Pepe or jerzey? - Who's better?

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Postby ivor_the_injun » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:37 pm

Sweet jesus, how is this thread still active?

Here, in March 2006, Reina is far and away the best keeper we have at the club. And we are talking about a long, long way ahead of the other guys.

Dudek's best game against Reina's best game is a tight contest, I'll admit, but over a sustained fixture list, Dudek just doesn't have anything like the consistency.

Honestly, to anyone that has seen more than one game by the two players, it's an absolute no-brainer.

I do respect people's opinions, but anyone that is answering Dudek to this question is just wrong.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:46 pm

papoose wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Is that right?

Well you aren't a very good one are you?

Any decent Psychiatrist would realise that what you do online does not reflect the real you, and that the vast majority of people are just messing about.
Any decent Psychiatrist would be able to spell "Psychiatrist".

Still - you reckon you are a pro.

Regarding your little love-in with Poolinc, it would not suprise me in the slightest to discover a multi-ID scam here. Are you he?

Or do you just wish to talk out of your bottom? Because, pal, if you were a genuine Psychiatrist, you would have PM'd me, not belittled me infront of a global audience.

These are basic strategies for Psychiatrists, you silly tw*t.  :no

In future, if you wish to try and throw your "academic" weight around, try doing it to someone/thing on a similar intellectual level to yourself.
Like an Ostrich.

And Poolinc - you and your Psychiatrist buddy can insinuate I'm a poof as much as you like. I am above suggestion tactics. Same goes for the Sh*tski cr*p. You wanna be a glory-hunter, or dwell on your fantasy that Dudek is better than Pepe - you go for it. I will insult you.
Any fool would realise that I rip the p*ss out of everyone on here.


Most people have a sense of humour.

I fear you two wouldn't know a joke if it got up and gave you the blow-job you so desperately need.  :nod

I did not PM you because i did not expect a positive attitude from you.. you are still in denial,thinking what you do here and posibly elsewhere-insulting everyone-is normal human behavior.
You first have to admit that you have a problem before you get help and as a fellow fan and friend i will help you even if that means embarassing you infront of everyone...

You do not make any sense.

Did you go to University for your Doctorate?
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Postby Garymac » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:51 pm

Papoose why dont you go on a social workers forum or something, that phycho babble bullsh!t is boring on here we are talking about football for fu*k sake, the fact this thread was even made was ludicrous, never mind made 7 pages, im suprised anyone replied to such a dumb fu*king question.




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Postby 112-1143112803 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:53 pm

ivor_the_injun wrote:Sweet jesus, how is this thread still active?

Here, in March 2006, Reina is far and away the best keeper we have at the club. And we are talking about a long, long way ahead of the other guys.

Dudek's best game against Reina's best game is a tight contest, I'll admit, but over a sustained fixture list, Dudek just doesn't have anything like the consistency.

Honestly, to anyone that has seen more than one game by the two players, it's an absolute no-brainer.

I do respect people's opinions, but anyone that is answering Dudek to this question is just wrong.

totally agree.
Dudek is a fine keeper and has done us great sevice,but he was too inconsistent.. thats why reina was brought in in the first place.
Reina in my opinion is a far better keeper than dudek.. but still we've got to respect players like dudek for their contribution to the club-the CL final as an example- he gave his best for the club and even though his best is in my opinion not good enough for the club... he did enuff to convince alot of supporters that he is a good keeper.. some rate him better than reina and believe that reina is only in the team coz he's spanish.
You just have to respect other peoples opinions as riduculous as they may seem to you -try to reason with them even with light banter, else ignore them.. its the whole point of a forum in the first place.
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Postby Garymac » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:11 pm

Who in the world of football rate Dudek better than Reina, name me one, and i hate anyone saying "he did his best" yes he did and it wasnt good enough, put me in goal for the reds and ill "do me best" its not about doing your best, its about being the best, and Reina has all the potential to be exactly this.

He has every attribute a top goalie should have and i struggle to even think of one area where i could say Dudek was better than him.

Your opinion on Dudek being as good as Reina and that he is only in the team because of his nationality shows how little you know about football.

No offence but your level of football knowledge is truly shocking mate, i mean your clueless to the point you dont really watch it or you are on a wind up.
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Postby Poolinc. » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:32 pm

Garymac wrote:Who in the world of football rate Dudek better than Reina, name me one, and i hate anyone saying "he did his best" yes he did and it wasnt good enough, put me in goal for the reds and ill "do me best" its not about doing your best, its about being the best, and Reina has all the potential to be exactly this.

He has every attribute a top goalie should have and i struggle to even think of one area where i could say Dudek was better than him.

Your opinion on Dudek being as good as Reina and that he is only in the team because of his nationality shows how little you know about football.

No offence but your level of football knowledge is truly shocking mate, i mean your clueless to the point you dont really watch it or you are on a wind up.

why don't you just shorten your post to

"I'm always right and anyone who doesn't agree is an idiot who has absolutely no idea about football!"


'Twould save a lot of time
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Postby Garymac » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:00 pm

No i shouldnt, i just find it hard to believe that anyone who has watched liverpool regulary over the last 5 years will know to compare the 2 of them is laughable.

You can think Dudek is as good as Reina but i know that i am right on this, im not saying im always right but on this i am!

Your entitled to your opinion but it is a joke to compare the 2. Ask any Liverpool suppoter and see what they think.

Fact Reina is better than Dudek. i cant understand anyone questioning this. Seems ridicules, honest fella, i just am struggling to get my head round this topic.
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Postby Poolinc. » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:03 pm

Garymac wrote:No i shouldnt, i just find it hard to believe that anyone who has watched liverpool regulary over the last 5 years will know to compare the 2 of them is laughable.

You can think Dudek is as good as Reina but i know that i am right on this, im not saying im always right but on this i am!

Your entitled to your opinion but it is a joke to compare the 2. Ask any Liverpool suppoter and see what they think.

Fact Reina is better than Dudek. i cant understand anyone questioning this. Seems ridicules, honest fella, i just am struggling to get my head round this topic.

Point taken!
However I never said Dudek was as good as Pepe! I merely questioned is the gulf in class so wide that we should disguard Dudek as we have other keepers in the past! I also stated that I think Dudek has exceptional reflexes and I used his double save from shevshenko as proof positive of this. I firmly believe this was the greatest save ever by any keeper and giving the consequences of it for Liverpool, makes it all the more special. I also stated that I am yet to see a save of exceptional quality from Pepe that demostrated these lightning reflexes, and even went so far as to say that had Pepe been in goal in Istanbul, then he would not have made that save and we would have 4 instead of 5! And again, I think Pepe is great and deserves to be our Number 1 choice, but the way Jerzy has been treated leaves a bad taste in my mouth, that is all.....
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Postby pur3 rav3r » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:24 pm

i think that dudek is a world class keeper but from the saves i have seen from reina i think he is better his reaction to a ball being hit is very quick and he has pulled off some good saves this season. saying that i do agree with poolinc that dudek being put on bench dosent feel right. to me he is a hero because of champs league and to put a hero on the bench isn't right
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Postby Garymac » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:30 pm

But if you love Liverpool then you have to put the intrest of the club 1st ahead of any player, Dudek hasnt been treated badly he has had his finest moment and that is how he will be remembered, you cant play him through sympathy, fact is we have a better keeper now but nothing can ever take away what Dudek must have felt that night.

you cant judge a goalkeeper on one save, thats just ridicules and that seems to be your only case for Dudek.

And you forget if reina would have been in goal that night he would have flew out his box punched the ball clear and clattered shevchenko!!!! Reina spots danger before it happens thats why he is so good.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:15 am

Garymac wrote:And you forget if reina would have been in goal that night he would have flew out his box punched the ball clear and clattered shevchenko!!!! Reina spots danger before it happens thats why he is so good.

Ex-f*cking-actly.  :nod
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Postby madred » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:27 am

Its no contest really.Even when we signed Dudek and he had settled in i had a long running debate with my mate if he was even a vast improvement on Sander Westerveld? Dudek made too many errors and i was suprised that he actually lasted at the club after GH bombed out Westerveld for so many gaffes. For those out there who are thinking that the guy won us the champs league think again. The first goal by Maldini i reckon a top class keeper might have got to and he flapped when Traore had to clear off the line from Shevchenko. Granted he made a great save to stop them going 4-0 up and then was the hero of the shootout but the writing was already on the wall. Old news i know but what we have now is a much better keeper who doesnt seem to make too many errors and is very commanding and vocal. Great signing and i would defo put him in the top 3 keepers in the prem.
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