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Postby 48-1119859832 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:50 pm

Alfonso Alonso 2006 wrote:If you look at the league table tonight, Man Utd are only 7 points behind chelsea. This is because they won their games in hand.
They have a weakened side, and are playing Giggs and O'shea (a defender!) in centre mid. But can still produce title winning performances and form.

My point is,we are supposed to be stronger now than them, and had we not botched up our games in hand, when we had two games in hand over Man Utd, then we would now be hot on the trail of Chelsea with a real chance of winning the league.

Now we are a good few points behind in 3rd place, with no chance. It was our Own fault!

We are supposedly better than the Mancs, but cannot produce consistent results when it counts.

This is why IMO our season will be a disapointment if we dont get the FA cup.

I blame....sub standard strikers..Cisse, Moro, Crouch, etc and lack of a suitable replacement in the Transfer window in Jan.

Hyypia, now 33..two/three more season left?? CArra same. And next season, Stevie has to perform to the same high standard, like every year.
But for how many seasons can our top players perform until there is a drop in effort/ ability ? it happens to all top players.

If you compare us to the likes of United and Chelsea then you will find yourself popping Prozac, if you had half a brain you would take note of what we were like two seasons ago, last season and this season and you would note to yourself just how far we've come in two short years.

Man Utd have a weakened side, there's no denying that but they have more deadlier finishers in their side and if you look at a lot of there performances it's not been too good has it? sloppy performances and a few lucky goals is what United manage to produce and sooner or later it will bite them on their :censored:.

And who says we're supposed to be stronger than United? I don't think we have a divine right to be better than anyone, the fact is you have to work to achieve goals, aspirations and targets, we have to work for what we want to achieve, we don't have a divine right over anything.

You seem to like stating the obvious as well, any idiot can look at the table and note to themselves that we should of won our games in hand of United and then we would of been a hell of a lot closer to Chelsea and further away from United but we aren't and that's the way things go...deal with it.

Well done you've realised it's our own fault, congrats have a shandy on me. And did you seriously think we would challenge for the title this season? If you did then you were aiming far too high and have finally fallen from cloud nine and landed in horse (s)hit.

I think we've been consistent this season, we just had a bad opening to this campaign but finishing 3rd from last years 5th is quite an achievement even if it's pathetic that we see 3rd place as being an achievement especially when we've always carried the motto "You're either first or you're nothing".

I agree partly with you when you say if we don't win a piece of silverware then our season will be a disappointment but hold on a minute we have won a piece of silverware, we've won the European Super-cup, ok it's not the most creditable piece of silverware we can win but it's still a trophy regardless of the creditibility it holds and how much it's worth but as you say it will indeed be disappointing if we don't hoist the FA Cup this season.

You blame the strikers, which is fair enough, they haven't been banging goals in for fun all season but if you honestly thought that Crouch was a twenty goals a season striker and Nando then you really don't have a clue about what you're talking about. Cisse as much as I don't rate him was basically our only striker who could possibly get twenty goals but as you've seen Rafa doesn't rate him highly, therefore he doesn't get played and we've bought Fowler in who has been our most on form striker and has had three good goals disallowed.

And how can you find decent strikers in the Jan transfer window? You only have a month to find a suitable player and is it really worth it? The answer is probably not.

You mention Hyypia's getting old and he is but we have Daniel Agger as his replacement, you mention Carragher is getting older, he is but that does that mean he's declining in form? Look at Gary Neville for Christ sakes he's 33 and he's still a great defender for United. Age means nothing and whilst some players do indeed decline in ability as they age a lot will not, look at Sheringham he's 40 and he's still going. You gonna tell me he's a (s)hit player?

We also have a youth academy to deal with the aging problem and Rafa and his staff have been searching the globe and signing young talent to replace the players we have now, whilst he's building for the present he's also building for the future.

Fact is your arguments don't wash and they lack decent evidence to back them up. You're just comparing us to United and it simply doesn't wash.
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Postby 65-1140560321 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:25 pm

Im sick of all this "gradual progress" continuous talk.

A load of people were saying the same after 4 years of Gerard Houllier reign, saying.."were making steady progress".

its laughable, and a load of Baloney.

Mourhinio won the league in his first season in Charge, when chelsea were only a top four side previously. he brought in some of his own players, changed things around and was successful. ok he spent a bit, but Liverpool under houllier, and now Rafa have had well over 100m spent.

NOW is the time to win the league, not in 4/5 years time.

Stop making excuses...Next season we should be champions.

next season, we may have an up and down season, and may not neccesarily be as good as this year.

We need proven quality players to win the league, not cheap alternatives. If Rafa goes out in the summer, and buys 3/4 players for 2-5m each,like the likes of Agger/ Kromkamp calibre etc, then i can't see us doing much better than this season.

how about 20-25 m for 2 top drawer players?
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Postby JC_81 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:32 pm

Alfonso Alonso 2006 wrote:Im sick of all this "gradual progress" nonsense.

Werent you guys saying the same after 4 years of Gerard Houllier reign? saying.."were making steady progress".

its laughable, and a load of Baloney.

Mourhinio won the league in his first season in Charge, when chelsea were only a top four side previously. he broguht in some of his own players, changed things around and was successful. ok he spent a bit, but Liverpool under houllier, and now Rafa have had well over 100m spent.

NOW is the time to win the league, not in 4/5 years time.

Stop making excuses.

You're like a bad rash mate

No one on here likes you or respects your opinions, people actually feel sorry for you.  If I was you I'd be extremely embarrassed, because people obviously realise that you've got no mates and are a complete tool.

I've never replied to any of your posts before, but it's getting so cringe-worthy on here whenever you're involved in discussion that I couldn't help myself this time.

In fact, nah, I don't feel sorry for you, it's so bad it's actually funny :D
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Postby Igor Zidane » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:34 pm

Alfonso Alonso 2006 wrote:Im sick of all this "gradual progress" nonsense.

Werent you guys saying the same after 4 years of Gerard Houllier reign? saying.."were making steady progress".

its laughable, and a load of Baloney.

Mourhinio won the league in his first season in Charge, when chelsea were only a top four side previously. he broguht in some of his own players, changed things around and was successful. ok he spent a bit, but Liverpool under houllier, and now Rafa have had well over 100m spent.

NOW is the time to win the league, not in 4/5 years time.

Stop making excuses.

good post totally agree, i bow to your footballing knowledge and reasoned arguements , it all makes sense now. :bowdown
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Postby Flashard » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:35 pm

Alfonso Alonso 2006 wrote:Im sick of all this "gradual progress" nonsense.

Werent you guys saying the same after 4 years of Gerard Houllier reign? saying.."were making steady progress".

its laughable, and a load of Baloney.

Mourhinio won the league in his first season in Charge, when chelsea were only a top four side previously. he broguht in some of his own players, changed things around and was successful. ok he spent a bit, but Liverpool under houllier, and now Rafa have had well over 100m spent.

NOW is the time to win the league, not in 4/5 years time.

Stop making excuses.

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Why do you bother coming on this site. i like to think of it as a way of being able to put views across in a positive way instead of getting at the club for what has been somewhat of an indifferent time. We are the most successful side in the country period and i am a very proud supporter and fed up of readying you bull@hi@e comments please if you have nothing at all positive to say Fuc@ off a support another club. Be a chelski supporter a manc or one of the scum from across the park just Fuc@off.

We have had a good season and i am well happy with the club, there are a few things to get right both on and off the pitch but like a lot of other threads
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Postby 48-1119859832 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:37 pm

Rafa's spent over £100million already? I didn't realise Morientes cost £15million and Alonso cost £50million, bloody hell, I must of been trapped in some time warp. I believe Rafa's most likely spent in the region of £35mill - £40mill. And you can't use the previous manager's amount spent with the current manager that just a no-go and proves why you have such a small and little knowledge with regards to football; you're a clown!

You know your trouble? You're impatient, either that or your on a wind up and looking for a provoked reaction from somebody.

Or you're just plain clueless and believe the world of football is that of Football Manager. It's one of the two.

We did make progress with Houllier 5 trophies in one year, including a treble is one season was progress, however a few dodgy signings undone all of that progress and now we have to start again. It's like an empire, it gets built up and falls and someone else comes in and builds it up again, nothing lasts forever.

Now we come onto Mourinho, Ranieri had already established Chelsea as a dominant force in Europe by getting Chelsea to the semi-finals in the Champions League and getting the runner up spot in the EPL.

Along comes Mourinho who signs a few players but plays with a squad largely made up of Raineri's signings and wins the Carling Cup & EPL. Don't forget Benitez has had to work with far less money and has done very well and unfortunately Liverpool were and still are to some degree behind the likes of Chelsea and United in the league but with each passing match and each passing season we are closing that gap.

Have some patience; grow some balls and chin up.
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Postby JC_81 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:39 pm

0asis wrote:You know your trouble? You're impatient, either that or your on a wind up and looking for a provoked reaction from somebody.

Don't waste your time mate, he's one of these multiple-id wind-up merchants/ losers
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Postby 65-1140560321 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:40 pm

In Rafa we trust?

He's not god you know.

apart from the insults above, no contructive critism about my comments.

If you know anything about LFC, the bread and butter of the club is winning the league title.

But how close are we really.
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Postby 48-1119859832 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:45 pm

There's plenty of well constructive criticism of your posts, you're just to ignorant and up your own a-hole to bother reading them and taking them into account.

With regards to the bread and butter comment, I do believe it was me who quoted the late Bill Shankly was it not?

Look at league table and there lies your answer about how far away we are from winning the league. :;):
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Postby jonnymac1979 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:47 pm

Alfonso Alonso 2006 wrote:In Rafa we trust?

He's not god you know.

apart from the insults above, no contructive critism about my comments.

If you know anything about LFC, the bread and butter of the club is winning the league title.

But how close are we really.

Behave yourself.  Read my PM.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:52 pm

Alfonso Alonso 2006 wrote:In Rafa we trust?

He's not god you know.

apart from the insults above, no contructive critism about my comments.

If you know anything about LFC, the bread and butter of the club is winning the league title.

But how close are we really.

The bread a butter of the club is to win trophies ,and every man woman and woof woof on this forum want us to win the league.You can't say were not progressing when everyone can plainly see that we are. We are a far more consistant side this season. Look at the position in the league and the points tally . The league never lies. We are alot closer this season and be closer again next. I promise you this we will be challenging right until the last ball is kicked ,this season and next.





And by the way Raffa is the new Messiah , i should know i've followed a few.
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Postby kunilson » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:58 pm

think Rafa is making good steady progress with the team, if we didn't have the blip we had a couple of months ago we could have been breathing down chelsea's neck....but im happy with 3rd.
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Postby zarababe » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:20 pm

jonnymac1979 wrote:
Alfonso Alonso 2006 wrote:In Rafa we trust?

He's not god you know.

apart from the insults above, no contructive critism about my comments.

If you know anything about LFC, the bread and butter of the club is winning the league title.

But how close are we really.

Behave yourself.  Read my PM.

With a name like 'Alfonso Alonso' it's so obvious he's a wind-up merchant, why people are arguing with him baffles me  :no

It's like throwing a brick in :censored:.. :sleep

A perfectly decent thread takes a downturn, what a shame

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Postby jonnymac1979 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:30 pm

He got what he wanted by ruining the thread and what he deserved by being banned again.

I can only suggest those who want to contribute to the original thread ideal should just ignore his posts and reply to the decent members.
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Postby drummerphil » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:30 pm

to be honest if we finish 3rd and win the FA cup...........thats a good season in anybodys books in my eyes,especially when you consider for about 15 games we couldnt buy a goal.....
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