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bavlondon wrote:Alonso played well, Garcias loose passing coupled with Joaquins good performance will probably cost him his place in the next match but id expect some changes anyway now that Spain have qualified.
Man i wish we had the money to buy Torres! Wheres thisinvestment already! It seems like last year we were hearing that invesment was "near".
s@int wrote:I thought Alonso was awesome today the way he sprayed the ball out to all areas( more like his Liverpool form) hardly made a bad pass all the game. I had just started feeling sorry for Raul who had looked a peripheral figure when he goes and scores. Typical lol.
Bad Bob wrote:Right, delusional it is then...You see something in Frank Lampard no one else see's. How can you sit there and say Lampard's a good footballer who deserves a place in the England squad. You bring his club into it as usual. Jurgen Macho played for Chelsea, did that make him World Class? Pegguy Arphexad played for Liverpool and won six medals does that make him worthy of being selected for the French squad. Djemba-Djemba played for Man Utd, make him World Class does it?
Frank Lampard STARTS EVERY SINGLE GAME for the two-time English champions and was runner-up for World Footballer of the Year last year. We are not talking about some reserve team waster or washed up has-been here. You can't compare him to fecking Macho, Arphexad or Djemba-Djemba and you know it.The fact of the matter is before Roman & merry millions came along, Lampard was a nothing player, he wasn't in the England squad, the papers didn't mention his name and even Chelsea supporters thought he wasand as for West Ham fans they were glad to have gotten shot of him.
So in comes Roman, they splash out on Makelele, who is basically there to do all the donkey work for Lampard, so Frank can bomb up field and take a good 20 shots on goal and like with Cisse one's bound to sail in. Then when you buy Essien on top that gives Lampard even more stability at the back to roam forward and have lots of shots. He wouldn't be at Chelsea if it wasn't for him being English, he was seen by Ranieri and Mourinho just like John Terry the core of the Chelsea team, the heart of the Chelsea team.
Lampard would be a nothing player had Chelsea not bought Makelele, it's a simple fact. Lampard made it into the England team on a regular basis in 2003, what happened that year? Oh yeah Roman came in and Ranieri bought Makelele.
Lampard was no mug prior to Roman's arrival: he was a talented midfielder who was coming of age. Ranieri thought highly enough of him to have him start every game and Mourinho has continued that trend. If he was as sh!te as you suggest, don't you think he'd have been replaced by now--especially since Chelsea have the deep pockets to buy whoever they like? And, don't give me the "it's because he's English" rubbish--Wenger has demonstrated that top managers won't field English players just because...they have to be worthy of their place.
As for the Makelele/Essien argument, I agree to a point: they have made Lampard better buy allowing him to focus on getting forward. However, we can make a similar argument about Alonso/Sissoko freeing up Gerrard. It's no coincidence that Stevie scored 20 goals for us this season, with those two chipping in the middle of the park.
Again, to clarify, Gerrard is TWICE the player Lampard is but that doesn't make Lampard sh!te.f Lampard is as great as you say he is, then why doesn't he swap positions with Gerrard? Let Lampard defend and Gerrard roam uptop? After all Frank Lampard is such a great player, ain't that right, Bob?
Never said he was great...only said he was worthy of a place in this England squad. Lampard can't do the holding role--as many have noted (a point I've never disputed)--on his day he can get you goals and that's obviously what Sven's banking on. Since he seems to be out of form at the moment, though, I'd consider dropping him for Carrick to let Gerrard roam.
Let me be clear about this: I am no fan of Lampard's. I think he's vastly overrated and lacks the all-round game that would make him a truly "world class" player. But, to sit there and suggest that he doesn't even deserve a place in the England squad is ridiculous. I've got no beef with people who criticize his performance over the last two games: he's been woeful, end of. But it simply goes too far to say he shouldn't be in the squad (who should be in Germany in his place then?). And, to suggest that you are I could do his job better than him is so laughable that I assumed you were joking until you repeated yourself. Your head needs checking, son.
As for the insults...you'll get over them and I've seen you take the p!ss with plenty of others on here so...pot, kettle, black...you get the picture.
I'll discuss Ferdinand another time...
0asis wrote:Lampard starts every game because like him or not, he's got a decent shot, but that's all, I don't see him tracking back, defending, creating chances for others. The truth is Frank Lampard is playing professional becoz his dad was a Scout for West Ham, that's all. I watch Lampard and all he does, perhaps three or four passes a match and takes about twenty shots on goal in which one or two might sale in.
I can compare him to those players, because he's as good as them, he offers nothing that Gerrard doesn't offer, I'd happily accept Lampard being in the England team if he was a better player than Gerrard or was a better attacking player than Gerrard but he's not, he should be on the bench or on stand by. He's only in the England team because the scummy tabloids kiss his a.rse. It's no secret that Sven goes along with what the media want. It's the media who run England, and Frank is a hot favourite with those trash rags.
Lampard is a very basic midfielder who excels in virtually nothing, for every attribute he can pull off effectively there's always one or two midfielder who can pull it much better and that's a fact.
Yeah Gerrard did get help from Sissoko and Alonso, but Gerrard brings so much to the table. He's a leader, he's loyal, he's a better footballer than Lampard. The only thing Lampard offers is shots on goal and even at times that looks way above his station.
It's not laughable to suggest that Lampard's not good enough to be in the England squad. There are quite a few players who you could question them being in the England squad. I don't believe this England squad currently in the World Cup is the best team iof English players, just because a player plays for a big club or a club that challenges for major honours doesn't mean they are great players. You gonna tell me Sean Dundee, Mario Stanic were good players? Sam Delle Bona too?
0asis wrote:You gonna tell me Sean Dundee, Mario Stanic were good players? Sam Delle Bona too?
0asis wrote:Beckham, Hargreaves, Robinson, Ferdinand and Lampard should all be dropped.
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