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by **stmichael** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:52 pm

it's common knowledge that certain players and members of the board do not want o'neill at liverpool.

by **woof woof !** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:54 pm

John Barnes' Granny wrote:Apparently Martin O' Neill is not a contender becuase he had a bit of a row with Rick Parry over the telephone a few months ago in relation to the O' Neill/Houllier spat.

Was that when they wanted him to come out and deny the press speculation that he was interested in the job ? I heard that even Houllier phoned himasking him to do the same. Pity if Parry lets personal feelings get in the way . Mind you , it wouldn't be the first time.

by **stmichael** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:56 pm

there's something seriously wrong with the PR at our football club. information is leaked too easily to the press. you don't see the same happening at arsenal and manure do you? with us information spills out that this manager is not liked by this board member etc etc.

by **JBG** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:59 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
John Barnes' Granny wrote:Apparently Martin O' Neill is not a contender becuase he had a bit of a row with Rick Parry over the telephone a few months ago in relation to the O' Neill/Houllier spat.

Was that when they wanted him to come out and deny the press speculation that he was interested in the job ? I heard that even Houllier phoned himasking him to do the same. Pity if Parry lets personal feelings get in the way . Mind you , it wouldn't be the first time.

Yeah.

Apparently O' Neill had a spat on the phone with Parry over allegedly not doing enough to distance himself from the Liverpool job back in January. O' Neill then allegedly wrote a snotty letter to Parry which enclosed many newspaper clippings of him telling the press than he was staying at Celtic.

I haven't heard anything of certain players being against him though: can anyone elaborate?

by **Scottbot** » Tue May 25, 2004 4:05 pm

O'neil is still my 1st choice. I don't believe Parry would let an argument that happened 6 months ago cloud his judgement. O'neil's style of play has been called into question. I have watched Celtic over the last few years and i don't see the problem. It's not silky smooth but they generally play the ball out from the back and keep it on the deck. The wing-backs play as out an out wingers most of the time and his teams get in a lot of good crosses. Something we haven't done for the last 2 years. I have been speaking to Celtic fans on their message boards the last couple of days. They say they have seen some great football played by O'neil teams both at home and in Europe.

If not O'neil, then Mourinho would be my 2nd choice. The guy seems very very focussed, prepares his teams thoroughly and has enjoyed a lot of success in a very short space of time. Plus he has learned from the likes of Bobby Robson and Loius Van Gaal.
It does seem strange that no one has called Mourinho's style of play into question. As stated on this thread. His teams play a high tempo pressing game and score a lot of their goals on the break. Not that dissimilar to O'neil teams.

by **simic_ie** » Tue May 25, 2004 4:08 pm

There is absolutley nothin wrong with playing a high tempo counter-attacking style of football as long as the team is capable of breaking down teams that sit bac and try t defend a lead.. something Liverpool under GH were not capable most of the time

by **Stan Laurel** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:21 pm

anfieldadorer wrote:Mourinho had been quoted at the weekend as wanting to follow in the footsteps of the likes of Liverpool legends Bob Paisley and Bill Shankly in leaving his mark in the annals of football management.

"I want people to remember me as one of the all-time great managers," he said. "I want to leave my mark in football history and be remembered like Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and Matt Busby.

"I loved the way Liverpool played in the 1970s and 1980s. I loved Kenny Dalglish, Graeme Souness, Phil Thompson, Ray Clemence and Ian Rush. Now I want the same success."

Is he's telling the truth about that he loved the way Liverpool played in 70s and 80s?

by **stmichael** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:25 pm

Stan Laurel wrote:Is he's telling the truth about that he loved the way Liverpool played in 70s and 80s?

EXACTLY. any moron can say that. how can anyone not respect what we did in the 70's and 80's?

by **anfieldadorer** » Wed May 26, 2004 3:25 am

I will do it my way or not at all, warns Mourinho

By James Lawton in Gelsenkirchen, 26 May 2004

Jose Mourinho, the brilliant coach Liverpool like and who likes Liverpool but who is believed to have been already bought by Chelsea made it clear that he was still his own man here last night on eve of his greatest challenge.

The 41-year-old Porto coach said that he would reveal his future only after tonight's Champions' League final with a Monaco team coached by the equally desired young football man, Didier Deschamps. But if Mourinho did not plan it as an advertisement for his exceptional football values, that was very much the effect.

In a few crisp sentences he maybe explained why Liverpool would see him as the passionate original who might restore the old Anfield empire and why, in the end, even Roman Abramovich might not have enough money to persuade him to do his kind of business.

The question that provoked Mourinho's vision of how a football club should be run came from the heart of that speculation that he is already the Russian's man. What, he was asked, would he do if, perhaps like Claudio Ranieri, he was obliged to work with players who were signed over his head. "That is a wonderful question to ask me on Thursday," said Mourinho. "I will have an answer then. But I do believe all success in a football club comes when there is a good relationship between the manager and the board. There was a problem when I was coach at Benfica and I walked out."

Recently Mourinho said how much he admired the Liverpool operation the freedom of the manager to sign his players and do his work with full authority. The firing of Gérard Houllier suggests a marriage made in the football heavens for a player of modest achievement but a coach who has spectacularly reasserted the value of a driven football man with a passionate belief of how the game should be played. Though Chelsea sources insist they have a done deal, they were also confident that they had corralled the services of Sven Goran Eriksson as were Blackburn Rovers when they were still awash with the late Sir Jack Walker's money.

Mourinho insisted that his decision was still a private matter concerning himself and his club president, the devoted Jorge Nuño Pinta da Costa, who has already railed against the overtures of Chelsea, declaring: "We will go to war with Chelsea the attitude of the Russian is the worst I've seen in the world of football." Whether he would give his blessing to Mourinho's departure for Anfield is not on the record, but the more the coach talked the more he sounded like a man impervious to the ultimate temptation of huge money.

"I want happiness in my football club I want players who I trust and who trust me. The greatest thing in my life is when, after I have lost, my children say, 'you are the best daddy.' But then I also like to win football matches."

He believes that tonight's game will be a testament to the boldest and best of football. "In the past we have had the great teams like Milan and Juventus producing a final that in the end was playing for penalties. I respect Monaco, they have shown great character in beating a team like Real Madrid. We also have survived difficulties. Maybe people didn't expect Porto and Monaco in the final, but they are teams who will play with character. I told my players today, all I want is for you to play with your real identity. It is not a matter of tactics. We may play 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 but we will be the same model. Maybe Deschamps would like to know all the details of my team; maybe I would like to know if [Ludovic] Giuly [Monaco's diminutive inspiration] is going to play wide right or as a striker. But in the end it is about how your players go out."

Porto's veteran Carlos Secretario, who played for Real Madrid, says: "Mourinho is brilliant because of his human qualities. He knows how to extract everything a player has." Most strikingly, he has nurtured the talent of the Brazilian-born midfielder Deco. "He is at the heart of our team, and I think he will have a very big game," said the coach.

Deco is expected to join Mourinho wherever he goes. He is a Mourinho player, and he arrived because of the judgement of the coach not an order from upstairs.

The word is that Mourinho will be able to go along with his protégé almost wherever he wants in Europe if he delivers victory tonight. Everywhere, that is, except Juventus, who are said to have already reclaimed their old European Cup-winner Deschamps.

Rarely has the biggest game in European club football attracted such attention to two young coaches. But Mourinho insists: "Always, a good coach is only as good as his players." And, perhaps, the respect he gets from the boardroom.

* Claudio Ranieri received unexpected news yesterday he is still Chelsea's manager. The Italian had feared that a meeting with the club's chief executive, Peter Kenyon, at Stamford Bridge was to tell him he was being dismissed. Surprisingly, rather than discussing Ranieri's future, Kenyon simply wanted to discuss possible transfer dealings during the summer.

by **simic_ie** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:52 am

The more I read about Jose Mouriniho the more impressed I am with him. He seems so well organised and prepared for all eventualities... just listen to his preparation for the Champs Legue final:

"Last Thursday we practised defensive organisation," he said. "On Friday we practised attacking organisation. On Saturday we practised the transition from defence to attack. On Sunday we practised the transition from attack to defence. And on Monday we practised penalties."

It also helps that he gave the Scum fans the ol V sign after Porto knocked em out of the Champs League
:laugh:

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