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by **Big Niall** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:57 pm

Penguins wrote:Where are the signs Cissé is turing it up a notch?
Giving that extra effort? Getting better at controlling the ball, reading of plays etc?
The last 7 month zero progress. Either he doesn't want to learn or he can't. Either way
he has shown me nothing to warrant him playing for Liverpool.
He might have more goals, but he misses so many clear cut chanses it frustrating.
And plz don't compare to Crouch. He is 100% more useful on the pitch.
Cissés only mission in the game is to score. He has no other function and can't provide much else(and plz spare
me with his speed). When Crouch or Morientes doesn't score they HELP out the team, linking up plays, holds up the ball so the team can move up. They often make the right decisions. Cissé is totally useless if he doesn't score. And he isn't improving anywhere. Is always sulking, seems aroggant, more intressted in fashion than football. He has absolutely zero football smart, and if you haven't been able to pick that up in the games he's has started lately you are blind. And giving him the starts has been good in a way cause now we all see he is actually just as worthless for 75 min as for 20 min.
Crouch>Morientes=Pongolle>>>>>>>>>>Cissé end of story!

Dead right.

HOw many league goals has Cisse scored? that is all he contributes. Morientes and Crouch do other things too (not the score much)

I'd get rid of Cisse and Morientes and get Owen to play beside Crouch.

by **Penguins** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:09 pm

Well, about Owen it's all about what's written in his little contract with the magpies.
Unless there is some kind of 10-12 million clause he isn't coming.
I'd get rid of Cissé 1st then maybe Mori after another season, cause if both goes only Crouch and Pongolle is left and even if Owen will be back 3 strikers is not enough.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:13 pm

Big Niall wrote:
Penguins wrote:Where are the signs Cissé is turing it up a notch?
Giving that extra effort? Getting better at controlling the ball, reading of plays etc?
The last 7 month zero progress. Either he doesn't want to learn or he can't. Either way
he has shown me nothing to warrant him playing for Liverpool.
He might have more goals, but he misses so many clear cut chanses it frustrating.
And plz don't compare to Crouch. He is 100% more useful on the pitch.
Cissés only mission in the game is to score. He has no other function and can't provide much else(and plz spare
me with his speed). When Crouch or Morientes doesn't score they HELP out the team, linking up plays, holds up the ball so the team can move up. They often make the right decisions. Cissé is totally useless if he doesn't score. And he isn't improving anywhere. Is always sulking, seems aroggant, more intressted in fashion than football. He has absolutely zero football smart, and if you haven't been able to pick that up in the games he's has started lately you are blind. And giving him the starts has been good in a way cause now we all see he is actually just as worthless for 75 min as for 20 min.
Crouch>Morientes=Pongolle>>>>>>>>>>Cissé end of story!

Dead right.

HOw many league goals has Cisse scored? that is all he contributes. Morientes and Crouch do other things too (not the score much)

I'd get rid of Cisse and Morientes and get Owen to play beside Crouch.

Good call.

As for old nob jockey Mudface well you've done yourself proud with your amazing hacking ability, i bet your massive in the hacking world.

"What did you hack today??"

"The CIA!"

"Cool...how about you Mudface?"

"Liverpool FC Discussion Forum! That must make me a legend, no??"

"No mudface that makes you a Cunt"

by **anfieldadorer** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:18 pm

seeing the latest match, to be honest i was a bit jealous seeing rooney plays. he creates goals, he helps the other players to play easier, he runs deep down to help the defense, he chases every ball in mid, he gets through opponents' defense and threats goal keepers. cisse; the other day, he was tying up his shoestring when the ball came up

by **66-1137139704** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:54 pm

anfieldadorer wrote:seeing the latest match, to be honest i was a bit jealous seeing rooney plays. he creates goals, he helps the other players to play easier, he runs deep down to help the defense, he chases every ball in mid, he gets through opponents' defense and threats goal keepers. cisse; the other day, he was tying up his shoestring when the ball came up

every striker has his own style.Ronaldo aint like rooney or Etoo or sheva,yet they are all top strikers.In fact all the strikers i have mentioned can be ranked as far better than shrek.
In fact,what has rooney won for united?At least baros and cisse won us the CL :grinning:

As for tying his shoestrings,i didnt see that part but did you expect him not to tie them if they're loose?

Stop looking for excuses,cisse is our best striker and it is sad he aint getting games.And it will be sad for Liverpool if he leaves...it will be a step backward in our endevour to be up there with the top teams in europe and at home.

by **thegreedo** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:00 pm

I'm unable to credit the journalist who originally wrote it as I can't remember for the life of me who it was but not to long ago I was reading the match report of a Liverpool game in the paper and the author made a mention of Cisse saying this:

"Cisse showed phenomenal pace and looked every inch the athelete, if only he looked even slightly like a footballer Liverpool would have one hell of a player on their hands"

As much as it hurts me to say it about a man in Red, I couldn't have agreed more. As for his performances since reading that article, he has done nothing but make those words even more profound.

Oh and as for you mudface, might I suggest you turn the telly off and get yourself to a few games lad. You may just find your opinions change a little.

by **stmichael** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:04 pm

MudFace wrote:cisse is our best striker and it is sad he aint getting games. And it will be sad for Liverpool if he leaves...it will be a step backward in our endevour to be up there with the top teams in europe and at home.

Now I'm convinced you're here on a wind up.

Cisse leaving will harm our chances of being up there with the best in Europe and at home? We're the European champions and are the second best team in England ffs. We got where we are without Cisse for the majority of the time because he was injured anyway.

I don't believe that Cisse will be able to turn it around for LFC. His first touch is so poor, which to me isn't anything to do with confidence, but something to do with skill. If you don't have the ability to control the ball at the age of 24, then IMO, you won't get it.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:07 pm

Cisse will only stay when he learns to knuckle down and work for the team. He can't read the game, no exaggeration - in the manure game the amount of times he was jumping WITH crouch for headers was ridiculous. He was always 5 secs slow of any pass and then tried stupid flicks when he did mange to recieve a pass. Rafa should be using him to warm the bench for the rest of the season and give others like Sinama Pongolle a chance, Cisses had his.

by **drummerphil** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:09 pm

stmichael wrote:
MudFace wrote:cisse is our best striker and it is sad he aint getting games. And it will be sad for Liverpool if he leaves...it will be a step backward in our endevour to be up there with the top teams in europe and at home.

Now I'm convinced you're here on a wind up.

Cisse leaving will harm our chances of being up there with the best in Europe and at home? We're the European champions and are the second best team in England ffs. We got where we are without Cisse for the majority of the time because he was injured anyway.

I don't believe that Cisse will be able to turn it around for LFC. His first touch is so poor, which to me isn't anything to do with confidence, but something to do with skill. If you don't have the ability to control the ball at the age of 24, then IMO, you won't get it.

he is mick big style if you read the undertones in his posts there are either sarcastic towards the reds or racist.If hes not a Manc fan i will eat my hat,if not i cant help thinking hes an ex member who was banned coming back for a play.

by **primodua** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:03 am

MudFace wrote:At least baros and cisse won us the CL

As for tying his shoestrings,i didnt see that part but did you expect him not to tie them if they're loose?

Stop looking for excuses,cisse is our best striker and it is sad he aint getting games.And it will be sad for Liverpool if he leaves...it will be a step backward in our endevour to be up there with the top teams in europe and at home.

some body please spank this guy.. please.. :help

to think that baros, cisse won us the CL without the craft of Rafa is truly a blasphemy.

If you're so damn smart, why couldn't GH bring us the CL before Rafa came to Anfield? After all, most of the players then were his...

What a f*ckin ignorant son of a b*itch!

by **darwisigila** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:12 am

mudface=scum=smelly=babi

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:54 am

H_K_LFC wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:I still haven't heard from those guys on this site who raved about him before he came and promised great things. Come on, own up!!!

Thank also GH for the CL win last year coz its his players that won it plus alonso and garcia.

[/quote]
GH did not win the champions league....Rafa bringing on hamaan for finnan wion the champions league last year..His tactics were a big factor..

Also am backing Cisse to become good for us..He's had a bad season and he's well below form but he's young,had good pace and is deadly when he wants to be...He's always been in good form for France cant understand how he cant play that well for us[/quote]
Mate - I didn't say that.

"Mudface the W*nker" did.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:00 am

MudFace wrote:And thank houllier for Gerrard,Carra and Owen for he helped them take the step from the academy to reserves to the first team.
Which youngstar has Benitez brought through?

It's funny that, cos Carragher and Owen were playing regularly for us under Evans. Houllier arrived, and Gerrard got his debut while the Frenchman was co-manager.

Easy to forget the facts isn't it?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:03 am

MudFace wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:Sorry thats an excuse used way too much. Cisse needs to look at why he has no desire on the pitch. I'm starting to wonder whether he does actually want to be back in a league he can cope with, i.e. the French League. To me its obvious thats where he'll go back to.

Also I have no doubt he play more games for Liverpool this season, Rafa will still rotate the squad - as he always has. Sinama Pongolle will be pleased at the situation as this should open more opportunities for himself, he just needs to make an impact on the games he plays in.

Cisse is way better than crouch and morrientes for all his shortcommings.
All he needs is more games to prove himself... as a striker.And so far he is our leading striker.Why arnt you after morrientes' head?Or crouch?At least cisse can be used in the right wing with his pace if the need arises...imagine crouch on the right

And i bet that you were in the group that wanted baros to leave whilst praising cisse like you are praising pongille now.
After cisse is gone,am sure you will be after pongolles head as morrientes appears untouchable being buddies with rafa an all.

Dont you feel sad when you see Baros play so well for Villa,when your favorite strikers(crouch and morrientes) are doing nothing for the team(they are supposed to score arnt they?).

I just hope you're not a manc trying to incite us against our best striker

Listen here, gimp chimp.

Morientes isn't delivering the goals, he is slow and wants too much time on the ball.

He tries his best though, and that is all we can ask.

Crouch speaks for himself. The most underrated service by any striker in the League.
Few goals, massive impact.

by **Penguins** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:16 am

Honest I haven't seen a player wear the red shirt with such poor control and first touch as Cissé have.

I wonder if not even Sean Dundee had better control, and I'm being serious.
I have never asked for a striker to get flogged out since Dundee. I wasn't eager to get rid of Baros. I thought he worked hard but had his limitations. But as he worked for the team and put out what he had I didn't complain. So he got sold, and I didn't jump with joy or started crying. Same with Heskey. I thought he had his strong sides and weak sides but he tried and worked for the team and I wasn't one who wanted him out, but he got sold and I neither jumped with joy or cried. BUT WHEN Cissé leaves I will jump with joy. Not only
he he an abysmal footballer, but he never even tries or give it 100%.
And how some people can defend him is incredible.
Haven't you watched the game he's played this season??
It doesn't matter where he plays, when he plays, he always
produces the same end result. He would be much better at long jump or 100 meters in my eyes, cause he has got pace,
BUT there isn't anything else to his game!

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