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by **Mannyk** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:46 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:Bordeaux is a difficult place to visit when you're struggling for form, particularly away form.

Why can't we have an easy match to build some confidence with?

Anyhoo....

I'd go with the following team, assuming Agger and Momo are not going to be risked:

Reina

Finnan JC Sami Riise

Gerrard Alonso Aurelio

Garcia

Kuyt Crouch.

In the absence of Momo, I'd sooner see GErrard, Xabi and Aurelio playing narrow, with the option of Gerrard and Aurelio nipping out to slip some crosses in, but giving more license to Riise and Finnan to come up and ping the balls in.

Bit of a different team, but one with at least 6 regular-ish goalscorers in it.

Garcia's invention is desperately needed.

I agree Lando . Garcia is a must . I am a big fan of his. I know sometimes he gets slated for wasting chances but things seem to happen when he is on the park. He and Alonso seem to play well together and Kuyt and Crouch give different options.

The team you have chosen is possibly our strongest in my opinion anyway.

I think if the team can smack a well known club by a few goals then the confidence will rub off on the rest of the squad.

I reckon there is that much pressure on them at the moment that it is affecting there performance and I think it all comes down to scoring.

I think that the team needs to play a little more risky football if that's possible and makes sense and the team you have chosen can do that. Although I doubt rafa will take too may risky options this game.

by **Alonso14** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:53 am

Gerrards out of the game lads, its breaking news on skysports.

by **mattylfc** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:06 am

Yeah just seen it on the web, gutted.

From Sky Sports:

Liverpool will be without inspirational captain Steven Gerrard for Wednesday's UEFA Champions League clash with Bordeaux.

The all-action midfielder picked up a hamstring injury during the draw with Blackburn on Saturday and the complaint failed to respond to treatment on Monday.

Gerrard has racked up 349 appearances for Liverpool, but the 26-year-old will not get the chance to make it 350 in France after Rafa Benitez decided not to take the England international with the rest of the squad.

Liverpool have a win and a draw to their name following the first two rounds in Group C, but they will have to overcome Bordeaux without their star man.

The Reds have a huge Premiership encounter with Manchester United on Sunday and Benitez may well feel that resting Gerrard on Wednesday will enable him to shrug off his knock in time to face The Red Devils.

by **skatesy** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:06 am

It is true.

Here is a link to BBC Football:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6050902.stm

by **bigmick** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:07 am

Alonso14 wrote:Gerrards out of the game lads, its breaking news on skysports.

It's a shame but it shouldn't be a problem against these. In any other context we would go there very confident as they are basically a poor team judging by their results in the French League. The most important thing is that Gerrard is fit for Man Utd so it's no panic.

The thing is selection wise, lets not do anything silly now. Gerrard surely would have played wide-right, now he's not going to play Pennant comes in and takes his place. That's it. It doesn't mean we have to have an experimental 4-5-1 or a christmas tree 3-4-2-1 or any of that old nonsense, just a straight swap thanks. Alonso and Sissoko central if the destroyer is fit, if not then I guess we must suffer Zenden again.

What we must do though is go there and take the game to them. What you want if it's 0-0 after half an hour is them thinking "FFS (or sacre fecking bleu) we're never going to hold out for a draw here". Not a game of chess please, a high-tempo, charged up, brush aside of inferior opponents is whats required.

by **Espionage** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:15 am

bigmick wrote:
Alonso14 wrote:Gerrards out of the game lads, its breaking news on skysports.

It's a shame but it shouldn't be a problem against these. In any other context we would go there very confident as they are basically a poor team judging by their results in the French League. The most important thing is that Gerrard is fit for Man Utd so it's no panic.

The thing is selection wise, lets not do anything silly now. Gerrard surely would have played wide-right, now he's not going to play Pennant comes in and takes his place. That's it. It doesn't mean we have to have an experimental 4-5-1 or a christmas tree 3-4-2-1 or any of that old nonsense, just a straight swap thanks. Alonso and Sissoko central if the destroyer is fit, if not then I guess we must suffer Zenden again.

What we must do though is go there and take the game to them. What you want if it's 0-0 after half an hour is them thinking "FFS (or sacre fecking bleu) we're never going to hold out for a draw here". Not a game of chess please, a high-tempo, charged up, brush aside of inferior opponents is whats required.

It wouldnt surprise me if Gerrard was easily fit enough but Rafa is using it as a smokescreen in order to continue the tactic of resting Gerrard in away games in the CL.

Also I would be shattered if we had no Gerrard and no Momo for the game at Old Trafford

by **The_Rock** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:21 am

Espionage wrote:
bigmick wrote:
Alonso14 wrote:Gerrards out of the game lads, its breaking news on skysports.

It's a shame but it shouldn't be a problem against these. In any other context we would go there very confident as they are basically a poor team judging by their results in the French League. The most important thing is that Gerrard is fit for Man Utd so it's no panic.

The thing is selection wise, lets not do anything silly now. Gerrard surely would have played wide-right, now he's not going to play Pennant comes in and takes his place. That's it. It doesn't mean we have to have an experimental 4-5-1 or a christmas tree 3-4-2-1 or any of that old nonsense, just a straight swap thanks. Alonso and Sissoko central if the destroyer is fit, if not then I guess we must suffer Zenden again.

What we must do though is go there and take the game to them. What you want if it's 0-0 after half an hour is them thinking "FFS (or sacre fecking bleu) we're never going to hold out for a draw here". Not a game of chess please, a high-tempo, charged up, brush aside of inferior opponents is whats required.

It wouldnt surprise me if Gerrard was easily fit enough but Rafa is using it as a smokescreen in order to continue the tactic of resting Gerrard in away games in the CL.

Also I would be shattered if we had no Gerrard and no Momo for the game at Old Trafford

Tats what i thought....

No gerrard ? well i would be happy with a scrapy 1-1 draw then.

by **bigmick** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:24 am

Espionage wrote:It wouldnt surprise me if Gerrard was easily fit enough but Rafa is using it as a smokescreen in order to continue the tactic of resting Gerrard in away games in the CL.

It's an interesting theory mate and one I wouldn't discount. Sooner or later Gerrard and Rafa are going to have to have a chat about our best players lack of form, and maybe they've already had it. Maybe the long overdue arm around the shoulder and bit of a cuddle has been forthcoming at Melwood and everybody has made friends again. I for one certainly hope so.

If it is the case, it defenately wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that Rafa has told him "stay at home with the new baby week stevie, we'll win anyway". "Re-charge your batteries for Old Trafford and lets get this on the road". Those of us who can remember what it's like in the first few months after one of your kids is born would know that the occasional lethargic performance from Gerrard is probably to be expected. You never know Espionage mate, you might have it on the head.

by **Espionage** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:35 am

bigmick wrote:
Espionage wrote:It wouldnt surprise me if Gerrard was easily fit enough but Rafa is using it as a smokescreen in order to continue the tactic of resting Gerrard in away games in the CL.

It's an interesting theory mate and one I wouldn't discount. Sooner or later Gerrard and Rafa are going to have to have a chat about our best players lack of form, and maybe they've already had it. Maybe the long overdue arm around the shoulder and bit of a cuddle has been forthcoming at Melwood and everybody has made friends again. I for one certainly hope so.

If it is the case, it defenately wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that Rafa has told him "stay at home with the new baby week stevie, we'll win anyway". "Re-charge your batteries for Old Trafford and lets get this on the road". Those of us who can remember what it's like in the first few months after one of your kids is born would know that the occasional lethargic performance from Gerrard is probably to be expected. You never know Espionage mate, you might have it on the head.

Rafa does seem pretty shrewd at times. Imagine if we lost and Gerrard travelled but was rested, some would be calling Rafa's head.

Hypothetically if it is true, I imagine that Rafa would have spoken to Gerrard and said "we will recieve less criticism if you just act hurt." In case of a loss, it means less headlines. There are pockets of Rafa-haters around and its best not to aggravate them

by **Rimetto_** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:43 am

Alonso14 wrote:Gerrards out of the game lads, its breaking news on skysports.

does it say why's he's out? injury or rotation?

by **mattylfc** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:43 am

Maybe he actually has a hamstring injury.

by **Rimetto_** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:45 am

Liverpool will be without inspirational captain Steven Gerrard for Wednesday's UEFA Champions League clash with Bordeaux.

The all-action midfielder picked up a hamstring injury during the draw with Blackburn on Saturday and the complaint failed to respond to treatment on Monday.

Gerrard has racked up 349 appearances for Liverpool, but the 26-year-old will not get the chance to make it 350 in France after Rafa Benitez decided not to take the England international with the rest of the squad.

Liverpool have a win and a draw to their name following the first two rounds in Group C, but they will have to overcome Bordeaux without their star man.
Here's the report on SKY

The Reds have a huge Premiership encounter with Manchester United on Sunday and Benitez may well feel that resting Gerrard on Wednesday will enable him to shrug off his knock in time to face The Red Devils

by **aCe'** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:45 am

gerrard's absence shouldnt matter much...if it did, Rafa would have probably taken him anyways...i expect a 3-0 win really... Crouch and Garcia to shine ! One thing though... we need to go out there and attack, attack attack and attack... not a strong team bordeaux....not at all..seen a game in the french league this season... no better than wigan !

Reina

Finnan Carragher Sami Riise

Pennant Alonso Zenden Aurelio

Garcia
Crouch

Kuyt to come on later....heard he's still injured and is a doubt ! would love for him to play in for Aurelio with Garcia on the left flank.

and by the way...not many arnd here hate rafa.... many ppl just dont agree with some of the decisions he made so far this season....havnt paid off...thing is.... wen he's wrong....ppl tend to to twist things rather than admitting it wwas probably a mistake by Rafa

by **mattylfc** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:17 am

How i would line up depneding on whether sissoko and fowler are fit, would rest kuyt for sunday if unsure:

Reina

Finnan JC Hyppia Warnock

Garcia Alonso Sissoko/Zenden Risse

Crouch Bellamy/Fowler

by **Leonidas08** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:17 am

that seems like a good line up, i could go with that

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