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by **JBG** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:12 pm

Ace, I went into town last Saturday specifically looking to buy a Gamecube, but apparently nobody does them new anymore, and I couldn't even find one second hand.

I may yet pick up a second hand one on Ebay but if the Revolution is backwards compatible, then I'll go for that.

I just want to get my greasy mits on Zelda.

I'll always respect Nintendo, they've always had a gameplay first approach, as opposed to Sony's concentration of high production values and graphics. I honestly find the vast majority of games on the Xbox and PS2 tedious and boring and (with a few exceptions like Tekken and Gran Turismo) any game worth playing on those platforms I can get on my PC, with far better graphics to boot.

Nintendo simply has great gameplay and orginality.

When is the Revolution scheduled to be released in Europe? Will GameCube game discs be compatible with it?

by **Paul C** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:50 pm

JBG wrote:Ace, I went into town last Saturday specifically looking to buy a Gamecube, but apparently nobody does them new anymore, and I couldn't even find one second hand.

I may yet pick up a second hand one on Ebay but if the Revolution is backwards compatible, then I'll go for that.

I just want to get my greasy mits on Zelda.

I'll always respect Nintendo, they've always had a gameplay first approach, as opposed to Sony's concentration of high production values and graphics. I honestly find the vast majority of games on the Xbox and PS2 tedious and boring and (with a few exceptions like Tekken and Gran Turismo) any game worth playing on those platforms I can get on my PC, with far better graphics to boot.

Nintendo simply has great gameplay and orginality.

When is the Revolution scheduled to be released in Europe? Will GameCube game discs be compatible with it?

I was having this conversation with my mate last night, the Revolution is backwards compatible but as far as I know their isn't a confirmed release date but rumours say approx around 'thanks giving' (November), so it could be 2007 for UK?

I'm far more excited about the Rev than the PS3

by **The Ace1983** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:57 pm

JBG wrote:Ace, I went into town last Saturday specifically looking to buy a Gamecube, but apparently nobody does them new anymore, and I couldn't even find one second hand.

I may yet pick up a second hand one on Ebay but if the Revolution is backwards compatible, then I'll go for that.

I just want to get my greasy mits on Zelda.

I'll always respect Nintendo, they've always had a gameplay first approach, as opposed to Sony's concentration of high production values and graphics. I honestly find the vast majority of games on the Xbox and PS2 tedious and boring and (with a few exceptions like Tekken and Gran Turismo) any game worth playing on those platforms I can get on my PC, with far better graphics to boot.

Nintendo simply has great gameplay and orginality.

When is the Revolution scheduled to be released in Europe? Will GameCube game discs be compatible with it?

It is true that this country has given up on shiping the cube, which is a bit sad, but it never took to this market like it did in the US or especially Japan. But have no fear, somehow in that little revolution shell they have found a way to accomodate a NGC disc reader as well as the normal size and DVD reader. And if you want to know how big it is, just hold 3 DVD cases together.

On the release date, well, Mr Iwata-san is being as vague as ever. The only thing we know is that it will be a global launch sometime before Thanksgiving in the states. That means it could be released anytime from May to November.

Nintendo's outlook on the gaming experience has always been what has drawn me to their machines. It's alll about innovation and having fun, which is what I want from a console. The difference between Ninty's releases and X-box/PS2 releases is that while the other two would release one big name title a month accompanied with a load of 5h1te, the NGC released about 10 games that you would either love, or you would just like. The Revolution is going to be very similar in that respect. Yes there will be the Zeldas, Marios, Metroids and F-Zeros, but there will be some crazy stuff as well. There was a rumour of a new Pikmin game in the pipeline where you have the ability to control 600 individual characters at once. Throw in some touch screens, motion sensors, voice controls and what ever else those crazy Japanese developers can dream up.

And if you want another selling point, it looks like it's gonna cost about $150 in the US, so probably under £100 here and you won't need millions of extras.

I can't hardly wait. :nod

by **Feeney** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:22 am

Sony's PlayStation 3 is to come bundled with the necessary 60GB hard drive when the next-gen console launches in November, it has been confirmed.

After the announcement made at last week's PlayStation business briefing, everybody knows that PS3 will require a detachable 60GB hard drive. The drive will also double up as a home server, provide online access and even has Linux installed, as your mother could probably tell you.

But there was one crucial detail that was left unclear - would PS3 owners have to buy the HDD, or would it be bundled with the machine? It's the latter, thankfully, as has been confirmed by website Next-Gen. Larger HDDs will also be made available when PS3 is released.

http://www.gamesradar.com/gb....Id=1006

I think i'll aim this q at the 360 owners - what use is the HDD to the console? From my viewpoint, it can hold your profiles for online gaming, songs to play in-game and the odd old game. Is that all they are planned for? If this is the case, is a 60GB HDD really needed?

by **JBG** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:34 am

Feeney wrote:Sony's PlayStation 3 is to come bundled with the necessary 60GB hard drive when the next-gen console launches in November, it has been confirmed.

After the announcement made at last week's PlayStation business briefing, everybody knows that PS3 will require a detachable 60GB hard drive. The drive will also double up as a home server, provide online access and even has Linux installed, as your mother could probably tell you.

But there was one crucial detail that was left unclear - would PS3 owners have to buy the HDD, or would it be bundled with the machine? It's the latter, thankfully, as has been confirmed by website Next-Gen. Larger HDDs will also be made available when PS3 is released.

[url=http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?releaseId=&articleId=20060321101453578027§ionId=1006]http://www.gamesradar.com/gb....Id=1006[/url]

I think i'll aim this q at the 360 owners - what use is the HDD to the console? From my viewpoint, it can hold your profiles for online gaming, songs to play in-game and the odd old game. Is that all they are planned for? If this is the case, is a 60GB HDD really needed?

The Xbox360 uses its hard drive to cache in game data so as to speed up loading. Loading directly from a dvd or cd disk is terribly slow and they'll never match the speed of a hard drive.

Word has it that if you play Oblivion on a 360 with no hard drive you are in store for a lot of loading.

by **Paul C** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:56 am

JBG wrote:
Feeney wrote:Sony's PlayStation 3 is to come bundled with the necessary 60GB hard drive when the next-gen console launches in November, it has been confirmed.

After the announcement made at last week's PlayStation business briefing, everybody knows that PS3 will require a detachable 60GB hard drive. The drive will also double up as a home server, provide online access and even has Linux installed, as your mother could probably tell you.

But there was one crucial detail that was left unclear - would PS3 owners have to buy the HDD, or would it be bundled with the machine? It's the latter, thankfully, as has been confirmed by website Next-Gen. Larger HDDs will also be made available when PS3 is released.

[url=http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?releaseId=&articleId=20060321101453578027§ionId=1006]http://www.gamesradar.com/gb....Id=1006[/url]

I think i'll aim this q at the 360 owners - what use is the HDD to the console? From my viewpoint, it can hold your profiles for online gaming, songs to play in-game and the odd old game. Is that all they are planned for? If this is the case, is a 60GB HDD really needed?

The Xbox360 uses its hard drive to cache in game data so as to speed up loading. Loading directly from a dvd or cd disk is terribly slow and they'll never match the speed of a hard drive.

Word has it that if you play Oblivion on a 360 with no hard drive you are in store for a lot of loading.

The HDD is a nesesity, I don't know how MS can sell the 'core' pack cos you still gotta get a memory card at £25 and if you want a wireless controller it's another £30 which is basically what the premium pack costs

The HDD on the 360 is 20gb but the 360 uses about 6gb for the OS and other bits, saying that I've got loadsa gamesaves, 4 arcade games and 5 game demos (@ 600mb a pop) and I've still for 10gb left so 60gb is a little exesesive. I think the problem with the PS3 is going to be the price, rumours have it that it's going to cost close to £400 :oh:

by **Paul C** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:57 am

JBG, have you ever used http://www.direct2drive.com/ ? basically it's owned by IGN and you can pay for games and download them :;):

by **JBG** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:54 pm

Paul C wrote:JBG, have you ever used http://www.direct2drive.com/ ? basically it's owned by IGN and you can pay for games and download them

Yes, I have heard of it, its a bit like Steam.

They have Oblivion but its only available to American users.

Anyway, I preordered Oblivion and will have it on Friday.

by **The Ace1983** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:02 pm

just found a bunch of screenshots for the new Zelda. These are only the NGC shots and we don't know how much more advanced the Rev's graphics are gonna be, but by the looks of it, it doesn't need to be. There here.

Zelda Screens

by **JBG** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:46 pm

Wow, that looks really good if its for the GameCube.

Nintendo really managed to squeeze every last drop of computing power from the GC.

by **neil** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:59 pm

Gamecube

I thought they must be the Gameboy ports screenshots. :laugh:

Soz, only jokin....... :devil:

by **Paul C** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:34 pm

Looks good, Resident Evil 4 on the cube is very good visually :cool:

I like Nintendo and respect them for making 'gamers games' which concerntrate on the play factor and not just how really they look, one of my mates always comments on how Nintendo only make games for kids but I reminded him that he likes games that put you in real life situations where Nintendo make games that are fun and the games industry needs both, where would we be without Mario Kart, etc

by **The Ace1983** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:50 pm

This "games for kids" title is one that Nintendo will always have, whther it's deserved or not. Because the vast majority of Japanese animation doesn't do much over here, we don't exprience the same cultural influences that they do in the far east. Things that look kid-orientated aren't always meant for kids, and a lot of people refuse to admit that they like some kids stuff, even though they often have an occassional longing to watch a Disney film or watch some old kids TV shows. But each to his own, I say and variety is the spice of life.

If you ever want to prove your mate wrong, get him to play Killer 7. I got serious paranoia and a couple of nightmares after that one.

by **Paul C** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:04 pm

The Ace1983 wrote:This "games for kids" title is one that Nintendo will always have, whther it's deserved or not. Because the vast majority of Japanese animation doesn't do much over here, we don't exprience the same cultural influences that they do in the far east. Things that look kid-orientated aren't always meant for kids, and a lot of people refuse to admit that they like some kids stuff, even though they often have an occassional longing to watch a Disney film or watch some old kids TV shows. But each to his own, I say and variety is the spice of life.

If you ever want to prove your mate wrong, get him to play Killer 7. I got serious paranoia and a couple of nightmares after that one.

I tell him exactly the same but he won't have any of it, well apart from playing Mario Kart on the cube :eyebrow

by **Paul C** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:49 am

JGB will like this, http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=3069:

ATI Intros First 1GB Graphics Accelerator

Never to be outdone, ATI Technologies has announced the industry’s first one gigabyte (1GB) workstation graphics accelerator, the ATI FireGL V7350, and also a 512MB configuration, the FireGL V7300.

Featuring an extremely powerful ultra-threaded parallel processing GPU, and ATI’s industry leading Avivo video and display technology, these new ultra high-end graphics cards have been designed to further extend ATI’s workstation graphics line, promising better performance, more advanced features and higher image quality.

ATI’s Avivo video and display platform brings an increased level of visual fidelity to the professional graphics market with features such as automatic gain control, gamma correction and increased colour bit depth. With a 10-bit per RGB component graphics pipeline, instead of the standard 8-bit, the FireGL’s colour palette increases to over a billion colours.

The result should be a finer level of detail throughout the visible spectrum, enhancing details in shadows and making highlights come to life. In addition, high-end displays supporting 16-bit per RGB color component can be fully utilized by the FireGL V7350 and FireGL V7300. Two dual-link connectors also give end users the ability to drive multiple ultra-high resolution displays, yielding a massive desktop display over 5000 pixels wide.

Based on a cutting-edge 90nm process technology and a 512-bit ring bus memory architecture, the FireGL V7350 and FireGL V7300 are able to take advantage of higher speed memories and support 1GB and 512MB frame buffers respectively. The high clock rates of these new graphics cards, combined with full 128-bit precision and extremely high levels of parallel processing, result in floating point processing power that exceeds a 3GHz Pentium processor by a staggering seven times, claims the company.

ATI’s FireGL products are supported by a unified driver, which is tested and certified by professional 3D ISV partners, making system administration and upgrades cost effective and simple. All FireGL products come with a three year warranty and direct access to a dedicated workstation technical support team.

The FireGL V7350 and FireGL V7300 are shipping today from Workstation System Integrators - Alienware, Amax, Boxx, Colfax, Monarch Computer Systems, Omnitech, Polywell, Safe Harbor, Systemax, Polywell, Velocity Micro, Xi Computer and 3dshop.com - from distributors - Althon Micro, Armari, Cad2, D&H, Exxact, Ingram Micro, JB&A, Leading Technology, Noesse Daten Technik GmbH, Synnex, Tech Data and Xworks Interactive - and Value Added Resellers at $1999 (£1139) and $1599 (£911) respectively.

:cool:

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