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Postby Paul C » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:09 pm

puroresu wrote:I dont see how Tottenham would gurantee him more playing time. Look at Defoe

Defoe will be part of the deal I think  :;):
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Postby puroresu » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:23 pm

Paul C wrote:
puroresu wrote:I dont see how Tottenham would gurantee him more playing time. Look at Defoe

Defoe will be part of the deal I think  :;):

I mean Defoe doesnt play so their is no reason why Cisse couldnt be on the bench at Tottenham like Defoe is now.
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Postby Ace Ventura » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:33 pm

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puroresu wrote:I dont see how Tottenham would gurantee him more playing time. Look at Defoe

Defoe will be part of the deal I think  :;):

Me stepdad said that on the last day of the transfer window a deal for 4 million and Cisse in exchange for Defoe nearly went through, but it couldnt be finalised on time.
He just said a fella told him so not exactly reliable but i would be made up if we could do business like that.
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Postby 73-1141222089 » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:34 pm

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Garymac wrote:2 people have mentioned Cisse and Henry in the same breath

What. The. Fu*k.

Hes not good enough, im sorry but the lad just doesnt do it, on the wing or upfront, 14 million pound for a player who simply lacks ability is truly shocking.

Bigmick is correct, Cisse is rubbish im afraid

I don't know bout you guys..... but I think he's just too thick.... pretty one dimensional.... pace dependant, poor 1st touch etc etc.... all been discussed before.....

In the last game he behaved atrociously and would have gotten us into a potential disrepute charge.....

I know plenty of guys think that he needs to be given more of a chance than what Rafa's given him..... But there must be something going on in training that has given Rafa doubts bout him and not just that tired old Bull@#$t that Rafa doesn't like the french players..... He plays Traore often enough... :Oo:

I think that we need to stop grasping at straws as far as striking personnel is involved..... Djibril is not the answer..... Liverpool players have better sense and treat the opposition and their fans better (generally that is) that what this idiot has done..... When we got rid of the Wa!@ker Diouf, I breathed a huge sigh of relief...... BUT we seemed to have unearthed another sh!te in Cisse......

Probably get a lot of stick from the Cisse supporters but I'm of the opinion that it's time to cut our losses and get rid of the scum...... He's not LIVERPOOL....GH can have him back.....   :veryangry

Wasnt Carragher involved in an incident at Highbury a few years back?

Really??.... I'm surprised....
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Postby Ace Ventura » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:37 pm

puroresu wrote:[Next time Cisse plays can somebody please make a note of all the times his 1st touch is poor.  To me its been fine recently and yes some balls are mis controlled but nowhere near to the extent people say.  Again I think people over emphasise whenever he mis controls a pass while dont do the same for others.

As for comparisons to Anelka.  Look at many clubs Anelka has been to in his short career and the amount of disruption his called.  Cisse has done nothing like that!!!

If you watched the game on Sunday he miscontrolled about 4 or 5 times, he did one that bounced about 5 feet over his head.
His control is shocking.
I didnt comment on Anelka's troublesome past, i was talking about ability...as you compared the players.
Anelka is better than Cisse in every area, and is pacey enough.
There is no comparison in ability imo.
Cisse's temperament is not exactly one of his stronger points either.
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Postby NAVAN RED » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:04 pm

Its high time Cisse was shown the the exit door. We keep on highlighting the same things with him week in week out-all negative. The only consisitancy with the guy is that he is..... consistantly bad! He seems more concerned with the way he looks in front of the camera. His inability to involve other players in attacking the goal (we all cringed when he failed to square a simple ball to an unmarked and far better positioned Harry Kewell on Sunday). OK so he took and scored a pen just to give him the satisfasction of quietening the begrudgers who get joy out of slating the out of form strikers we have at the moment.Give my head peace ..... get him and his negative attitude out of the club... lets go forward not backwards! :veryangry  :veryangry  :veryangry
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Postby Judge » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:43 pm

i was a supporter of cisse, but now...... :(
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Postby puroresu » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:54 pm

NAVAN RED wrote:Its high time Cisse was shown the the exit door. We keep on highlighting the same things with him week in week out-all negative. The only consisitancy with the guy is that he is..... consistantly bad! He seems more concerned with the way he looks in front of the camera. His inability to involve other players in attacking the goal (we all cringed when he failed to square a simple ball to an unmarked and far better positioned Harry Kewell on Sunday). OK so he took and scored a pen just to give him the satisfasction of quietening the begrudgers who get joy out of slating the out of form strikers we have at the moment.Give my head peace ..... get him and his negative attitude out of the club... lets go forward not backwards! :veryangry  :veryangry  :veryangry

You sure your not talking about Morientes.

What makes Cisse's attitude negative?
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Postby stmichael » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:13 pm

puroresu wrote:What makes Cisse's attitude negative?

Too selfish. At least Mori will look for his teammates, (probably stuff up the pass though), on more then one occasion he took a ridiculous shot where he had teammates in a much better position (one involving HK springs to mind).

Also with the yellow card for lifting his shirt, I fully understand he might have been happy with the birth of his child but it was a very selfish thing to do. What happens if he misses a game for us with yellow cards and we are left with a shortage of options? The guy only thinks and plays for himself.
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Postby Big Niall » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:33 pm

kunilson wrote:The difference? their managers took time on them. Cisse's problems won't be hard to fix, and then maybe we can see some of our money's worth. just a thought...

His problems won't be hard to fix?

If you could coach somebody to have top class ball control, vision and a footballing brain, wouldn't we all be professional footballers.

Besides speed, I don't see anything.

As for taunting the Newcastle fans - he scored a penalty - big deal , I'd fancy myself to score a penalty, its not much of an achievement. Also, how long was he wearing the T shirt for (hopefully not since the end of 2005!)
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Postby puroresu » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:47 pm

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puroresu wrote:What makes Cisse's attitude negative?

Too selfish. At least Mori will look for his teammates, (probably stuff up the pass though), on more then one occasion he took a ridiculous shot where he had teammates in a much better position (one involving HK springs to mind).

Also with the yellow card for lifting his shirt, I fully understand he might have been happy with the birth of his child but it was a very selfish thing to do. What happens if he misses a game for us with yellow cards and we are left with a shortage of options? The guy only thinks and plays for himself.

A player lifting his shirt is not the biggest crime in the World. Remember when fowler had the dockers t-shirt.  Was it such a bad thing to reveal this t-shirt?
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Postby Ace Ventura » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:03 pm

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puroresu wrote:What makes Cisse's attitude negative?

Too selfish. At least Mori will look for his teammates, (probably stuff up the pass though), on more then one occasion he took a ridiculous shot where he had teammates in a much better position (one involving HK springs to mind).

Also with the yellow card for lifting his shirt, I fully understand he might have been happy with the birth of his child but it was a very selfish thing to do. What happens if he misses a game for us with yellow cards and we are left with a shortage of options? The guy only thinks and plays for himself.

A player lifting his shirt is not the biggest crime in the World. Remember when fowler had the dockers t-shirt.  Was it such a bad thing to reveal this t-shirt?

I agree the t-shirt is not the worst crime in the world, and the newcastle fans over reacted. Although he was stupid for what he did afterwards, he could of been sent of for inciting the crowd.
But we all do stupid things in the heat of the moment, and i wouldnt hold that against him...its his ability with the ball that bothers me.
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Postby stmichael » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:27 pm

Even if Cisse did go to a team such as Spurs I can't see him scoring many more goals than he has done for us, even if he plays upfront week in week out.

I'm sure I heard people saying the same about Baros when he left. How many's he scored this season?

I definitely won't be losing any sleep if Cisse goes. The guy drives me mad. As much as I try to be rational about all matters red, when it comes to Cisse, all sense is lost and are replaced by complete frustration and disbelief. 14 million he cost, and he doesn't seem to know what a football is supposed to do?

The match on Sunday for example - how many times did he blast the ball into the stratosphere, when he could have laid it off, crossed it, squared it, spent some fecking quaility time with? People lambast Crouch, but the fact remains that the Newcastle game showed what they're both all about..

1. That Crouch (without being prolific) will pop up with a goal once in a while, whilst actually contributing to the approach play, holding the ball up, and generally helping retain posession.

2. Cisse will pop up with a goal once in a while and..er..wind up the crowd

I read someone saying that Cisse caused the Newcastle back line havoc. Wrong. The Newcastle backline caused the Newcastle backline havoc, as they do week in, week out. Cisse's utter inability to play football properly only compounded their confusion..as it does mine!
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Postby Paul C » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:47 pm

puroresu wrote:
stmichael wrote:
puroresu wrote:What makes Cisse's attitude negative?

Too selfish. At least Mori will look for his teammates, (probably stuff up the pass though), on more then one occasion he took a ridiculous shot where he had teammates in a much better position (one involving HK springs to mind).

Also with the yellow card for lifting his shirt, I fully understand he might have been happy with the birth of his child but it was a very selfish thing to do. What happens if he misses a game for us with yellow cards and we are left with a shortage of options? The guy only thinks and plays for himself.

A player lifting his shirt is not the biggest crime in the World. Remember when fowler had the dockers t-shirt.  Was it such a bad thing to reveal this t-shirt?

Do you have a Cisse poster, PJ's, wallpaper/curtains and tattoo?  :p  :D
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Postby puroresu » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:50 pm

stmichael wrote:Even if Cisse did go to a team such as Spurs I can't see him scoring many more goals than he has done for us, even if he plays upfront week in week out.

I'm sure I heard people saying the same about Baros when he left. How many's he scored this season?

I definitely won't be losing any sleep if Cisse goes. The guy drives me mad. As much as I try to be rational about all matters red, when it comes to Cisse, all sense is lost and are replaced by complete frustration and disbelief. 14 million he cost, and he doesn't seem to know what a football is supposed to do?

The match on Sunday for example - how many times did he blast the ball into the stratosphere, when he could have laid it off, crossed it, squared it, spent some fecking quaility time with? People lambast Crouch, but the fact remains that the Newcastle game showed what they're both all about..

1. That Crouch (without being prolific) will pop up with a goal once in a while, whilst actually contributing to the approach play, holding the ball up, and generally helping retain posession.

2. Cisse will pop up with a goal once in a while and..er..wind up the crowd

I read someone saying that Cisse caused the Newcastle back line havoc. Wrong. The Newcastle backline caused the Newcastle backline havoc, as they do week in, week out. Cisse's utter inability to play football properly only compounded their confusion..as it does mine!

I think he would score goals elsewhere.  People may claim the French League is weak and all that other BS. But his record suggest he can score goals.  With backing from a Manager and a team playing to his Strength’s , Cisse will score goals.
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