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by **74-1160487249** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:09 pm

Sabre wrote:I know, we have to read Marx and Engels in secondary school, we like it or not, but the truth is that there hasn't been a succesful implementation of this philosophy in the world, not sure if it's possible (would be a deep debate) due to the very nature of mankind.

It hasn't worked because the people implementing it have taken bits out and added their own bits too it. You cannot call Lenin's reign and Stalin's in Russia and some parts of the world as being "Communist" because that's false. Would it work? I don't know, I doubt it in this day an age. Anyway it's going off topic, so we should just focus on nuclear weaponary and technology.

by **66-1112520797** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:10 pm

Jerzy wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
Sadly nuclear energy seems to be the only way forward at this present time

Why is that sad ?

Nuclear energy when contained properly is non-hazardous, I seem to remember Blair wanting more plants in Britain built so we didnt have to fork out ridiculous prices of oil from Russia and the middle-east.

There is a new phobia in the world today called Radiophobia or something like that, bascily its a phobia of people with an uneducated fear of nuclear energy and more so radiation.

It's sad because it will no doubt a) damage the environment, but oh well who cares? As long as your dead when the mother nature causes havoc, right? B) It will be abused to no end and will probably result in usage during war, so more people would die and land would become inhabitable, but who cares about that? As long as it's not you right?

I know enough about radiation and nuclear technology, thanks for you diagnosis of me and other people who aren't apathetic but it's wasted on me.

How does it damage the enviroment as opposed to fossil fuels ?

And where did I, or why do you bring in the useage of war to it when I wasd talking of energy. ?

The thing is no-one knows enough about radiation, not even the so-called experts, so how you do beggers belief.
And theres no need to be sarcastic you Mexican little ru.nt.!

by **74-1160487249** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:13 pm

I'd imagine it would damage the environment, most of what man creates or does damages the environment in more ways than one, so why would this be different?

Why did I bring the usage of war into it? Simple because this form of energy will be abused like most other things in life.

As you can I show great amounts of Conservatism in my outlook on human behaviour, so that is why I brought it up.

Me, Sarcastic? Never, you have me mistaken with someone who uses sarcasm.

by **Sabre** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:21 pm

How does it damage the enviroment as opposed to fossil fuels ?

Well some atrocities have been made with the residuals of nuclear fision energy. There have been confined in coffins some of this nuclear waste and put it in the ocean. At some point that coffins will break down (won't happen in the next 200 years but will happen) and this kind of waste can take thousand of years to naturally dissapear. That's a difference.

Anyway, I still think it's a necessary energy until the development of the fussion clean energy, due to the amount of energy. It's not that I say this, it's that most of the experts say so, it's one of the hottest debates at the moment.

by **66-1112520797** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:25 pm

Sabre wrote:
How does it damage the enviroment as opposed to fossil fuels ?

Well some atrocities have been made with the residuals of nuclear fision energy. There have been confined in coffins some of this nuclear waste and put it in the ocean. At some point that coffins will break down (won't happen in the next 200 years but will happen) and this kind of waste can take thousand of years to naturally dissapear. That's a difference.

Anyway, I still think it's a necessary energy until the development of the fussion clean energy, due to the amount of energy. It's not that I say this, it's that most of the experts say so, it's one of the hottest debates at the moment.

Instead of burying them, maybe they should stick em on a launch pad and f.ck em off out to space.

Surely there wont be no comeback from that.

by **Sabre** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:27 pm

Instead of burying them, maybe they should stick em on a launch pad and f.ck em off out to space.

Surely there wont be no comeback from that.

Yeh, good idea to send the coffins to Venus, won't make a difference there, but that's expensive. And that's the problem, when they put in the balance the environment and the money, they have always chosen money.

And we'll pay for that, there's nothing free in this life.

by **Bad Bob** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:38 pm

Sabre wrote:
I don't buy that, you can use other non-polluting natural resources to generate energy. Wind turbines are one method, water is another method. There are inventors developing cars that run on substances such as cooking oil.

Yeh new ways creating energy are being researched everyday, some of them very interesting like using the rubbish of the cities as they emanate metane (I think) and are creating ways to create clean electricity with that. The problem is, the AMOUNT is not enough.

As for the nuclear weapons, every single european country have the technology to develope his own program. In our country it's the people who voted to avoid those, and it's going to be that way always.

I don't see America as my enemy. They started a war with Spain in 1898 by sinking the "Maine" an american vessel and blaming us (this is american history, easily found in internet, just for the doubters), a tactic that they seemed have to used afterwards again. They do have a dark history of bad actions, but it's not all evil about them, me thinks:

I preffer the europe we have after their intervention in the WWII rather than the Europe we might have if they didn't. Hitler might have lost the war eventually but we would have had more communist countries probably in Europe, mine would be one of those. I'd say that the occidental countries in Europe had a better development than the communist block, so I have to thank the Americans for kicking some nazi asses and keep us away from Stalin. Yep we had to suffer Franco the fascist here (Churchill and Europe preffered a fascist Spain rather than a Communist Spain, that's why they allowed Franco to be in power) but I don't envy the fate of any of the communist block countries.

Spot on, Sabre. Our current energy consumption cannot be maintained with most alternative energies in use or in development at the moment. Hydroelectricity and nuclear power stand the best shots of replacing oil in most of the world but the capacity for the former is largely tapped already in many places and the latter has disposal issues that obviously get many people nervous.

Wouldn't be surprised to see American coal consumption sky-rocket as oil becomes more expensive. The U.S. is the Saudi Arabia of coal with something in the order of trillions of tons of the stuff lying around. They even think they've found ways to burn it more cleanly. Of course, extracting it will mean levelling and strip-mining half of the Appalachian Mountains, but that's nothing good ol' American know-how can't fix!

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:12 am

Jerzy wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Jerzy wrote:They tested a missile, so what? Did it kill anyone? I'm unaware of it killing anyone, therefore I don't see a problem with it. The UK tests missiles and bombs in places such as Dorset, the US waltz into the Middle East and use their weapons there.

I disagree with nuclear power used as energy, so I'm dead against it being used to manufacture weapons of mass destruction.

However it cannot be one rule for one group of people and another for another set of people.

Oh our friend Liverpool Anytimes back again.

Nope, I'm not Liverpoolanytime, Karim or Mudface (who are the same people). I'm simply Oasis, who has decided to come back after hearing Lucas Neill will be signing us in January.

And on that bombshell, time for the Mods to do their stuff, me thinks.

Bye bye, Karim.

You f*cking turd.

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:43 am

JBG wrote:I generally keep out of threads like this but the utter stupidity and naivety shown by many members in this thread absolutely beggers belief.

The lack of understanding of what is going on in the world astonishes me and its the kind of nonsense you might read in the General Chat section of an American football forum.

Somebody else comes on here and offers a different view to the others and he's automatically accused of being on a wind up.

Not on a windup?

There is little evidence to show that North Korea or Iran are producing nuclear technology and energy to construct missiles

This the day after Korea detonated a nuclear device!

If Korea or Iran use these missiles then I will agree with the US stepping in, but until then they should sort Iraq out and leave Korea and Iran to their own devices.

Bit late once they have used it

They tested a missile, so what? Did it kill anyone? I'm unaware of it killing anyone, therefore I don't see a problem with it

YOU dont see a problem with it, but China,Russia, Japan, Britain,USA,S.Korea and the whole of the UN apart from Iran DO!

JBG - He is a banned member, who was notorious for windup posts.Do you honestly think those are reasonable posts? I honestly thought I was discussing nuclear weapons with a young teenager.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:56 am

s@int wrote:
JBG wrote:I generally keep out of threads like this but the utter stupidity and naivety shown by many members in this thread absolutely beggers belief.

The lack of understanding of what is going on in the world astonishes me and its the kind of nonsense you might read in the General Chat section of an American football forum.

Somebody else comes on here and offers a different view to the others and he's automatically accused of being on a wind up.

Not on a windup?

There is little evidence to show that North Korea or Iran are producing nuclear technology and energy to construct missiles

This the day after Korea detonated a nuclear device!

If Korea or Iran use these missiles then I will agree with the US stepping in, but until then they should sort Iraq out and leave Korea and Iran to their own devices.

Bit late once they have used it

They tested a missile, so what? Did it kill anyone? I'm unaware of it killing anyone, therefore I don't see a problem with it

YOU dont see a problem with it, but China,Russia, Japan, Britain,USA,S.Korea and the whole of the UN apart from Iran DO!

JBG - He is a banned member, who was notorious for windup posts.Do you honestly think those are reasonable posts? I honestly thought I was discussing nuclear weapons with a young teenager.

And all of those comments coming from the same spoon who is totally against using nuclear power for energy!!!!
Oasis, Mudface, KArim, LiverpoolAnytime - the wannabe Gangster who jumps frail old Grannies and get's battered by a hail of brolly-blows.

The pathetic hoody said:

"It's sad because it will no doubt a) damage the environment, but oh well who cares? As long as your dead when the mother nature causes havoc, right? B) It will be abused to no end and will probably result in usage during war, so more people would die and land would become inhabitable, but who cares about that? As long as it's not you right?

I know enough about radiation and nuclear technology, thanks for you diagnosis of me and other people who aren't apathetic but it's wasted on me."

RIGHT after he'd said:

"They tested a missile, so what? Did it kill anyone? I'm unaware of it killing anyone, therefore I don't see a problem with it".

- The innermost workings of the feeble mind.

Karim welcomes you.

:no

by **112-1077774096** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:03 am

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:24 am

peewee wrote:

Watch it, peewee - you'll have them burning the British Embassy in Malaysia!

by **112-1077774096** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:38 am

the muslims in malaysia are nice calm people mate. in three years i never had on argument about religion or had one person try to convince me islam was better than christianity. like i have said before my view of islam was tainted by my experience with muslims in england and i expected the same when i went to malaysia but i was wrong. there are even christmas trees everywhere at christmas mate, they are quite liberal and have a sense of humour

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:01 am

I didn't mean the Malaysian's would do it!

I think Karim has booked a one-way plane ticket.

by **112-1077774096** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:04 am

haha. i doubt it mate, he doesnt travel, he just sits in the nice surroundings the british have given him and tries to talk about other cultures when the furthest he has travelled is probably battersea

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