Our forum choice - On the best manager ever

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Our forum choice - On the best manager ever

Bill Shankly
25
34%
Bob Paisley
38
51%
Kenny Dalglish
0
No votes
Gerard Houllier
0
No votes
Rafael Benitez
11
15%
Another (pls specify)
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 74

Postby RUSHIE#9 » Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:15 pm

I've gone for Bob Paisley simply based on the trophies he put in the cupboard for us. Without doubt everything that is special about LFC came about from Bill Shankly. The early success that Bob had will have some links with Shanks' legacy but the later success like the back to back european cups in 77&78 was all down to Bob Paisley in my eyes.

My all time top 5 would be:

1. Bob Paisley
2. Bill Shankly
3. Joe Fagan & Kenny Dalglish
4. Rafa Benitez
5. Gerard Houllier

I'd rate Fagan & Kenny about the same simply because Joe Fagan only lasted 2 seasons and Kenny because he wasn't tested on a European level. As for the rest well it speaks for itself really; at the current rate of progression i've no doubt that Rafa will be moving up the order of greatest managers we've ever had.
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Postby Mark 23 » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:07 pm

anfieldadorer wrote:as you see, this thread is inspired by the other made by woof

i would presume that most of you would put shankly on the first place. but i'd love to see how many of you would put the other manager on your number one choice.

meself vote for rafa being our best manager so far.
shankly needed about 11 years to put us on european stage from "being nothing", while rafa took only less than a year to lift us from broken-into-pieces-team inherited by previous confused-manager.

i expected, as everyone might, that a "normal" manager would cost it some price before success is achieved, but rafa has made it as if you didn't need to learn to walk before you run (sorry, bad example :no ).

rafa has been on the right track so far and hasn't even entered the main room to explore yet. i believe there would be many more achievements in the near future. You can't expect more from a manager who spend less money to lift us up to the highest place on the most glorious and prestigious european stage even before his first year of reign completed.

That is unbelievable, you rate Rafa as the best after 18 months in charge just because he won the CL.

For me its Shankly & Paisley at the top.  I believe Rafa has the mentality and ability to be remembered as a great in the future.
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Postby BOODIDDY » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:59 pm

shankly was the god who created. Paisley was jesus and rafa is like the pope preaching the gospel.

Sorry, 1 Shankly  2 Paisley 3 Benitez
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:10 pm

Shanks laid the foundation but Bob built the house .

Bob Paisley for me .  :buttrock
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Postby ste123lfc » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:17 pm

RUSHIE#9 wrote:I've gone for Bob Paisley simply based on the trophies he put in the cupboard for us. Without doubt everything that is special about LFC came about from Bill Shankly. The early success that Bob had will have some links with Shanks' legacy but the later success like the back to back european cups in 77&78 was all down to Bob Paisley in my eyes.

My all time top 5 would be:

1. Bob Paisley
2. Bill Shankly
3. Joe Fagan & Kenny Dalglish
4. Rafa Benitez
5. Gerard Houllier

I'd rate Fagan & Kenny about the same simply because Joe Fagan only lasted 2 seasons and Kenny because he wasn't tested on a European level. As for the rest well it speaks for itself really; at the current rate of progression i've no doubt that Rafa will be moving up the order of greatest managers we've ever had.

Wot no souness  :D  :laugh:
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Postby Mikz » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:21 pm

Shanks ,Paisley and Fagan...the holy trinity :bowdown
But if I was pushed for one Id say Bob Paisley,his silverware and the complete manner of the man were second to none.
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Postby The Ace1983 » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:05 pm

No Roy Evans? :D
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Postby 48-1119859832 » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:27 pm

I've gone for Bill Shankly, as he started off the Liverpool revolution, a revolution that would along with Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan would carry on. Altho Bill didn't win the European Championship he did start the Liverpool legacy and helped forge one of football's finest management set ups known as the famous Bootroom.

He was man who was made for Liverpool and Liverpool was a football club made for him, both had big aspirations and a big gentle heart, so they both went hand in hand. So that is why I've gone for Shankly; the revolutionist of Liverpool football club, the man who saw a vision to create a footballing empire that would vastly outlive his legacy and he did just that but take nothing away from Bob who took the reigns and did a fantastic job in carrying on the torch which was passed down and making the flame brighter. And Joe Fagan who in his short time bought about the treble and the first treble in English footballing history.

They were all great, great managers who wore their hearts on their sleeves and gave every ounce of their soul to Liverpool football and that's what made/ makes our club the best on any land.
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Postby taff » Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:46 pm

Crouchamania wrote:the gates for some games when Shanks took over were 25,000 out of a capacity of over 60,000. Apart from an ageing A'Court and Hickson he only had one player-Melia- capable of playing in the then first division. In his first full season he brought through Byrne,Hunt,,then signed Yeats,St John,Milne,Stevenson,Thompson and brought through Callaghan,Smith and Lawler and the rest is history.
     His best decision though was keeping on Paisley-many managers even in those days wanted to bring their own people with them.

There are two things in my view unique about LFC since Shankly came. First, many of the top teams of the early to mid 60's have sunk without trace- e.g.Burnley,Ipswich,Leeds,have gone into decline with moments of glory-Everton and Tottenham,and Man U were relegated:laugh:
We had our bad times in the 90's but these were much better than what the above clubs went through and even then we knew recovery was on the way because we kept producing players like Macca and Robbie and the Liverpool way remained alive. It just needed the right leader,and he's here now.
The second unique thing-and most of you will just have to trust me on this because most of you were too young to be there- is that Shankly established a bond of trust between himself,the players and us supporters. We were one. That relationship estabshed LFC -this is Anfield- and will never be equalled even by Russian billionaires.

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Postby Lando_Griffin » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:27 am

Shankly for me, as the others would never have been here but for him.

We'd be just another League 1 side.
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Postby azriahmad » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:54 am

Anfieldadroer, what about Bob Paisley? If Paisley never became our manager, my choice would have been between Bill Shankly, Kenny and Rafa but it is abit too soon to put Rafa up there. However, he has shown what a great manager he is already, he needs an EPL title to secure his place among the legendary LFC managers before he retires...
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:16 am

anfieldadorer wrote:but he "only" drove a well-overhauled car inherited by shanks

i think you find it should say 'inherited from shanks' but i am just nit picking there.

but annie do you actually believe that statement you made, are you serious when you suggest that Paisley was only succsessful because of the squad he inherited.  or should i be reading it with a hint of sarcasm?


and everyone who cant even spell shankly, remember in future there is no E in the name


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Postby anfieldadorer » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:23 am

peewee wrote:but annie do you actually believe that statement you made, are you serious when you suggest that Paisley was only succsessful because of the squad he inherited.  or should i be reading it with a hint of sarcasm?


of course not, mate

this what i wrote

but he "only"* drove a well-overhauled car inherited by shanks
of course the achievements could ONLY be reached by alikes of his class, but to me the most difficult part is how to build things all over again, which paisley didn't do


*and please notice that the 'only' was in between quotes
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Postby Kukilon » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:05 pm

I'm going to be bold and say Rafa. I have followed his journey from his younger days in Madrid when he coached youth teams to greatness and after that he had a rough spell with two other teams. After that went on to some small clubs in Spain as Extramadura CF and CD Tenerife coach where he performed miracles again. In 2001 he got his real breakthrough when he was apointed to coach a "relative" underdog as Valencia. Valencia basicly crushed teams like Real Madrid and Barcelona and also performed really well in europe.

Just looking at Liverpool I'd say Shankly and Paisley.
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Postby kunilson » Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:59 pm

rafa, cos being alive only 21 years i can see for myself how he has changed the club, not just hear about it, its not the same.

not saying that he is better for LFC than the others mentioned though.....i am aware of the fact that there have been others who have done better for the club, but i couldn't see it for myself, not just highlights of games or articles, but to see how the manager carries himself...how the players/fans respect him, his relationship with other clubs/players etc.
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