daniel Agger, Fabio Aurelio,
Mark González and Dirk Kuyt.

• Peter Crouch is one of ten players on three goals in this season's competition having scored twice against Galatasaray
before getting the winner against Bordeaux in France. Didier Drogba and Kaká lead the way with five goals.

• Steven Gerrard has had six shots on goal so far, five fewer than Kaká who has had the most.

• After four rounds of matches Liverpool have had the ball for an average of 25 minutes in each game, more only than
FC Steaua Bucuresti, who have had possession for an average of 23 minutes per game. Liverpool have also had an
average of 46 per cent possession over their four games, one per cent more than both FC København and PFC CSKA
Moskva, who have the lowest percentages of the 32 teams in the group stage.

Liverpool stats

Shots wide 26
Shots on goal 27
Fouls committed 58
Corners 19
Offside 11
Ball. Poss. (time) 25 Min
Ball. Poss. (%) 46%
Goals scored 7
Goals conceded 2
Yellow cards 5
Red cards 0

PSV Eindhoven trivia

• Should Phillip Cocu feature at Anfield, it will be the PSV midfielder's 75th game in the UEFA Champions League.
Michael Reiziger has played in 73 times in the competition to date.

• No outfield player either past or present has made as many UEFA Champions League appearances without scoring
as Reiziger.

• Patrick Kluivert, meanwhile, is within sight of his century of UEFA club competition appearances; the striker has
currently played 97 times although he is yet to feature in this season's group stage. Reiziger is also closing in on the
mark with 96 appearances, while Cocu has featured 116 times.

• The Matchday 1 draw with Liverpool marked the UEFA Champions League debuts of both Carlos Salcido and
Edison Méndez. Diego Tardelli and Roy Beerens both appeared for the first time two weeks later away to Bordeaux.

• Manuel Da Costa made his UEFA Champions League debut in the 2-0 defeat of Galatasaray on Matchday 4.

• Kluivert is the top UEFA Champions League goalscorer in the current PSV squad with 29 strikes to his name. No
other player has reached double figures, although Cocu is on nine goals.

• Arouna Koné is one of 12 players who have scored twice in the competition so far, with Didier Drogba and Kaká
the leading scorers on five goals each.

• The PSV striker has also had six shots on goal so far, five fewer than Kaká who has had the most.

• Koné has been flagged offside five times, seven fewer than Francesco Totti who has been caught the most.

• Jefferson Farfán has committed 14 fouls to date, three less than Florent Malouda, who has been penalised the
most.

• Only Celtic FC, with five, and FC Internazionale Milano (eleven) have had fewer shots wide than PSV's total of 12.

• PSV retained their position at the top of the Dutch Eredivisie on Saturday by defeating SC Excelsior 4-0 at the PSV
Stadium. The home side took the lead midway through the first half when Koné headed in and just before the break
defender Alex made it 2-0 with a long-range drive. The Dutch champions then added two late goals through Farfán
and another strike from outside the penalty area by Salcido.

• Ecuadorian midfielder Méndez sat out the win because of suspension while Ismaïl Aissati and Mika Väyrynen
were missing with hamstring injuries.

• Better news concerns Kluivert, who is approaching full fitness from a knee injury.

• Brazilian Alex played his 100th game for PSV against Excelsior. The 24-year-old marked the milestone with his
fourth goal of the season.

• It was PSV's seventh successive clean sheet and their tenth victory in a row in all competitions. PSV are unbeaten
for 17 matches overall since losing 1-0 on 27 August against FC Twente. They are still some way from eclipsing the
club record for remaining unbeaten, however, which stands at 31 matches.

• Five days later PSV breezed into the last 16 of the Dutch Cup with a 4-0 win at BV Vitesse. On target were Koné,
Jason Culina, Farfán and Timmy Simons, captain in place of the rested Cocu.

PSV Stats

Shots wide 12
Shots on goal 18
Fouls committed 61
Corners 19
Offside 15
Ball. Poss. (time) 30 Min.
Ball. Poss. (%) 52%
Goals scored 5
Goals conceded 1
Yellow cards 4
Red cards 1

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bit of light reading there for all you statto's.

by **Red_lass** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:53 am

i don't think a win by a big margin is on the cards. i would bite everyone's hands off if we win 1-0.

but theres no harm in hoping. Come on lets :censored:

em!!

by **FRfanatic** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:53 am

PSV is a good team but...........
If LFC just plays to win there will be no doubt LFC will win this game. PSV is is depending on 4 key players. Farfan in the front, very fast and easy scoring. Cocu in the midfield (the director) but their best player is Alex. Strong ,intimidating and therefore a pain in the *ss for tecnical opponents. Last but not least there is Gomez who will be in 2 years the worlds best goalkeeper. Like I said when LFC play their game with the intention to win they will win it because PSV is not good against a team that works hard. I think the game will go to the team with the best midfield.
Liverpool (Gerard) PSV 2-0
:buttrock

P.S. Please have Kuyt playing to give their defence a hard time, the only way to beat Alex, Bellamy is to fragile

by **tubby** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:57 am

The way things are going in the league i think doing well in Europe will be our only saving grace.

Also with no concrete progession on the investment front its vital we go far to secure good funding for next year should we not qualify for next year.

by **alessandromagno** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:21 pm

Hoping we are able to win this one.

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