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by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:58 am

I think Gallas has made the right move. At Chelsea he was never the best centre-back and for some reason I think that bothered him. Playing for Arsenal he can be safe in saying he is the best defender at the club now.

by **Ace Ventura** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:07 pm

It was Mcmahon and it was for England in a friendly, England scored a goal when a player was down injured i think so Macca from the kick off dribbled through a couple of his own players and slotted it past the keeper.
A bit of a bizarre one, and i dont remember who it was against.

by **EddieC** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:59 pm

I don't believe this for a second. Sh!tski are just trying to save face after saying they wouldn't let him go then changing their minds. I never minded Gallas, best of a bad bunch & all that, if there's no truth in this he should sue them for slander.

by **The Red Baron** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:01 pm

EddieC wrote:if there's no truth in this he should sue them for slander.

Theres been some debate about this today in all of the newspapers, and radio stations.The thing that suprises me most is that most people are saying Gallas is bang out of order.We have only heard one side of this although Gallas has denied Chelseas claims.
I seem to remember Chelsea issuing statments that "The special one had" had seen Rijard in the referees dressing room when they were beaten by Barca.This was proved to be a fabrication of the truth,or as I prefer to call it a lie.
When Ashley Cole was tapped up "The special one "claimed he was in Portugal at the time,this was later proved to be another lie.Leeds united are claiming that 2 of their youth players were tapped up by Chelsea and consequently moved to Stamford Bridge.Chelsea deny this and its now the subject of an enquiry.
The point Iam making is Chelsea are no strangers to lying and cheating why should we believe them now.The allegations levelled at Gallas are very serious,he has denied them,if he didnt make these threats he has no other option than to take them to court.There might be a problem finding12 honest men for a jury if they have anything to do with Chelsea.
Does it suprise anybody that Chelsea hit the Headlines again in international week,when they havent been on the backpages for a couple of days.

by **zarababe** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:28 pm

A taste of there own medicine, this is come-uppence for all the players they have unsettled, not just Stevie G , but look at how both Essien and Cole behaved.. dispicable :angry:

Got no class, the bubble is-a-bursting.. and he won't be the last.. just keep watchin all :nod

by **48-1119859832** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:45 am

I think this is Chelsea football club lashing out at Gallas because they are upset he's taken off to Arsenal. I can't see Gallas saying "let me leave or I'll score an own goal". He doesn't seem like an unprofessional player. Although if he did say it then I can't blame him, it's no secret that Chelsea use bully tactics to get what they want, so all credit to Gallas if he did infact say that.

by **Judge** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:18 pm

Oasis wrote:im a buttplug

is that what you meant

:Oo:

by **48-1119859832** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:01 pm

by **Bad Bob** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:10 pm

s@int wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:Don't know if this is just paper talk or not but I like the precedent that Gallas, and Crespo before him, have set: more interested in playing first-team football in their preferred position (in Gallas's case) than in collecting the paycheque and lapping up the limelight at Chelsea. Hopefully a few other talented but marginalized members of their squad will see the light and take a similar stand.

While I agree with your sentiments of players wanting first team football in their preferred position, the consequencies of Gallas's alledged actions may be far less agreeable. Are contracts now only to be honoured as long as a player is happy at a club, and as soon as he isn't, be it for money, honours or playing time, he threatens to score own goals to obtain his freedom?
Gerrard was rumoured to be going to Chelsea, and scored a own goal in the League cup final against Chelsea, how would you feel if you found out it had been deliberate( which it definately was not) and used to force Liverpools hand.
Are contracts now just insurance against injury or lack of ability, to be used as with Diao to force Liverpool to keep paying him, or as with Rednapp/Kewell to ensure their wages whilst injured, and then walk away (or let go).
Loyalty has almost become a thing of the past in modern football, if contracts arnt worth the paper they are printed on, what have we left? Players who will leave at the first scent of more money or cups, and fans that have no feeling or respect for the players.
At Chelsea its funny, in football its a disgrace.

Fair point, Saint, and I broadly agree. I was well mad at Gerrard for contemplating a switch to Chelsea and we all know how Michael Owen's popularity has plummeted round these parts for simply not signing another contract. The current climate certainly encourages players to be mercenaries and Gallas's tactics (the refusal to join the team in America, not the "own goal" rubbish that Chelsea surely have made up to save face) are just the latest in a long string of such strategies--strategies that will no doubt continue for the foreseeable. It's a fairly sad state of affairs, to be honest. Players should never be "slaves" to their clubs but, conversely, contracts should mean something.

Having said all that, I can live with the fact that, as far as Chelsea are concerned, I have a strong double standard and the principles go out the window as I wallow in their problems. Reason being that they don't deign to operate by the same rules as the rest of the footballing world so they deserve things that other clubs do not--things like Prima Donna millionaire footballers jumping ship regardless of contract and calling them "classless" in the press!

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:34 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
s@int wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:Don't know if this is just paper talk or not but I like the precedent that Gallas, and Crespo before him, have set: more interested in playing first-team football in their preferred position (in Gallas's case) than in collecting the paycheque and lapping up the limelight at Chelsea. Hopefully a few other talented but marginalized members of their squad will see the light and take a similar stand.

While I agree with your sentiments of players wanting first team football in their preferred position, the consequencies of Gallas's alledged actions may be far less agreeable. Are contracts now only to be honoured as long as a player is happy at a club, and as soon as he isn't, be it for money, honours or playing time, he threatens to score own goals to obtain his freedom?
Gerrard was rumoured to be going to Chelsea, and scored a own goal in the League cup final against Chelsea, how would you feel if you found out it had been deliberate( which it definately was not) and used to force Liverpools hand.
Are contracts now just insurance against injury or lack of ability, to be used as with Diao to force Liverpool to keep paying him, or as with Rednapp/Kewell to ensure their wages whilst injured, and then walk away (or let go).
Loyalty has almost become a thing of the past in modern football, if contracts arnt worth the paper they are printed on, what have we left? Players who will leave at the first scent of more money or cups, and fans that have no feeling or respect for the players.
At Chelsea its funny, in football its a disgrace.

Fair point, Saint, and I broadly agree. I was well mad at Gerrard for contemplating a switch to Chelsea and we all know how Michael Owen's popularity has plummeted round these parts for simply not signing another contract. The current climate certainly encourages players to be mercenaries and Gallas's tactics (the refusal to join the team in America, not the "own goal" rubbish that Chelsea surely have made up to save face) are just the latest in a long string of such strategies--strategies that will no doubt continue for the foreseeable. It's a fairly sad state of affairs, to be honest. Players should never be "slaves" to their clubs but, conversely, contracts should mean something.

Having said all that, I can live with the fact that, as far as Chelsea are concerned, I have a strong double standard and the principles go out the window as I wallow in their problems. Reason being that they don't deign to operate by the same rules as the rest of the footballing world so they deserve things that other clubs do not--things like Prima Donna millionaire footballers jumping ship regardless of contract and calling them "classless" in the press!

I agree Chelsea are a separate issue than the rest of football. How they manage to keep shooting themselves in the foot amazes me. Mourinho says that anyone who wants to can leave, then tells Gallas he has to stay. The whole A.Cole affair, the Michal Obi and Leeds fiascos, the list just goes on and on, and so it seems do the lies and inuendo. They are fast becoming/are a disgrace to football. Lets hope a few more of their unhappy stars follow suit and ask to leave.

by **Judge** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:53 pm

Oasis wrote:

see i dont mean owt by it

laughter is good for the soul

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:02 pm

Judge wrote:
Oasis wrote::laugh:

see i dont mean owt by it

laughter is good for the soul

Badbob and I spend hours creating a masterpiece of analysis on the decline of footballing standards as regards Chelsea,only to be interupted by you and your laughter is good for the soul motto :angry:

You didnt even have the decency to provide a picture of a half naked dancing girl!

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