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Postby 112-1077774096 » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:53 pm

ah now it all makes sense    ???
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Postby Sabre » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:56 pm

Respect The Kop?
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:58 pm

i know what the tk is but im strugggling with the the r    :D
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Postby alanpool » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:20 am

what??what??blur me!
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Postby account deleted by request » Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:38 am

Reclaim the kop  :)

This is a call to arms... but not those in long-sleeved sweatshirts worn under the club shirt. Not those that spend the match phoning each other and saying "stand up", "wave to us", "we're in the big end opposite the Bordeaux fans..."; not those who support the team for five minutes then start slating them if we're not 3-0 up.

Seriously. Our support needs sorting out before the quilts have watered us down to nothing. Let's wind back a bit. We support the greatest, most romantic football club in the world. I say romantic because our tales are so many and so :censored: heroic that it's like a book of legends and it makes you cry with pride that you've been a part of it. Now, sometimes, you just want to cry...

We used to have a pin-stripe scarf with a United Nations style emblem woven around the Liverbird: "Lverpool F.C: Supporters All Over The World". That's a thing of pride. Forget all the Local Support v Out Of Town debate. A supporter is a supporter no matter where they come from, just so long as they've had their education.

This is where we're falling down. Not so long ago we'd sing "You got your education from The Kop". Being a Liverpool supporter stood for something. Supporting this club brought responsibilities. You were different. You dressed different. You didn't follow the moronic chants that every other club came up with. You were part of something - something known and revered all over the world, and it was :censored: brilliant. Above all else, you supported Liverpool and you got behind the team.

What are we now? A gang of :censored:, mainly. No different from Chelsea or Arsenal or Man.United. Most of the community on this site are right-thinking Reds who cherish the tradition and the values, so no-one needs me to list the litany of disgrace. All I'll say is, you wouldn't take a mobile into church and start taking photies of the priest.

Things have got to change, brethren, and soon. Good fans no longer feel a part of the increasingly shallow Anfield experience and it won't be long before more and more start spewing it. We need a reasonable, sensible, enforcable charter that properly educates as to what is required of them if they're to have the honour of representing this club of ours. In the spirit of KFS, let's get back to basics and reclaim the terraces.

Step One is your own contributions as to the worst offences. Step Two is a mass-flyer excercise, politely explaining why these things won't be tolerated any more. And Step Three is, long term, let's find a RAOTL home where like-minded people can have a drink without having to take a deep breath and, once again, explain to some :censored: from Cork why we don't read The Sun. Enough.

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Postby Sabre » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:26 pm

Sweet irony.

Liverpool FC and their supporters. They appear as the best crowd in the world in the documentaries of the TV and articles of the papers of my country. Their not a crowd their a legend.

And yet, they still complain about they must be even better :)
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Postby 66-1120597113 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:17 am

Sabre wrote:Sweet irony.

Liverpool FC and their supporters. They appear as the best crowd in the world in the documentaries of the TV and articles of the papers of my country. Their not a crowd their a legend.

And yet, they still complain about they must be even better :)

Stop wa.nking Sabre!!

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Postby Ciggy » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:25 am

Sabre wrote:Sweet irony.

Liverpool FC and their supporters. They appear as the best crowd in the world in the documentaries of the TV and articles of the papers of my country. Their not a crowd their a legend.

And yet, they still complain about they must be even better :)

You'd be suprised Sabre, unfortunatly Anfield is slowly dissappearing under our noses.
The atmospheres have been dreadful for quite some time now, it was alrite on tuesday night but European nights are special anyway.
Sadly there are visitors to Anfield wearing horses heads now, its crying shame its not a tourist attraction and you dont go the game to get on TV.
And when the like of the Geordies and the Villa fans are singin your support is feckin sh.it, they have a point cause it has been.
There is no-one anywhere in the world at any stage who is any bigger or any better than this football club.

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Postby Sabre » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:41 am

I'm well aware of that Ciggy, I can grasp a bit of Anfield in the TV, and you mates have written plenty about it.

My point is that it's a global phenomena, it happens everywhere, not just Anfield.

When the Liverpudlians are away supporting LFC, they use to outsing the home crowd. You can hear that week in, week out. And it makes us feel proud. Those are the best among the supporters.

The supporters of Villa or the Magpies that come to Anfield, are also the best of their (lesser) kind, and when they see plastic fans in Anfield they sing about it.  And we don't like that of course.

I think that all in all, Liverpool fans are the best of England and hence, the world. If you go to other stadiums, you will also see plstic fans with ridiculous hats. Dalglish could probably confirm that, or many of you.

In Spain the same thing happens. My usual crowd used to be fierce. We were only 14000 back in the eighties and we were packed. Real Madrid players admitted to be afraid to come to San Sebastian. The contention fence waved and moved as if it was going to fall apart. Now we are 30000. And the grandmother comes with the grandson. And the girlfriend goes with his boy. And we are all seated and comfortable. It sucks.

But it's global. Security wins, passion loses.
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Postby jkop » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:40 am

Good read thanks S@int. :nod
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Postby jonnymac1979 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:44 pm

s@int wrote:Reclaim the kop  :)

This is a call to arms... but not those in long-sleeved sweatshirts worn under the club shirt. Not those that spend the match phoning each other and saying "stand up", "wave to us", "we're in the big end opposite the Bordeaux fans..."; not those who support the team for five minutes then start slating them if we're not 3-0 up.

Seriously. Our support needs sorting out before the quilts have watered us down to nothing. Let's wind back a bit. We support the greatest, most romantic football club in the world. I say romantic because our tales are so many and so :censored: heroic that it's like a book of legends and it makes you cry with pride that you've been a part of it. Now, sometimes, you just want to cry...

We used to have a pin-stripe scarf with a United Nations style emblem woven around the Liverbird: "Lverpool F.C: Supporters All Over The World". That's a thing of pride. Forget all the Local Support v Out Of Town debate. A supporter is a supporter no matter where they come from, just so long as they've had their education.

This is where we're falling down. Not so long ago we'd sing "You got your education from The Kop". Being a Liverpool supporter stood for something. Supporting this club brought responsibilities. You were different. You dressed different. You didn't follow the moronic chants that every other club came up with. You were part of something - something known and revered all over the world, and it was :censored: brilliant. Above all else, you supported Liverpool and you got behind the team.

What are we now? A gang of :censored:, mainly. No different from Chelsea or Arsenal or Man.United. Most of the community on this site are right-thinking Reds who cherish the tradition and the values, so no-one needs me to list the litany of disgrace. All I'll say is, you wouldn't take a mobile into church and start taking photies of the priest.

Things have got to change, brethren, and soon. Good fans no longer feel a part of the increasingly shallow Anfield experience and it won't be long before more and more start spewing it. We need a reasonable, sensible, enforcable charter that properly educates as to what is required of them if they're to have the honour of representing this club of ours. In the spirit of KFS, let's get back to basics and reclaim the terraces.

Step One is your own contributions as to the worst offences. Step Two is a mass-flyer excercise, politely explaining why these things won't be tolerated any more. And Step Three is, long term, let's find a RAOTL home where like-minded people can have a drink without having to take a deep breath and, once again, explain to some :censored: from Cork why we don't read The Sun. Enough.

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Belter idea.  Need to stop those fucking Soccer AM chants and have a word with people who just don't understand what it means to be at Anfield

(Incidentally can I just categorically state right here right now that elsewhere on this forum, a Soccer Am thread was started once and I think I said I liked it.

Now I wish to say I fucking detest everything about that fucking show.  I won't watch it anymore.  I can't physically watch it anymore.  I can't put my eyes through it anymore.  Big over-the-top-Sky-Sports-Chelsea-John-Terry-Love-In.  It irritates me.  Don't care who the guests are (usually shit anyway) I cannot stand the smugness and the way they still laugh at topless weather jokes or find that big nosed pricks jokes funny every week, or their stupid fucking soccerette slappers and their work experience student boy who thinks he is some kind of funny rapper and asks the guests a completely stupid question.  The joke has worn so thin only fucking idiots would think to sing "Easy Easy" on the terraces on Anfield.  If you do it, yes I'm talking to you. 

One more thing, if you think watchng a red and blue wrestler pinning each other before a commercial break is so funny that you need to announce "I'm a twatty Chelsea wankfest Soccer Am fan" at Anfield by singing easy, easy, you've got a fucking problem and you need to get out more.

Wanker of a television programme that.

Wrong thread probably but the Soccer Am chants do not belong at Anfield.  So this is a message I agree with.

So there  :D )
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Postby jonnymac1979 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:44 pm

Sorry, don't know what just came over me, but I started and had to finish. :laugh:
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Postby Woollyback » Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:07 am

no need to apologise john, soccer am is utter f*ckin garbage. like you say it's john-terry's-@rsehole-licking-southern-centric f*ckin bollox

we ARE a different club, our supporters ARE different, we are NOT a normal club, we don't want to hear chants of "easy, easy" once we're a couple of goals to the good

I'm not exactly speaking from a position of strength as i only get to anfield 7/8 times a season these days but i remember having my football education on the kop and it's a bit depressing to see it slowly stagnating into just another football stand
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Postby LFC #1 » Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:55 am

s@int wrote:Forget all the Local Support v Out Of Town debate. A supporter is a supporter no matter where they come from, just so long as they've had their education.

I love this part as it so true, and for me the key to being a fan of this great club.

I'd like to think I'm pretty educated on the club, especially for a 20 yr old ooter. I have read and read about our history, but often the best way to learn things is actually from regular match-goers (mostly scousers) about the ins and outs of what and what not to do in the ground. I'm talking about the likes of Dalglish, Leon etc.     

I know most of the songs, I know what oppo fans sing about us and I know not to sing sh!te like "easy, easy" or turn up to the ground looking like that silly kid in the photo above. I know not to start clapping until the second part of YNWA but so many don't! These things aren't hard to learn, it just requires a bit of effort to educate oneself.

I have only been to two games in my life so I can't claim to be as knowledgeable as many but I do my best.

The atmosphere (from what I can tell on telly) has been very poor this season.

The game I went to at Anfield was Fowler's return last season and the atmosphere was very average until God came on, I still loved it though for the sheer magic of the place, however for having a good old sing song the away game at Stamford Bridge (which I got a ticket for - cheers Ian!) was so much better, even though we lost it was 3000 real fans singing for 90 mins.

Reclaim the Kop - fantastic idea, I only wish I could be a part of it more often.
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