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by **115-1073096938** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:41 pm

If anyone can provide any examples of massive increases in ability in any area by one player i'll back down. Simple as that.

by **bigmick** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:43 pm

stu_the_red wrote:At at the end of it all, i'll be proven right, yet next time, you'll still tell me i don't know what i'm talking about when i clearly do.

In fairness stu I wouldn't tell you you don't know what you're talking about because you clearly do. Nobody's right all the time tho' mate, not even me :;):

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Without getting embroiled into this "will he ever be World-class" stuff which is a nonentity as far as a sensible argument goes, what do you think about my notion that he is unique amongst ball-winning midfielders in that he hunts the ball throughout the whole area of the pitch? He's by no means the first ball hunter to have a big engine, but his willingness to go into areas like the channels, or either defensive wings and gamble upon his recovery rate to regain position is a new one on me.
My suspicion is that we are only seeing about 60% of his capability at the moment. Whether the finished article will be class, World-class or simply good is a moot point. That he will be massively influential to the outcome of many games is a certainty though I reckon.
I agree with you on the other thread when you said Alonso was MOM today. I do think though, and I'm sure you'll agree that the perpetual motion that was Sissoko gave the likes of Alonso the platform on which to perform.

by **metalhead** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:44 pm

stu_the_red wrote:If anyone can provide any examples of massive increases in ability in any area by one player i'll back down. Simple as that.

His passes is getting slightly better and intercepting the plays.

He looked immense today

but i have to agree with some of your points that he is not world class and needs improvement.

but i think we have a gem in our hands

by **dawson99** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:46 pm

stu_the_red wrote:If anyone can provide any examples of massive increases in ability in any area by one player i'll back down. Simple as that.

Carlton Palmer :buttrock

by **115-1073096938** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:53 pm

bigmick wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:At at the end of it all, i'll be proven right, yet next time, you'll still tell me i don't know what i'm talking about when i clearly do.

In fairness stu I wouldn't tell you you don't know what you're talking about because you clearly do. Nobody's right all the time tho' mate, not even me .
Without getting embroiled into this "will he ever be World-class" stuff which is a nonentity as far as a sensible argument goes, what do you think about my notion that he is unique amongst ball-winning midfielders in that he hunts the ball throughout the whole area of the pitch? He's by no means the first ball hunter to have a big engine, but his willingness to go into areas like the channels, or either defensive wings and gamble upon his recovery rate to regain position is a new one on me.
My suspicion is that we are only seeing about 60% of his capability at the moment. Whether the finished article will be class, World-class or simply good is a moot point. That he will be massively influential to the outcome of many games is a certainty though I reckon.
I agree with you on the other thread when you said Alonso was MOM today. I do think though, and I'm sure you'll agree that the perpetual motion that was Sissoko gave the likes of Alonso the platform on which to perform.

Sissoko is a good player. I've said it time and time again. He's very different to what i've seen before in a ball winner Mick.

I just find it laughable when people say, if only he could be world class at this he'll be world class because he's young that means he can.

It doesn't.

Look at Owen and Pongolle. Similar players, from day one it was obvious Sinama would NEVER reach Owen's class.

Baros, again OBVIOUS he'd NEVER reach even Anelka's class, the amount of people i had telling me he was better than Anelka and Owen is rediculous.

Sissoko is a good player. He's part of a good team. There are certain things that NEED to ironed out, but those that think he'll improve in every area of the game by 10%-15% are pathetically deluded.

Its fans like these that will look at our team in games and wonder how on earth we didn't do this or that when we have the great Sissoko, Gerrard and Alonso in midfield.

Mick, you've proved on here loads mate you can see things in the game, look at his alround game and tell me he's not limited and has loads of class attributes.

Then think about the fact that maybe he's a good but limited player playing in a side that suits him and compliments him well and he's excellent at doing his job.

For me, he's not got much more ability than Crouch as a player.

by **Kukilon** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:54 pm

mighty mo wrote:sissoko is 21 years old,of course he will never be world class at that age and niether were other defensive holding midfielders who were 21 and later became world class players like deschamps emerson viera keane dunga rijkarrd makelele davids hierro ,you are being harsh RED STU ,and from what i have seen from sissoko now he will improve ten fold,because he has the stamina strength and anticipation of what to do to stop opposition players and still has ten years in front of him

Spot on.

by **drummerphil** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:02 pm

to be honest is this worth fecking arguing over.Its :censored:

pathetic that people cant have different opinions about a player without childish "I know more than you bóllocks"..........

by **115-1073096938** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:05 pm

You've turned into a right miserable cunt. Lets face it, its not really as if you're in a position to judge.

by **drummerphil** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:07 pm

stu_the_red wrote:You've turned into a right miserable cunt. Lets face it, its not really as if you're in a position to judge.

that aimed at me Stu......?

by **115-1073096938** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:18 pm

Its aimed at you yes. You've got into spats before about things so don't judge.

by **drummerphil** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:26 pm

stu_the_red wrote:Its aimed at you yes. You've got into spats before about things so don't judge.

well listen kid, i,ve never had words with you before,but calling me a cúnt and taking the píss out of my medical problems isnt on.I've forgot more than you will ever know about our club,but you dont catch me telling everyone they are wrong.
This is a forum and different opinions are what make it what it is.......you have sunk to the bottom with your comments and i can now see why everyone loses their rag with you.
Your nothing more than a fúcking jumped up spoilt bástard,and you've fúcking crossed the wrong one.

by **jonnymac1979** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:29 pm

Nip this is the bud NOW guys, do it by PM, not in public.

by **drummerphil** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:31 pm

jonnymac1979 wrote:Nip this is the bud NOW guys, do it by PM, not in public.

I did pm him john,but he didnt reply........calling me a cúnt and taking the píss out of my disabilities .......isnt on.....

surely you can see that.........

by **dawson99** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:32 pm

so we all agree sissoko is a good addition to the team?

by **fivecups** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:33 pm

drummerphil wrote:and taking the píss out of my disabilities .......isnt on.....

surely you can see that.........

I hear you Phil. I don't think thats what he meant though

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