Manc songs - A sick snapshot of society

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Postby red37 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:28 pm

sick b@stards  :angry: have they no songs to sing in support of their own club?  instead of provoking the reaction they unfortunately and some would say inevitably received...can you blame our lads for responding? what is the world coming to when its full of scum like that....not exactly news, but still worth highlighting. the inbred f.uckers!!




Shameful songs of disaster Oct 25 2006

 
By Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo


IT was the kind of welcome which showed not everyone was ready to make gestures of friendship.

"F***k off you murdering Scouse b*****ds" read one piece of graffiti daubed on a wall just yards from Old Trafford.

Following on from the now routine "Hillsborough 89" sprayed onto a motorway bridge this was a hearty "welcome" - Manchester style.

When Liverpool and Man United meet at either ground, hatred comes to town and whatever efforts the clubs go to there seems little chance of friendship or even a semblance of tolerance breaking out.

For all the swapping of pennants, half-time penalty shootouts and daft posters in away ends, this is the one fixture in the English football calendar in which you can actually guarantee trouble.

On Sunday, the Liverpool fans fell for the five-card trick. After years of refusing to respond to the United supporters chant of "Where's your famous Munich song?" they gave in and sang it.

There had been provocation. And plenty of it. Having abuse chanted at you about Michael Shields, Heysel, unemployment and even Hillsborough for almost an hour is never going to be pleasant.

But singing that particular song about an air disaster which happened almost 50 years ago was as soul destroying as it was sick.

Are we really into the realms of disaster oneupmanship?

There is a rawness about Hillsborough which Munich cannot match. You only have to think of the numbers involved and how comparatively recent it is to know that.

How many present day United fans lost friends and family at Munich? It can't be many.

Compare that with the fact that thousands upon thousands of Liverpool fans were, and still are, deeply affected by Hillsborough and it doesn't take any great intelligence to realise this is one battle that the Reds of Merseyside just shouldn't be involved in.

And that's without even using the argument of basic taste and decency which seems to go out of the window when these two particular tribes meet.

To be fair, there were those in the heavily policed Liverpool end who tried to drown out those who think it's clever to sing about death and disaster but they were outnumbered and their songs of support for their team (that is, after all, what we're there for) couldn't compete with the ditties of death.

It was only a couple of years ago that a section of Liverpool fans responded violently to songs about Hillsborough being sung at Millwall.

To be quite honest, I could understand their reaction even if I couldn't condone it.

But what happened at Old Trafford on Sunday was different. It was shameful and embarrassing in equal measure and it reduced the memory of the 96 people who died at Hillsborough to something which can be traded in terrace "banter".

So much for goodwill gestures.

  :angry: f.uck off....

dignity and humility will never be courted where it comes to MUFC. but tell us something we didnt know.
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Postby murphy0151 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:52 pm

I just hope im in the upper Anny road when they visit Anfield.  Im going to make sure I have either a dodgy curry or keebab the night before this one.
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Postby 83-1161730487 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:24 pm

I suppose throwing :censored: last year at anfield was just good fun eh.
I do not condone the murderers blah blah blah.
Munich was sung for years before the knightmare of hillsborough.
Surely anyone who joins in with this are just morons at the end of the day.

There is just as much hatred on mersyside as there is here.
Not just one way.
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Postby royboylfc » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:25 pm

SICK i cant stand them my family are man u fans an even they think its sick.lets get them 2 anfield an show them what singing is all about [ let no mancs b heard ] just watched 10 mins of man scum v crewe [ ht lfc match ] an you can clearly hear the scum singing anti liverpool songs.  :veryangry [ i hope liverpool fans respond why should we take it. ]
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Postby puroresu » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:05 am

I was at OT for the semi v Chelsea and there was plenty things said about Munich on the walls.
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Postby Gracias King Rafa » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:58 am

royboylfc wrote:SICK i cant stand them my family are man u fans an even they think its sick.lets get them 2 anfield an show them what singing is all about [ let no mancs b heard ] just watched 10 mins of man scum v crewe [ ht lfc match ] an you can clearly hear the scum singing anti liverpool songs.  :veryangry [ i hope liverpool fans respond why should we take it. ]

Their oh so witty "We won it two times without killing anyone" as well as all the other s***e they sing about us just goes to show what an inferiorty complex those inbreds have about us,lets hope they get a kicking when they come to Anfield!!! :angry:
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Postby Ace Ventura » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:25 am

red37 i totally agree and i said the same thing after the F.A cup game at Anfield last season, things are going beyond football and its not just in bad taste now, something serious is going to happen unless the two sets of fans pack it in.
I could clearly hear the United fans singing about us last night and its disgusting but i dont think we should start doing the same. We have the best fans in the country, and also like any club some sick fans who dont stop and think about what affect there actions are having on decent human beings.
The last bit of red37's post about these tradgedies being reduced to terrace banter again is spot on, the people who are singing about Munich are no better than the manc fans who are singing about heysel and hillsborough .
My message is just ignore what they are doing, hopefully it will then stop, if we respond it will just escalate. Thats not being a sh!thouse, its me wanting us to respect other peoples feelings as we are ending up hurting our own by responding.
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Postby red37 » Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:20 am

thanks Ace lad. i personally find it disgusting from the Manchester United following (though they are far from alone)...but almost as sad to hear our lads stooping to that level.. it is a real shame. and like you say, a matter of time before someone actually does take matters into their own hands and more blood is shed. though could you really blame them?  OK its unfortunatley part of life. and perhaps has been going on in some shape or form for years...that doesnt mean its right. its certainly isnt something i want my kids hearing...in any case NOBODY involved in BOTH tragedies should be treated with that kind of disrespect.

i hoped for a bit more reaction from the others TBH..
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Postby Ace Ventura » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:19 pm

Whats a bit more disturbing is the quite popular response of....if they do something sick and disrespectful then we will do it back, and worse.
Anybody from this city should understand that Hillsborough has devastated so many lives, not just the 96, but their families friends and other fans.
To sing about Munich is adding fuel to the already raging fire that the United fans have regarding us so not matter how disgusting the chants they are making, i would urge people to do there best to ignore.
There is more chance of it dying down if its not provoking a response.
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Postby Redman in wales » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:31 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:Whats a bit more disturbing is the quite popular response of....if they do something sick and disrespectful then we will do it back, and worse.
Anybody from this city should understand that Hillsborough has devastated so many lives, not just the 96, but their families friends and other fans.
To sing about Munich is adding fuel to the already raging fire that the United fans have regarding us so not matter how disgusting the chants they are making, i would urge people to do there best to ignore.
There is more chance of it dying down if its not provoking a response.

agree. So what was murphy0151 talking about in the second post?? ???
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