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by **adamnbarrett** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:51 am

The top 3 resemble this saying from a banner I saw in Cardiff:

'Shankly laid the foundations, Paisley built the house and now Rafa is doing the garden'

by **Ace Ventura** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:25 am

Ace Ventura wrote:What a difficult decision, to select a manager in our history is too difficult, but are we all still reds ?

WTF is that all about

I should not log on when :censored:

By the way how did the power come 10th :laugh:

by **red37** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:46 am

for me, the five most inspirational and effective gaffers are:

1. shanks
2. paisley
3. fagan
4. dalglish
5. rafa

the rest have in some shape or form added to the whole.

by **lakes10** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:57 pm

s@int wrote:only one I would argue about is that Fagan should be above Houllier. Shankly and Paisley were both great managers so I wouldnt have a problem whichever was voted top.

spot on , no way was Houllier better than Fagan.

by **lakes10** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:59 pm

red37 wrote:for me, the five most inspirational and effective gaffers are:

1. shanks
2. paisley
3. fagan
4. dalglish
5. rafa

the rest have in some shape or form added to the whole.

good call, thats more like it.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:47 pm

azriahmad wrote:In his first season, Paisley did not win anything. Then he bought a few players, tweaked the team a little bit and we won the First Division title and the UEFA Cup. The following season, we tetained the league title and added the European Cup and was cruelly denied an FA Cup treble with a deflected goal in the final with manure.

In 1977/78, Paisley did a massive overhaul of the team by buying the three Jocks and Liverpool went on the greater heights.

To say that Paisley merely built on Shanks' foundation would be to underestimate the great man. He was his own man, did it his own way and was very humble to boot. He conquered Europe in a way Shanks failed to do and his record of 6 championships in only 9 seasons in charge is an astounding 66.7% league championship success rate which no one has managed to come close to. Fagan inherited a great Paisley team and managed a unique treble in his first year in charge. The final season of Fagan's season as Gaffer, we failed to adapt to the departure of Graeme Souness and started the season poorly although we rallied to finish second to neverton and reached the European Cup final.

One of Paisley's greatest abilities was to seamlessly replace key players without a hitch at all and strengthened his squad at the end of every season. Among the greats that he replaced successfully were Kevin Keegan with Kenny Dalglish, Ray Clemence with Bruce Grobbelaar, Phil Thompson with Mark Lawrenson, Graeme Souness replaced the tireless Ian Callaghan, Alan Hansen was so good that he forced the then captain Emlyn Hughes to be relocated to full back. He also did a blinder of a conversion - switching Ray Kennedy from a striker to a great goascoring left-sided midfielder.

Make no mistake, Shanks is a Liverpool legend of a manager, but Bob Paisley is the greatest bar none.

good post mate, whilst shanks is an absolute legend and dragged this club out of the gutter its also wrong to assume that bob didnt also perform a similar transition in his own way.
shanks took a second division club into the top flight, won the league and f.a cup a few times and turned us into a powerhouse. he was unlucky in 65 not to get to a european cup final but he did win the uefa cup.
bob took a side that was always challenging for the title to a side that always won the title, and he took a team with one uefa cup win under its belt into the most dominant side in europe.
when you feel the pride well up inside when you sing ` we`ve won it five times`, well the quiet geordie had a lot to say in that particular number.

by **Kharhaz** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:06 am

Theres no doubt that Bob Paisley is miles ahead of anyone in terms of trophys won and his overall awarenes on how teams should be run, (if Jose is the special one what would that make Bob??) but my point is if it wasnt for the great Bill Shankley, Bob Paisley wouldnt have got that far, i dont think people realise just what he did for the club. He turned us around make no mistake we were heading south ! he took us back up north and created the atmosphere, the attitude, the mentality, and above all the love of the fans to make an ordinary club great. In terms of todays standards, when winning means everything lets not forget the simpler times when winning a game was a job in itself! William "Liverpool" Shankly deserves every trophy any manager wins at this club because he made Liverpool what they are now.

by **Effes** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:21 am

The way I look (and most of you lot, looking at the posts) at it is that both men did a different job,

If I was a Leeds fan now I would want a Shankly.

If I was a Spurs fan, I would want a Paisley.

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