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by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:30 pm

azriahmad wrote:Puddy Heskey, when was the last time we had a 30+ goals a season player?Let's jog the memory a bit.

Oh, yes, I remember. The last time was Rushie, was it in 1983/84 or 1986/87? Not even the prolific John Aldridge who played in the most fluently attacking football-playing Liverpool side with Barnes, Beardsley, Whelan, McMahon, Hansen of 1987/88 managed 30+ goals a season.

Fowler, Owen, Collymore, Heskey etc. never quite managed 30+ goals each a season even in their pomp. For one, the standard of defending and fitness has gone up by quite a bit in the EPL and it is not reasonable to expect a main striker to score 30+ a season unless the whole team goes through an exceptional season and we get drawn against minnows, who we can hammer by 6 or more goals in a match, in every round of the FA Cup anf the League Cup.

Get real.

Fowler scored 30+ goals in 3 consecutive seasons.

by **drummerphil** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:13 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
azriahmad wrote:Puddy Heskey, when was the last time we had a 30+ goals a season player?Let's jog the memory a bit.

Oh, yes, I remember. The last time was Rushie, was it in 1983/84 or 1986/87? Not even the prolific John Aldridge who played in the most fluently attacking football-playing Liverpool side with Barnes, Beardsley, Whelan, McMahon, Hansen of 1987/88 managed 30+ goals a season.

Fowler, Owen, Collymore, Heskey etc. never quite managed 30+ goals each a season even in their pomp. For one, the standard of defending and fitness has gone up by quite a bit in the EPL and it is not reasonable to expect a main striker to score 30+ a season unless the whole team goes through an exceptional season and we get drawn against minnows, who we can hammer by 6 or more goals in a match, in every round of the FA Cup anf the League Cup.

Get real.

Fowler scored 30+ goals in 3 consecutive seasons.

took the words out of my mouth there Lando mate.

by **Liverpool 4 EVA** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:34 pm

Sabre wrote:Each of which were signed the first season IIRC. When you don't know well a league, you stick to the players you know.

RUSHIE#9 also made the same point.

It was GLARINGLY obvious what Rafa was doing, by only buying what he knew at the time....But errr obviously not to everyone

by **seani.g** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:43 pm

In reply to the original posting ......."Im not ranting or moaning and am very happy with what rafa has brought in from spain except maybe garcia......" (I know thats not the right way to quote but....) So Garcia is the worst spanish signing?......I don't think so. There's only Alonso ahead of him for me the jury are still out on Pepe and Mori.

by **RAFABENITEZ** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:23 am

Puddy Heskey wrote:Im not ranting or moaning and am very happy with what rafa has brought in from spain except maybe garcia who although good give the ball away alot.But all the transfer rumours are about spanish players.Were goin have the spainish national team playin for us pretty soon by the looks of things.probably wouldnt be a bad think.But theres so much talent in other countries that i dont see why were not hearing hundreds of rumours of italians or germans or french etc.and before you say it yes there have been a few i know and we bought krompkamp.But im sure you all know what i mean.Im irish yes i will admit.but id like to see a few english names thrown about in there too.Id say irish players too but ive to admit we got very few good irish players except duff and keane and finnan and maybe on or two more.But a few names i can pronouce would be nice.Come lads there must be a few quality scousers around there just waiting to kick the mancs and chelsea boys in the .

im afraid not, we have just signed some guy named Aggero from some spanish team. Never listen do they?..............

by **primodua** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:09 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:Rafa's signings for LFC:

Josemi,
Alonso,
Nunez,
Garcia,
Morientes,
Reina,
Roque,
Barragan. All Spanish. (8.)

Signings from UK:

Carson,
Hobbs,
Anderson,
Crouch,
Calliste,
MK Dons 'keeper. (6.)

Others:

Kromkamp (Holland),
Sissoko (Mali),
Pellegrinho (Argentina),
Zenden (Holland),
Antwi (Ghana),
Idrizadj (Austria).

That's 8 Spaniards from 20 signings.

Not so bad after all.

puddy heskey.... where are you? We demand your participation!

by **DaznKurupt** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:26 am

laza wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Rafa's signings for LFC:

Josemi,
Alonso,
Nunez,
Garcia,
Morientes,
Reina,
Roque,
Barragan. All Spanish. (8.)

Signings from UK:

Carson,
Hobbs,
Anderson,
Crouch,
Calliste,
MK Dons 'keeper. (5.)

Others:

Kromkamp (Holland),
Sissoko (Mali),
Pellegrinho (Argentina),
Zenden (Holland),
Antwi (Ghana),
Idrizadj (Austria).

That's 8 Spaniards from 19 signings.

Not so bad after all.

And technically Rafa didnt have much choice with Nunez as it was part of Owen deal.

Sissoko and Pellegrino came from the spanish league.This brings the number of players signed from the spanish league by benitez to 10 out of 19 signings.

And so far only four have proved capable of playing in the first team,that is:reina,alonso,garcia and sissoko.

The others including motientes have proved to be :censored:

signings

by **66-1112520797** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:29 am

Welcome Daz ^^^

by **DaznKurupt** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:44 am

Bamaga man wrote:Welcome Daz ^^^

Hi Bamaga man.
I used to post at .tv until recently when they changed the posting hours....in between that time i've been banned from theroadend and RAWK for text speak!

How're these boards?

by **66-1112520797** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:53 am

There good boards many are knowledgable fans post on here, good humour and light to heavy banter. Er..... word of warning I think some of the older folk cant read all that text stuff and you will do well rembering that. :;):

If drunk or you want to post babble head to the general chat Im sure theres a thread down there for that.

Welcome and enjoy

by **DaznKurupt** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:58 am

Bamaga man wrote:There good boards many are knowledgable fans post on here, good humour and light to heavy banter. Er..... word of warning I think some of the older folk cant read all that text stuff and you will do well rembering that.

If drunk or you want to post babble head to the general chat Im sure theres a thread down there for that.

Welcome and enjoy

thnx mate

by **DaznKurupt** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:06 am

shouldnt we be looking for defenders in the italian league?

The defenders we have got from the spanish league.josemi and pellegrino,have been very disappointing.

Just hope the new dutch guy will fit in

by **jonnymac1979** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:48 pm

DaznKurupt wrote:I used to post at .tv until recently when they changed the posting hours....in between that time i've been banned from theroadend and RAWK for text speak!

And banned from here for posting pictures of the KKK you piece of shit.

Don't PM me again asking to be re-instated, and I've logged your IP in case you try and log on with a different webmail address.

by **Erica** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:59 pm

DaznKurupt wrote:shouldnt we be looking for defenders in the italian league?

The defenders we have got from the spanish league.josemi and pellegrino,have been very disappointing.

Just hope the new dutch guy will fit in

Of course Pellegrino and Josemi are poor players, but the reason is not because they play in the Spanish League. The reason is simply because they are players below the quality we need.
But the best defender I have ever seen is Spanish and he plays in the Spanish league. His name is Puyol. I assure that he would be the perfect player for our team. The problem is that there is no way we can buy him.

by **primodua** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:07 am

Erica wrote:
DaznKurupt wrote:shouldnt we be looking for defenders in the italian league?

The defenders we have got from the spanish league.josemi and pellegrino,have been very disappointing.

Just hope the new dutch guy will fit in

Of course Pellegrino and Josemi are poor players, but the reason is not because they play in the Spanish League. The reason is simply because they are players below the quality we need.
But the best defender I have ever seen is Spanish and he plays in the Spanish league. His name is Puyol. I assure that he would be the perfect player for our team. The problem is that there is no way we can buy him.

If I may add, they (pellegrino and josemi) didn't fit in the "family". They couldn't play with the team and rafa knew it from the start. Managers take serious risks when signing players. Both players are highly rated in La Liga but why couldn't they shine in the premiership?

Simple, they cannot work with the team.

The way i look at it, rafa is trying to find players that can complement every players in the squad. For instance krompkamp and agger are highly rated players but if they cannot work with big boys like finnan, carragher, hyypia, gerrard, alonso, kewell and the rest, i'm pretty sure that they'll both end up like pellegrino and josemi.

Rafa had transformed Valencia from a rigid non-scoring team into a total-football, ar.se kicking team based on the same formula. It is the same formula he is injecting into the team without having to spent so much on excellent but expensive players.

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