stu_the_red wrote:banana wrote:stu_the_red wrote:He'll be a good player in a couple of years. Shown signs of promise early on. Not ready for the first team on a regular basis in my opinion but he's improving and learning.
We still need a right winger though and i am not liking what i'm hearing. (Nothing). Hopefully we can get a good one signed up before the end of January. Bullard or Pennant would be nice, Joaquin would be great.
Why do you keep saying he isn't ready for the first team?
He is. And not only that, he is doing a brilliant job. Probably the second best defensive midfielder in england. (only behind Makelele). So what is your problem?
He's played about 20 games.
His passing is decent, not good, somteimes its woeful, see todays game... his tactical nouse is decent, not good and his lack of common sense when tackling is frightening.
As i've said many times, he's not ready on a regular basis. He is a good prospect and has potential, he'll become a really good player in time, however he's not there yet and has a way to go. He leaves holes when he "covers" all the ground, he gives the ball away cheaply and is careless at times aswell.
Banana, you don't have high standards of players, i know that from the way you bigged up Baros, your judgement of players is poor, no doubt that isn't helped by the fact you don't go to games.
Sissoko has potential, i like him alot as a player. But learning his trade in the reserves making the odd appearance from the start and alot of sub appearances at his age won't do him any harm at all.
I'd rather see a better more complete midfielder in there with Xabi or Stevey in there with a class right winger. As for you saying he's the second best in the country thats laughable I'm affraid. He'll never be that good and isn't anywhere near the top 5 or 6 in the league, let alone the top two.
Gerrard, Alonso, Essien, Makalele, Gilberto Silva, Scholes, Lampard, Parker, Davids, Jenas and probably one or two others are better or AT LEAST as good as the lad, don't give me this garbage about him being defensive either, a centre mids a centre mid and thats that.
stu_the_red wrote:banana wrote:stu_the_red wrote:He'll be a good player in a couple of years. Shown signs of promise early on. Not ready for the first team on a regular basis in my opinion but he's improving and learning.
We still need a right winger though and i am not liking what i'm hearing. (Nothing). Hopefully we can get a good one signed up before the end of January. Bullard or Pennant would be nice, Joaquin would be great.
Why do you keep saying he isn't ready for the first team?
He is. And not only that, he is doing a brilliant job. Probably the second best defensive midfielder in england. (only behind Makelele). So what is your problem?
He's played about 20 games.
His passing is decent, not good, somteimes its woeful, see todays game... his tactical nouse is decent, not good and his lack of common sense when tackling is frightening.
As i've said many times, he's not ready on a regular basis. He is a good prospect and has potential, he'll become a really good player in time, however he's not there yet and has a way to go. He leaves holes when he "covers" all the ground, he gives the ball away cheaply and is careless at times aswell.
Banana, you don't have high standards of players, i know that from the way you bigged up Baros, your judgement of players is poor, no doubt that isn't helped by the fact you don't go to games.
Sissoko has potential, i like him alot as a player. But learning his trade in the reserves making the odd appearance from the start and alot of sub appearances at his age won't do him any harm at all.
I'd rather see a better more complete midfielder in there with Xabi or Stevey in there with a class right winger. As for you saying he's the second best in the country thats laughable I'm affraid. He'll never be that good and isn't anywhere near the top 5 or 6 in the league, let alone the top two.
Gerrard, Alonso, Essien, Makalele, Gilberto Silva, Scholes, Lampard, Parker, Davids, Jenas and probably one or two others are better or AT LEAST as good as the lad, don't give me this garbage about him being defensive either, a centre mids a centre mid and thats that.
banana wrote:stu_the_red wrote:banana wrote:stu_the_red wrote:He'll be a good player in a couple of years. Shown signs of promise early on. Not ready for the first team on a regular basis in my opinion but he's improving and learning.
We still need a right winger though and i am not liking what i'm hearing. (Nothing). Hopefully we can get a good one signed up before the end of January. Bullard or Pennant would be nice, Joaquin would be great.
Why do you keep saying he isn't ready for the first team?
He is. And not only that, he is doing a brilliant job. Probably the second best defensive midfielder in england. (only behind Makelele). So what is your problem?
He's played about 20 games.
His passing is decent, not good, somteimes its woeful, see todays game... his tactical nouse is decent, not good and his lack of common sense when tackling is frightening.
As i've said many times, he's not ready on a regular basis. He is a good prospect and has potential, he'll become a really good player in time, however he's not there yet and has a way to go. He leaves holes when he "covers" all the ground, he gives the ball away cheaply and is careless at times aswell.
Banana, you don't have high standards of players, i know that from the way you bigged up Baros, your judgement of players is poor, no doubt that isn't helped by the fact you don't go to games.
Sissoko has potential, i like him alot as a player. But learning his trade in the reserves making the odd appearance from the start and alot of sub appearances at his age won't do him any harm at all.
I'd rather see a better more complete midfielder in there with Xabi or Stevey in there with a class right winger. As for you saying he's the second best in the country thats laughable I'm affraid. He'll never be that good and isn't anywhere near the top 5 or 6 in the league, let alone the top two.
Gerrard, Alonso, Essien, Makalele, Gilberto Silva, Scholes, Lampard, Parker, Davids, Jenas and probably one or two others are better or AT LEAST as good as the lad, don't give me this garbage about him being defensive either, a centre mids a centre mid and thats that.
You mix good post with garbage. This is garbage. Players like Sissoko in the reserves? Are you having a laugh pal? He is one of the best defensive midfielders in europe. He stings like a bee and moves like a butterfly. No Liverpool player win more tackles or duels than him. He ain't beautiful to watch like Ronaldihno or Zidane but he win you games. Sissoko in the reserves alongside Mellor and Raven? That's a waste of talent and garbage thinking. He was a regular a a title winning spanish team, he has numerous international caps and he has bags of skills and quality for such a young lad. Rafa has time and again praised Crouch and Sissoko's physicality on away games in the league. Who is better to protect Garcia and Alonso and making them shine? Getting points away to Everton and Bolton without Sissoko? Just let it go FFS Stu.
stu_the_red wrote:banana wrote:stu_the_red wrote:banana wrote:stu_the_red wrote:He'll be a good player in a couple of years. Shown signs of promise early on. Not ready for the first team on a regular basis in my opinion but he's improving and learning.
We still need a right winger though and i am not liking what i'm hearing. (Nothing). Hopefully we can get a good one signed up before the end of January. Bullard or Pennant would be nice, Joaquin would be great.
Why do you keep saying he isn't ready for the first team?
He is. And not only that, he is doing a brilliant job. Probably the second best defensive midfielder in england. (only behind Makelele). So what is your problem?
He's played about 20 games.
His passing is decent, not good, somteimes its woeful, see todays game... his tactical nouse is decent, not good and his lack of common sense when tackling is frightening.
As i've said many times, he's not ready on a regular basis. He is a good prospect and has potential, he'll become a really good player in time, however he's not there yet and has a way to go. He leaves holes when he "covers" all the ground, he gives the ball away cheaply and is careless at times aswell.
Banana, you don't have high standards of players, i know that from the way you bigged up Baros, your judgement of players is poor, no doubt that isn't helped by the fact you don't go to games.
Sissoko has potential, i like him alot as a player. But learning his trade in the reserves making the odd appearance from the start and alot of sub appearances at his age won't do him any harm at all.
I'd rather see a better more complete midfielder in there with Xabi or Stevey in there with a class right winger. As for you saying he's the second best in the country thats laughable I'm affraid. He'll never be that good and isn't anywhere near the top 5 or 6 in the league, let alone the top two.
Gerrard, Alonso, Essien, Makalele, Gilberto Silva, Scholes, Lampard, Parker, Davids, Jenas and probably one or two others are better or AT LEAST as good as the lad, don't give me this garbage about him being defensive either, a centre mids a centre mid and thats that.
You mix good post with garbage. This is garbage. Players like Sissoko in the reserves? Are you having a laugh pal? He is one of the best defensive midfielders in europe. He stings like a bee and moves like a butterfly. No Liverpool player win more tackles or duels than him. He ain't beautiful to watch like Ronaldihno or Zidane but he win you games. Sissoko in the reserves alongside Mellor and Raven? That's a waste of talent and garbage thinking. He was a regular a a title winning spanish team, he has numerous international caps and he has bags of skills and quality for such a young lad. Rafa has time and again praised Crouch and Sissoko's physicality on away games in the league. Who is better to protect Garcia and Alonso and making them shine? Getting points away to Everton and Bolton without Sissoko? Just let it go FFS Stu.
One of the best in Europe?
Banana, i know you aren't from Liverpool and you've never been to a game, you don't understand the passion for the sport in this city and you clearly don't know about the past or respect it.
Now what happened, was they'd bring players in, nurture them, teach them the Liverpool way by them making the odd first team appearance and playing reserve team football, then when they're ready they make there mark. Sissoko, and anyone who goes to the game will tell you this... is rash in the tackle, seriously lacks discipline and can be very sloppy with his passing much of the time. That isn't good enough for Liverpool's first team.
Cool Hand Luke wrote:After watching Sissoko play for Valencia for 45 minutes last season I wasn’t overly impressed, he looked as though he lacked balance and brains. I even questioned whether signing a new central midfielder was really a priority, giving Hamann and Biscan extensions and using our money to strengthen other areas of our team seemed more sensible to me.
But after a couple of games I could see I was wrong, Sissoko has definitely added something different to our team. He is one of the players who enjoys it when, as I like to say “the game is bought into the sewer”. I know Gerrard, Alonso and Hamann enjoy a tackle but they are pure footballers first, they enjoy playing good football, Sissoko enjoys the battle. His ability to cover loads of ground in a concentrated area has been a great asset to us this season, no more easy ride for opposition central midfielders.
I am somewhere in between what people have said concerning how good he is. He isn’t on the same level as Gerrard, Alonso or Hamann, YET! He has only been playing in central midfield since he was 18, and it shows. He is often naïve in his tackles and passing, but his positioning is surprisingly good for such a young player. But I think putting him in the reserves would be a complete waste of time, he is too good for that level. He is in his development years now, so he should be getting 40+ starts in a season when we will be easily be playing more then 60 games.
I don’t think he will be as good as Viera if I’m being honest, he doesn’t possess the same technical ability or passing, and although he is quiet strong in the tackle and in the fight, I think he could do would some more body strength, but this may come on in the next 2 years as he is still growing.
So in conclusion, he will turn out to be a very good signing for £5MIL. He isn’t quiet what you would expect as a first team player yet but there is only one way he is going to get to the level we want him to be at. He should be playing enough first team football to aid his development, while learning from the coaches and Rafa on the training ground.
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