coddy wrote:A.B. wrote:alessandromagno wrote:Personally I'd prefer Gerrard to stay if it was a choice between the two of them. Rafa might be off in a year or two anyway. Also, anyone who really thinks about the CL and the FA Cup will realise that the success was more due to Gerrard than Rafa. Rafa's great plan in the CL, playing Kewell and dropping Didi was hardly a master stroke. Nor was his decision to let Hamman go this year. It was always clear that an injury to Sissoko would make him indispensable.
Gerrard won the Champions League did he? Was Gerrard that got us the draw we needed against Juventus away from home?
Was Gerrard that scored us the goal against Chelsea?
Don't be so f#cking stupid. He took a side that was filled with deadwood in Biscan't,Traore,Smicer,etc.. and won us the Champions League final. Everyone played a part in our success, not just Rafa and not just Gerrard.
Biggest load of toash I've read in my life.
Disagree, i dont think it would have been won without SG, with or without the goal. He was the man who gave so called "deadwood" encouragement and inspiration to do the unimaginable and provide the world with the best nights football for a long time.
Although he wasnt a one man team, he was the sole reason we didnt lose the 2005 CL final by a record amount of goals.
3/ WTF is up with Bellamy, M.O.M. for Wales midweek just faded away for us today.
A.B. wrote:3/ WTF is up with Bellamy, M.O.M. for Wales midweek just faded away for us today.
You're blaming him for fading away? How could he not when the rest of his team-mates were hoofing 50 yard balls to a midget up front?
Our service to him and Kuyt was abysmal.
A.B. wrote:Pennant has had two decent performances this season. One against Haifa at home at Anfield and one against Galatasaray at Home.
He's been woeful apart from those two games. Stu was ranting about him and his abilities to get past a player,etc.. but he hasn't shown it consistantly.
He seems to be bambuzzled by the fact that he's playing for LFC.
I hope that he turns it around, afterall we paid six million for his services. He has had five or six assists but he needs to lift his head and start believing in himself.
Right now he looks like a small fish in a big pond.
eds wrote:Get rid of Gonzalez?
FFS he was man of the match today! If Crouch had scored from his cross you monkeys would be chanting his praise.
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CharmlessMan wrote:Rafa sees Gerrard as a vital cog in our machine, but this season a spanner has got into our cog, therefore the machine isn't working properly. The cog (Gerrard) has to keep on trying to spin to dislodge the spanner that's in the works and has to help Rafa try and move the spanner out of the cog, so that the machine functions properly again. However the cog isn't trying hard enough to force the spanner from the cog and this can lead to friction between the engineer (Rafa) and the vital cog in the works (Gerrard). That is my explanation of any possible rift between the pair (if there is a rift).
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eds wrote:Get rid of Gonzalez?
FFS he was man of the match today! If Crouch had scored from his cross you monkeys would be chanting his praise.
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s@int wrote:eds wrote:Get rid of Gonzalez?
FFS he was man of the match today! If Crouch had scored from his cross you monkeys would be chanting his praise.
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Who said get rid of Gonzales ? Try using quotes mate, makes it easier for the rest of us.
eds wrote:s@int wrote:eds wrote:Get rid of Gonzalez?
FFS he was man of the match today! If Crouch had scored from his cross you monkeys would be chanting his praise.
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Who said get rid of Gonzales ? Try using quotes mate, makes it easier for the rest of us.
Obviously you haven't read BOODIDDY's post that started off this ridiculous thread................
He says "Gonzalez is one that needs to go"
mistyred wrote:CharmlessMan wrote:Rafa sees Gerrard as a vital cog in our machine, but this season a spanner has got into our cog, therefore the machine isn't working properly. The cog (Gerrard) has to keep on trying to spin to dislodge the spanner that's in the works and has to help Rafa try and move the spanner out of the cog, so that the machine functions properly again. However the cog isn't trying hard enough to force the spanner from the cog and this can lead to friction between the engineer (Rafa) and the vital cog in the works (Gerrard). That is my explanation of any possible rift between the pair (if there is a rift).
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CharmlessMan wrote:mistyred wrote:CharmlessMan wrote:Rafa sees Gerrard as a vital cog in our machine, but this season a spanner has got into our cog, therefore the machine isn't working properly. The cog (Gerrard) has to keep on trying to spin to dislodge the spanner that's in the works and has to help Rafa try and move the spanner out of the cog, so that the machine functions properly again. However the cog isn't trying hard enough to force the spanner from the cog and this can lead to friction between the engineer (Rafa) and the vital cog in the works (Gerrard). That is my explanation of any possible rift between the pair (if there is a rift).
HUH, I glad that was easy for you to explain![]()
I gathered no one would understand what I was on about. Basically I see Gerrard a small, but vital cog in the centre of our machine (the machine being the team) and there is a spanner lodged into the small, but vital cog (Gerrard) and Rafa is trying to get rid of the spanner, so he's trying to pull the spanner from the cog, so the machine can work properly, however the engineer (Rafa) needs some help from his small, but vital cog (Gerrard) to get the machine working properly, like it did last season, but the small, but vital cog (Gerrard) is not helping dislodge the spanner in the works, so to speak. I replied to someone who said "Rafa might not rate Gerrard and would sell him for £30,000,000", I'm simply saying that he does rate Gerrard and won't sell him, but if there is friction between the pair it's because Gerrard isn't acting like a skipper.
I hope this helps.
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