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by **clik** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:10 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
clik wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
clik wrote:hes a bit better than average, he plays for one of europes best teams maybe not good enough to start for us but a great squad player

and how much would it cost to bring him in as a squad player? probably not cheap. Buying someone like Hargreaves would in no way strenghthen the team.

i never actually said i wanted us to sign him but in my opinion he would strengthen our squad if momo and xabi are injured who do you play? Diao? no

Gerrard?

what in holdin role? are you for real or just jumpin on the "Hargreaves is :censored:

" bandwagon gerrard is wasted in the holding role and we need to replace Didi we must use Gerrards talent in an attackin sense, Hargreaves was englands best player

by **Fowler_E7** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:16 pm

clik wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
clik wrote:
Fowler_E7 wrote:
clik wrote:hes a bit better than average, he plays for one of europes best teams maybe not good enough to start for us but a great squad player

and how much would it cost to bring him in as a squad player? probably not cheap. Buying someone like Hargreaves would in no way strenghthen the team.

i never actually said i wanted us to sign him but in my opinion he would strengthen our squad if momo and xabi are injured who do you play? Diao? no

Gerrard?

what in holdin role? are you for real or just jumpin on the "Hargreaves is " bandwagon gerrard is wasted in the holding role and we need to replace Didi we must use Gerrards talent in an attackin sense, Hargreaves was englands best player

Alonso plays the holding role for Liverpool in case u havnt noticed over the past two years.

For England Carrick should do it as he is far better on the ball than Hargreaves.

by **clik** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:20 pm

yes and he does it wonderfully well BUT if xabi and momo are missin we are left short of cover all our midfielders are attackin minded are you sayin we dont need cover or that you dont rate Hargreaves.

by **Fowler_E7** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:31 pm

clik wrote:yes and he does it wonderfully well BUT if xabi and momo are missin we are left short of cover all our midfielders are attackin minded are you sayin we dont need cover or that you dont rate Hargreaves.

if in the worse case scenario, Gerrard, Alonso and Sissoko are injured, then Zenden or a youngster could fill in. The chances of having all our central midfielders injured at the same time are remote, so i doubt we will sign another.

Also i dont really rate Hargreaves, he is a decent player who can fill in several positions but never really excels in any. I doubt u rated Hargreaves before yesterday either.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:37 pm

Got to be 4-4-2, a sacrfice has to made somewhere. Presuming Campbell doesnt get back to his previous level:

Robinson

G.Nevile Ferdinand Terry A.Cole

Gerrard Carrick Lampard J.Cole

Rooney Owen

by **Fowler_E7** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:40 pm

i would go for

Robinson

G.Neville Fedinand Terry A.Cole
Lennon Gerrard Carrick J.Cole
Rooney Owen

by **Lionheart** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:40 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:Got to be 4-4-2, a sacrfice has to made somewhere. Presuming Campbell doesnt get back to his previous level:

Robinson

G.Nevile Ferdinand Terry A.Cole

Gerrard Carrick Lampard J.Cole

Rooney Owen

Don't you set your formation based on your opposition. Will 4-4-2 suit every opposition England plays?? Perhaps not...

:lookaround

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:42 pm

Lionheart wrote:
Cool Hand Luke wrote:Got to be 4-4-2, a sacrfice has to made somewhere. Presuming Campbell doesnt get back to his previous level:

Robinson

G.Nevile Ferdinand Terry A.Cole

Gerrard Carrick Lampard J.Cole

Rooney Owen

Don't you set your formation based on your opposition. Will 4-4-2 suit every opposition England plays?? Perhaps not...

But no other system fits England, thats more important, England havent the right players to play a 4-5-1 or any system with only 1 striker, the key for England is to get the best out of their most important players, and sometimes that means making sacrfices.

by **Fowler_E7** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:42 pm

i chose Lennon, coz the team badly needs an out and out winger, who can beat man and get to the byline and cross, with Gerrard on the right and Cole and left they would both drift in field, leading to a lack of width.

by **Lionheart** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:45 pm

I'd pick a squad of players and then pick my team based on how my opponents played the game. That way I could nulify and conteract their spearhead.

It's not rocket science. But saying I would pick this 11 wihout knowing who your opposition is is just plain stoopid!!

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:48 pm

Lionheart wrote:I'd pick a squad of players and then pick my team based on how my opponents played the game. That way I could nulify and conteract their spearhead.

It's not rocket science. But saying I would pick this 11 wihout knowing who your opposition is is just plain stoopid!!

No its not, when you have some world class players your tactics will be based around getting the best out of them. And of course all managers will have an idea of thier best 11 and best system that will be used 90% of the time, espically when there is only so much you can do about your squad and team as you have to work with the players you are given, maybe your view is more feasible for club management.

by **Lionheart** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:50 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Lionheart wrote:
Cool Hand Luke wrote:Got to be 4-4-2, a sacrfice has to made somewhere. Presuming Campbell doesnt get back to his previous level:

Robinson

G.Nevile Ferdinand Terry A.Cole

Gerrard Carrick Lampard J.Cole

Rooney Owen

Don't you set your formation based on your opposition. Will 4-4-2 suit every opposition England plays?? Perhaps not...

But no other system fits England, thats more important, England havent the right players to play a 4-5-1 or any system with only 1 striker, the key for England is to get the best out of their most important players, and sometimes that means making sacrfices.

Ahhh, so you're going to select important players rather than players who could do a job for you??

Look, which player set the English fans alight at this tournament?? Predominantly Lennon right??

Why??

Because he worked hard, wasn't crippled by an ego and didn't ecpect to do anything other than what was asked of him...essentially he was a TEAM player.

Sven goes on about Rooney being England's saviour. I say this is bullsh.it!!! I probably wouldn't pick Rooney to play for England again unless he pulled his ego into order and gave a cast iron gaurantee to play for England rather than play for Rooney Utd.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:55 pm

Why did you choose to twist my words you dumb :censored:

?

When I said important I meant the best clearly, Lennon did well but he is not top quality yet, yes he did well when coming off the bench against tired players in hot conditions, I don’t want to take anything away from him but people have got carried away about how good he is. Rooney works just as hard as any player on the pitch, and your comments about him show what a dumb@rse you really are.

You pick the combinations of players that you think have the best chance of getting you the right result. And having the likes of Rooney playing in their best positions is key.

by **Lionheart** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:58 pm

Luke, you're putting the cart before the horse. This summer has proven that you can have all the 'world class' players you like but that doesn't mean they're going to do the job for you. If it was that easy, we'd just hand the World Cup to Brasil most years and we could all save our hard earned dollars. Brasil is a team of stars. So is England. Neither is a star team.

Why, because there are too many of them that really just couldn't be bothered. Oh yes, it's be nice to win the world cup and if we can do that with all these dollars in the team, it would be good but if it doesn't happen I'll go back to my team after it's all over and collect my new sports car, get a new wave pool put in, fly of to a Greek Island somewhere and relax while my $$$ roll in. NO PASSION.

Find the lads who'll do the job, who want it. :cool:

by **Lionheart** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:59 pm

Happy to talk and discuss this with you but if you want to just start name calling we'll finish it here. Your choice.

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