Liverpool FC Forum

by **tubby** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:05 pm

Everybody hates the way Chelsea just buy the market out with the russians billions but the Hearts chairman made a good point yesterday when he was talking about the emergance of Russian billionaires targeting big football clubs. So far in Britain we have seen Chelsea, Portsmouth and Hearts taken over by Eastern European funders and this has helped at least 2 of them secure silverware for the fist time in years.

You dont have to lecture me about Liverpools history as one of this countrys biggest clubs who never sold out but the fact is that after the recent 2-0 loss i thought to myself. Yes it was nice knocking them out last year but this sqauad needs more depth, more players ie: more money. We have some but isnt enough.

Just for argumens sake we had been taken over by a russian investor, we might have had the correct funds required to bring Michael Owen back, or tempt Theo Walcott to his dream club instead of relying on players who in their own rights are good players (Crouch) but simply lack the all round game needed to compete. The guy is 6ft 7 but how many goals has he scored with his head this season. We might have even had the funds to secure Simao instead of being suckered into stonewall and having to shift our skipper out of position to fil that gap. Things could be a lot more rosier if we had similar funding to Chelsea and im sure that the majority if not all of you would have been really happy had we brought back Owen or signed Simao or Joaquin or our CB without all the hassle withe their clubs because we have limited funds. I afraid to think how many more tropheys Chelskum will win before another big team is taken over. We are lucky we have special players liuek Gerrard and Carra but this isnt enough. Those are player to build a club around but we need to spend ahell of a lot more if we are serious about competeing on all fronts in the future.

Im expecting some opposite views on this subject but try to think open minded and remember that this game is always evolving with time due to money. And maybe somewhere in the not to distant future David Moores and Rick Parry will realise this and truley help this clubs future.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:06 pm

NO WAY! At first I though it would be great, but it goes against everything I believe in, football is not about sugar daddies who want to use clubs like train sets.

by **tubby** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:09 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:NO WAY! At first I though it would be great, but it goes against everything I believe in, football is not about sugar daddies who want to use clubs like train sets.

In an ideal world we would all like to think like that but as you cansee money is the thing which speak volumes these days. They bring in big players which bring in silverware which in retur bring in history. The diference between had we been taken over and not Chelsea would be that we have already proven ourselves in football at all levels so the takeover would not be look upon in the same manner as Chelsea.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:14 pm

You probably will think that I’m saying this for effect, but I would rather try and end up winning nothing the way were doing it now, than win everything the way Chelsea are.

When Roman first came in I was like, this will be interesting, lets see how things go, but then they stopped being a football club and because a corporate establishment.

I personally would hate it if we got a sugar daddy, that’s just my opinion, we probably would end up winning a lot of trophies and getting some great players, but I would hate it.

by **Leonmc0708** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:17 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:You probably will think that I’m saying this for effect, but I would rather try and end up winning nothing the way were doing it now, than win everything the way Chelsea are.

Its the Liverpool Way.

We never sold our soul to the stock exchange when that was in vouge, and we should never sell our soul to a sugar daddy now that is the fashionable thing.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:19 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
Cool Hand Luke wrote:You probably will think that I’m saying this for effect, but I would rather try and end up winning nothing the way were doing it now, than win everything the way Chelsea are.

Its the Liverpool Way.

We never sold our soul to the stock exchange when that was in vouge, and we should never sell our soul to a sugar daddy now that is the fashionable thing.

The most sensible thing you have ever said!

by **inglis5** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:21 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
Cool Hand Luke wrote:You probably will think that I’m saying this for effect, but I would rather try and end up winning nothing the way were doing it now, than win everything the way Chelsea are.

Its the Liverpool Way.

We never sold our soul to the stock exchange when that was in vouge, and we should never sell our soul to a sugar daddy now that is the fashionable thing.

Totally agree. There is no way that it would be a good thing for the club. We would lose what this club is all about. Rafa has already stated that it's not impossible to compete with Chelsea, it's just very difficult. You don't need the best players to have the best team.

Investment - yes.
Russian Oligarch - no thanks.

by **Leonmc0708** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:22 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
Cool Hand Luke wrote:You probably will think that I’m saying this for effect, but I would rather try and end up winning nothing the way were doing it now, than win everything the way Chelsea are.

Its the Liverpool Way.

We never sold our soul to the stock exchange when that was in vouge, and we should never sell our soul to a sugar daddy now that is the fashionable thing.

The most sensible thing you have ever said!

If you beleive Stu, (70% of my stuff is rubbish according to the latest STU POLL figures) every 4th post is worth reading

by **tubby** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:22 pm

At the end of the day if this club is not willing to give in to sugar daddies there will always be another club that will say yes. And before we know it we will be fighting 2 Chelseas. I know this is a contraversial topic but you have to think realistically. And as much as id like to see us win the league next season the fact is that we do posess the players for it but their squad has more depth and they can put in good performances each week beacsue they have enough players for ecah position. If they didnt have such an arrogant manager I think people would definiatley still think of them as cheaters but not as much as they do now because they hate Mourinho. Im just saying it would be different with us becasue we already have allutrious history. And you can say we wond 4 European cups without sigar daddies but the gtame was different then.

There was no tapping up scandals, no debate for goal line technology, no bosman transfers. Times are changing and when the likes of Gerrard and Carra are gone I do not want to see this club slip into the exile of obscurity that engulfed Blackburn and Notts Forrest.

by **tubby** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:24 pm

inglis5 wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
Cool Hand Luke wrote:You probably will think that I’m saying this for effect, but I would rather try and end up winning nothing the way were doing it now, than win everything the way Chelsea are.

Its the Liverpool Way.

We never sold our soul to the stock exchange when that was in vouge, and we should never sell our soul to a sugar daddy now that is the fashionable thing.

Totally agree. There is no way that it would be a good thing for the club. We would lose what this club is all about. Rafa has already stated that it's not impossible to compete with Chelsea, it's just very difficult. You don't need the best players to have the best team.

Investment - yes.
Russian Oligarch - no thanks.

Im not saying he has to be russian. But some major investmant would be nice. I was using the Russian becasue of the influx of Russian barons who are entering our game.

by **Leonmc0708** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:24 pm

bavlondon wrote:There was no tapping up scandals, no debate for goal line technology, no bosman transfers. Times are changing and when the likes of Gerrard and Carra are gone I do not want to see this club slip into the exile of obscurity that engulfed Blackburn and Notts Forrest.

Are you a self harmer ?

by **tubby** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:26 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:There was no tapping up scandals, no debate for goal line technology, no bosman transfers. Times are changing and when the likes of Gerrard and Carra are gone I do not want to see this club slip into the exile of obscurity that engulfed Blackburn and Notts Forrest.

Are you a self harmer ?

Lets not let another thread turn to :censored:

please. Keep the comments clean

by **mighty mo** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:26 pm

no thanks,have you seen how much chelsea are hated now,everyone in europe hates there guts bayern and barca have recently shown this with there comments and the entire g14 won't let them join,someone mentioned investment above,and that is the better option than having a megalomaniac in charge who doesn't care for the tradition respect and standing of the club

by **drummerphil** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:26 pm

Bav mate you have been here long enough for your posts to get respect and i can clearly see where your coming from.Although it would be lovely to be overflowing with money and to be able to afford who you want,it goes against everything i believe Liverpool fc to be.I have been brought up with my club winning everything going based on managers buying the right players for the right price who fall into the "liverpool way" and various good pieces make a great team.
I would rather win feck all than go down the road of buying success.We all go to work for our pittance of pay and struggle to rise to the top and stay afloat........my club has always emphasised this and come out smelling of roses.

by **tubby** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:27 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:There was no tapping up scandals, no debate for goal line technology, no bosman transfers. Times are changing and when the likes of Gerrard and Carra are gone I do not want to see this club slip into the exile of obscurity that engulfed Blackburn and Notts Forrest.

Are you a self harmer ?

And by the way think ofme what what you will but Phil Thompson actually said this himself at the start of the season on sky. He was talking about the club slipping away from a great team like blackburn and forrest.

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