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stmichael wrote:

nufclee wrote:Aye cos anyone who turns Liverpool down must be hung drawn and quartered.

yeah cos michael owen turned us down. everyone knows he'd never come back here. it's always been his lifelong ambition to play for newcastle.

the only reason he ended up at your place is because you offered nearly double what we were willing to pay. there's no way we were going to sell the guy for £8m one year and then sign him back for £17m a year later. it made no financial sense at the time although to be honest, looking at it now we could have done with him.

the fact that you're willing to pay him £102,000 a week and also pay wasters like kieron dyer £80,000 a week when you're not even in europe shows you pretty much the lengths your chairman will go to to get the fans off his back.

p.s. who do you want as your new manager? if shepherd gets the next appointment wrong then he's history.

0asis wrote:Rankings prove nothing, and you're probably high up on the rankings because they ran out of teams to place near the top.

You're correct a big club is based on level of support, revenue and finanical power but it's also based on form in competitions like Europe, League and domestic cups, it's also based on how many trophies you have won etc.

I'd actually go as far as saying that if you're not in G14 then you're not a big club.

nufclee wrote:We should be in europe. Anyone who can't see that our squad is very strong knows nothing about football. Our only problem this season has been Souness.

0asis wrote:

nufclee wrote:We should be in europe. Anyone who can't see that our squad is very strong knows nothing about football. Our only problem this season has been Souness.

Yeah you should be in Europe but you aren't and you won't be next season. You have an average team at best when you weigh up the good, the bad and the ugly. Souness wasn't you're only problem so don't try blaming it all on him, it's easy to blame the manager. It was you're lack of organisation and lack of concentration on the pitch which led to you're poor results as well as an incompetant manager.

0asis wrote:My argument holds creditability, if you're not in G14 then you're not a big club simple as that. Until you start challenging for trophies on a regular basis and actually start winning trophies to add to your empty, dusty cabinet you will never be seen by any other set of supporters as a BIG club.

0asis wrote:There's only one club who serves the right to be named as 'A Sleeping Giant' and you're on our forum. Altho we are starting to be awoken by a Spanish tactican that many fans including you're lot wish you had.

We don't need belittle you, you're players do that well enough week in week out. As for bragging about our recent success we don't need Newcastle as an excuse to do that, we'll use Chelsea & United for that. I hold no bitterness towards Newcastle for you're capture of Owen, if I'm honest I'm glad you signed him because he's spent almost all season on the treatment table, albeit a great way to spend £17million it must be said.

Liverpool are by our owns tandards underachievers but even when we've been "underachieving" we've still managed to win trophies. Same can't be said about Newcy.

And don't flatter yourself if we won't belittle clubs with our superior history, we'll take it to Chelsea not you lot, you're not worth it.

0asis wrote:You say every club, list every club that thinks you're big 'n' if you're a big club than why aren't you in G14? I'd love to know that one? The fact is Newcastle are  a big city club like Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal + Chelsea, the only difference is these clubs have other clubs within the city e.g

Liverpool - Everton

Man Utd - Man City

and so on....

You can throw rankings, revenues, finances and stadium size all into you're argument but all of those things are pretty much worthless when you're trophy room looks wafer thin.

nufclee wrote:Also if you rank clubs solely on trophy winnings, are rangers and celtic bigger than Liverpool(team gerrard)?