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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:41 pm

Anfield rapper wrote:Just seen this posted by i think a liverpool fan on Bluekipper it had me in stitches.

"I admire the effort gone into the making of this song, ha ha :censored:

To the tune of "You're Beautiful":

Your lives are worthless,
Your team is poor,
I saw your gaffer,
A gnome, I'm sure.

He frowned at me from his dosshole,
"Goodison the caravan",
But we won't lose no points to you,
Despite your best plan;

You're f*cking b*llocks.
You're f*cking b*llocks.
You're f*cking b*llocks, it's true.

We'll score a goal,
In your sh*thole,
And you won't know what to do,
When God scores number two.

Yes you caught my eye,
With your rancid pie,
I could see from your face that you were,
About to die,
And I don't think that we'll see you next year,
You'll be f*cked off to League one with good old Tranmere.

You're f*cking b*llocks.
You're f*cking b*llocks.
You're f*cking b*llocks, it's true.

We'll score a goal,
In your sh*thole,
And you won't know what to do,
When God scores number two.

Sh*t, sh*t, sh*t, sh*t,
Sh*t, sh*t, sh*t, sh*t,
Sh*t, sh*t, sh*t, you're sh*iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttt!!!

You're f*cking b*llocks.
You're f*cking b*llocks. You're f*cking b*llocks, you pr*cks.

There sits good old Shankly,
With a smile on his face,
He and Bob are laughing about your pit...

Now it's time to face the truth,
Your club is f*cking sh*t"

:D

I wrote that song! WHich thieving b*stard's passing it off as theirs?

If you look, I posted it about a week ago in this very thread!  ???
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Postby stmichael » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:02 pm

Spying Kop from RAWK


Everton, third in the table at the moment- just above Chelsea. It’s ridiculously early to be looking at league tables - but where do you expect to finish this season?

anthonyjevans: Challenging for a UEFA spot

Garrincha: Errrr…. You never can tell with Moyes. We would be happy top 6, ok top 8, below top 10 and the brands will be lighted. I suspect 6-8.

So, 15th, 7th, 17th, 4th and 11th – your final league standings under Moyes since he arrived. You’ve won 64 league games under him and been beaten in 63. An interesting statistic going into the Derby – perhaps the chance for an equaliser! So, What are your general feelings about your manager as things stand?

anthonyjevans: I think he’s turned us into a club capable of consistently qualifying for Europe, which is a fine achievement. I definitely think he’s taken the club forward, and although he’s made some big mistakes he seems to learn from them. He was a great appointment, and I am confident that the general trend is upward and will keep rising.

Garrincha: I admire his ability to meld a team out of the dregs he has had to buy.

A lot has been said about the increasing bitterness between red and blue in recent years. Have you experienced anything at close hand? Is it over hyped or is it becoming worse?

anthonyjevans: I think there’s a distinction between the disciplinary record on the pitch, and what happens off it. I think the derby is becoming increasingly important for both clubs, but don’t think that rivalry will ever cause a division between Everton and Liverpool fans generally.

Garrincha: It is getting noticeably worse. That :censored: in the upper Anny didn’t help matters catching a little girl in the face with a coin but we have our own problems. Generally most supporters of both sides get on but it doesn’t take much these days for it to kick off.

The whole ground share debate is most definitely closed our end. What are your feelings on the continuing speculation about goodison’s future?

anthonyjevans: It’d be nice if we had confidence in the board to do the right thing. Ideally we could leave them to get on with it, choose the best site and build a stadium befitting our club. But inevitably it’ll be controversial because no one wants another Riverside. Personally I think the out of town model is in decline, but it’s important we realise that the decision will have a massive long term impact. The Park End shows how short-sightedness will haunt you, we have to wait until we’ve got the resources to do something special

Garrincha: I still believe it is gonna happen. The numbers for it are overwhelming. The political will is also there. Personally, I hate the idea and will never go to a shared stadium. The same goes for an out of town Tescobowl. The day we move outside the city boundaries there will never be another scouser born a blue. You should move out. We were here first and frankly you have lowered the tone of the neighbourhood. 

What sort of line-up will Moyes put out against LFC?

anthonyjevans: I think he’ll stick to the Spurs line up (Davies in for Kilbane) and keep Beattie on the bench. I think he’ll be conservative given our recent record against you. Having said that, I wouldn’t be surprised if he does have two up front – your central defenders look vulnerable. I’ll be interested to see what formation we go with.

Garrincha: Hopefully one keeper who isn’t Dickie Wright. 8 men to give the ball to Arteta and Johnson. Then Arteta and Johnson.

Where do you expect Liverpool to finish in the Premier League?

anthonyjevans: Second or third, but your recent spending has pushed you from being a club happy with Champions League to being one that needs to challenge for the title. I can’t see it though.

Garrincha: They never finish where I expect. Mostly because the PL doesn’t have a 21st place. The LFC squad is better in depth now you have Andy Pandy instead of Clouseau. He can spot a player which was something his predecessor could never do. Not sure the first team is better and your keeper is suspect.

Which Liverpool player will you fear the most – apart from Steven Gerrard?

anthonyjevans: To be honest though I don’t fear much from Birmingham (Pennant), Aston Villa (Crouch), Newcastle (Bellamy), Man City (Fowler), or Middlesbrough (Zendon) misfits. 

Garrincha: Riise. A great player. Seems to have been underrated ever since you got him.

You appear to have signed a decent striker in Andy Johnson. What do you think is Everton’s best attacking formation for the season?

anthonyjevans: I dunno, we’ve got the strikers for 4-4-2, but the midfielders for 4-5-1.

Garrincha: Tricky to say. Anichebe has a first touch akin to Crouch, Beattie is horribly permanently unfit, McFadden is really unreliable. Probably 4-4-1-1 with Cahill lurking.

I might stick a fiver on 3-1 Liverpool with Crouch first goal scorer. What’s your bet?

anthonyjevans: I never bet on the derby… !

Garrincha: 2 sendings off.

Funny you should say that, Graham Poll could be handing out a yellow card or three on Saturday. What are your thoughts on his selection?

Garrincha: The man is a cretin. The goal which never was is just one of many examples. He will doubtless make many more imbecilic decisions which will only increase the tensions. I wouldn't let him adjudicate on Bullseye.

anthonyjevans: NIGHTMARE!!
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Postby Ace Ventura » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:24 am

After thinking about this game and Moyes's tactics i would be inclined to go for a total change in tactics.
With the likely omissions of Carragher and Riise i would play this team.


                             Reina

                Finnan    Hyypia   Agger

                              Alonso
Pennant                                            Aurellio

                       Gerrard Sissoko

                       Kuyt       Fowler

The reasons for this is that imo Moyes will play Johnson on his own upfront and he runs the channels, Agger and Finnan should be good enough to marshall him and even if they are not there is still big Sami in the centre.
There's no real point in playing full backs as Everton wont be playing any natural wide players that will go outside and try and get to the byline. Three at the back when there is only one striker might seem like a waste but Cahill will break and Arteta will come inside, plus when in posession it will allow Agger to carry it forward.
The midfield you cant leave out Alonso Gerrard or Sissoko and i would play Pennant as i think he would take Naysmith the cleaners (especially as the scot played a full 90 minutes on a boggy pitch in midweek) he may play Valente but i doubt it.
In attack i'd go with the freshest two despite Crouch's fantastic form, Fowler will be desperate to play and Kuyt looked fantastic in his cameo against West Ham, that team would win imo.

Thoughts ?
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Postby Sabre » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:29 am

Rafael Benitez, who, rumour in Spain has it, eats his own shi.te



WTF? should I understand this literrally? :D
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Postby stmichael » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:35 am

Ace Ventura wrote:After thinking about this game and Moyes's tactics i would be inclined to go for a total change in tactics.
With the likely omissions of Carragher and Riise i would play this team.


                             Reina

                Finnan    Hyypia   Agger

                              Alonso
Pennant                                            Aurellio

                       Gerrard Sissoko

                       Kuyt       Fowler

The reasons for this is that imo Moyes will play Johnson on his own upfront and he runs the channels, Agger and Finnan should be good enough to marshall him and even if they are not there is still big Sami in the centre.
There's no real point in playing full backs as Everton wont be playing any natural wide players that will go outside and try and get to the byline. Three at the back when there is only one striker might seem like a waste but Cahill will break and Arteta will come inside, plus when in posession it will allow Agger to carry it forward.
The midfield you cant leave out Alonso Gerrard or Sissoko and i would play Pennant as i think he would take Naysmith the cleaners (especially as the scot played a full 90 minutes on a boggy pitch in midweek) he may play Valente but i doubt it.
In attack i'd go with the freshest two despite Crouch's fantastic form, Fowler will be desperate to play and Kuyt looked fantastic in his cameo against West Ham, that team would win imo.

Thoughts ?

i don't really see why we need to play three centre backs when the likelihood is that they'll go with only johnson upfront. why do you need three guys to mark one man?

i'm also not convinced about pennants defensive qualities in that formation. yes i know 70% of a wing back's play is about going forward but you've also got to do your share of defensive work aswell.

on the positive side it is yet another way of getting more attacking players in the side. this is why rafa gets paid so much money to make these decisions. :D
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Postby Ace Ventura » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:44 am

stmichael wrote:i don't really see why we need to play three centre backs when the likelihood is that they'll go with only johnson upfront. why do you need three guys to mark one man?

i'm also not convinced about pennants defensive qualities in that formation. yes i know 70% of a wing back's play is about going forward but you've also got to do your share of defensive work aswell.

on the positive side it is yet another way of getting more attacking players in the side. this is why rafa gets paid so much money to make these decisions. :D

You sort of answered your own problem there St, Pennant will not be defending alot so Finnan may come out further than the right sided defender would when usually playing this formation, with Alonso dropping deeper if needed to cover (which he does anyway)
If we are in posession it gives us extra bodies all over the pitch, and when we lose posession the attacking players just tuck back in.
With Crouch Bellamy and Gonzalez as subs we cant fail.
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Postby bigmick » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:50 am

I wouldn't play with three centre-backs either, for the same reasons that St Mike has highlighted. Johnson will probably play uptop on his own and I fully expect everton to play 4-5-1 with Cahill being at the point of the central midfield three.
In truth, though they would never admit it Everton would definately take a point. A point Home or away off the top four is not a bad result for them and they know that anything less than a win for us (because we didn't beat Sheffield United :cool: ) could see us scrambling around a long way off the pace.
As I said a couple of weeks back, a draw here and then anything less than a win Away at Chelsea would see the leaders building up a nice cushion on us. Fortunately, I think we will have too much for them as despite their undoubted fighting qualities the gulf in class and quality is massive.
It's 4-4-2 for me, with the bionic man Sissoko doing the work of two men in the centre and freeing up Gerrard on the right to do the destroying. I fancy he will start with Kuyt uptop and these two hold the key for me. Get them on the ball and we will win, 2-1.
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:58 am

THE LAUGHING POLICEMAN

It happened down at Goodison, not so long ago
The Everton fans were singing, Howard Kendall he must go
But then he won a trophy, and he was Everton's pride
You two-faced Everton b@stards, you're the sh.it on Merseyside!!!
Ohhh, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha...

There was a local manager, not so long ago
The Everton fans were singing, Colin Harvey he must go
And then they lost at Bramall Lane, so they gave the kunt the sack
But six days later, and they brought the fu.cker back!!!
Ohhh, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha...

There was a local derby, not so long ago
The Everton fans were singing, the songs that they all know
Then Dalglish scored a brilliant goal, but they said it was offside
But we don't give a sh.it because we scored fu.cking five!!!
Ohhh, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha...

And then they won a trophy and things were looking bright
30,000 Evertonians appeared overnight
But wait until the bubble bursts you know were they will be
Right back down in the sewers were they were in 83'
Ohhh, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha...

CMON U MIGHTY REDMEN, LETS TW@T THESE BITTER B@STARDS
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Postby 66-1112520797 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:58 am

Ace Ventura wrote:After thinking about this game and Moyes's tactics i would be inclined to go for a total change in tactics.
With the likely omissions of Carragher and Riise i would play this team.


                             Reina

                Finnan    Hyypia   Agger

                              Alonso
Pennant                                            Aurellio

                       Gerrard Sissoko

                       Kuyt       Fowler

The reasons for this is that imo Moyes will play Johnson on his own upfront and he runs the channels, Agger and Finnan should be good enough to marshall him and even if they are not there is still big Sami in the centre.
There's no real point in playing full backs as Everton wont be playing any natural wide players that will go outside and try and get to the byline. Three at the back when there is only one striker might seem like a waste but Cahill will break and Arteta will come inside, plus when in posession it will allow Agger to carry it forward.
The midfield you cant leave out Alonso Gerrard or Sissoko and i would play Pennant as i think he would take Naysmith the cleaners (especially as the scot played a full 90 minutes on a boggy pitch in midweek) he may play Valente but i doubt it.
In attack i'd go with the freshest two despite Crouch's fantastic form, Fowler will be desperate to play and Kuyt looked fantastic in his cameo against West Ham, that team would win imo.

Thoughts ?

Honestly Ace, I like the players you've picked. Personally I dont like three Ch's, but thats me. I really can't argue with the formation though, because if Riise were fit I'd have him at LB and Aurelio in front. But because JAR isnt fit, and although I'm not fully convinced of Aurelio at LB I'd still play the Brazillian there. But that would mean Gonzo coming into midfield. And at the moment this isnt the game Gonzo needs, that may sound silly. But he looks short of confidence at the moment and too lightweight for the derby to me, (maybe next one).
As I said though I dont like three at the back and I know that players are drilled at adapting systems and what not. But I dont think we should be changing formations yet especially with the new boys, and considering the match.

So I'd go for something like this :

                              Reina
        Finnan    Hyypia   Agger  Aurelio

        Pennant  Alonso  Gerrard  Zenden

                     Kuyt   Fowler

I can almost hear you laughing at the sound of leaving Momo out. I know the bloke is built for games like this & Rafa will probably play him. But he's just coming back from injury, and also we have PSV and Chelsea coming up so I dont think its worth the risk. Zenden isnt the greatest player, but hes able to do the job and experianced, I'm thinking with this formation him and Stevie could mix it up a bit and change positions, so Stevie can get down the flank. At the moment I cant think of anyone else who can come in and hold his own in left Mid. So I've opted for Zenden just this once  :D  . If it were anyone else we were playing against I'd give Gonzo the go, even against Arsenal ManU. But Neverton, they're more likely to want to kick ten bucketts of s.hit outta him.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:04 pm

I understand that Carra is back in training and looks ready for Saturday, Steve Finnans dead leg has cleared up and there where no injuries reported back from international duty.

Bring it on ....
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Postby bigmick » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:14 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:I understand that Carra is back in training and looks ready for Saturday, Steve Finnans dead leg has cleared up and there where no injuries reported back from international duty.

Bring it on ....

If Carragher is fit then that's a massive plus. Johnson is a clever striker and while he hasn't got an electric burst of pace, he picks the flight of balls going accross the box very early and commits to the space at full pelt. Defenders need to be schooled in the basic arts of getting right side, not switching off etc etc in a word defending.
Carra is the best out and out defender we've got, probably bettered only by John Terry in the whole league. If he plays it won't be 2-1, make it 2-0   :;):
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Postby Ace Ventura » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:16 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:I understand that Carra is back in training and looks ready for Saturday, Steve Finnans dead leg has cleared up and there where no injuries reported back from international duty.

Bring it on ....

I hope thats right, he is the chief organiser of the back four, as well as being the person that gets the other players going.

Lets hope he's playing !
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Postby stmichael » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:31 pm

Also, Everton are suspect at the back. They might have won at Spurs, drew with Blackburn and beat Watford but they look like they are going to concede goals. They will struggle to deal with pace getting in behind them. I mean David Weir makes Sami Hyypia look like William Gallas in speed terms. Nuno Valente is p#ss poor and "England's next left back" Tony Hibbert is just a dirty ba$tard.
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Postby desperado0831 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:03 pm

I can't really know who can score for them in tomorrow match.

2 goals to nil should be good for us.
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Postby redsince2001 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:08 pm

2-0 to us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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