Liverpool FC Forum

by **Puddy Heskey** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:39 pm

Im not ranting or moaning and am very happy with what rafa has brought in from spain except maybe garcia who although good give the ball away alot.But all the transfer rumours are about spanish players.Were goin have the spainish national team playin for us pretty soon by the looks of things.probably wouldnt be a bad think.But theres so much talent in other countries that i dont see why were not hearing hundreds of rumours of italians or germans or french etc.and before you say it yes there have been a few i know and we bought krompkamp.But im sure you all know what i mean.Im irish yes i will admit.but id like to see a few english names thrown about in there too.Id say irish players too but ive to admit we got very few good irish players except duff and keane and finnan and maybe on or two more.But a few names i can pronouce would be nice.Come lads there must be a few quality scousers around there just waiting to kick the mancs and chelsea boys in the :censored:

.

by **Igor Zidane** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:46 pm

yes the is alot of young quality around(not spanish)and most of them are in our reserve team ,we have alot of quality to come thru so chill

by **Gaunt** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:47 pm

Carson, Crouch, that new Mk dons bloke, Kromkamp is dutch, Sissoko is from Mali, Hobbs, Antwi is from Ghana. They are all Rafas signings and its quite a few non spanish players there. He does sign English talent too and any other talent from any other country he finds it. He goes back to Spain as Spain is what he knows right now, he knows the players there inside out.

And for what its worth out of the starting line up against Luton 4 were English and one was Irish, Carson, Carra, Finnan, Gerrard, Crouch. So i'm not too worried about our line up mate we have quite a few homegrown players

by **Puddy Heskey** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:51 pm

Yeah i suppose.Id just like to get the next rooney,owen,giggs who were young starting off to go to liverpool.This is probably the only time in our history we dont have a 30+ goals a season player.Owen, fowler,rush etc.I realy think thats all this team needs and will be champions of europe once more.

by **MilitiaRusher** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:53 pm

I suppose when Heskey was revealed as our new acquisition you expected him to be our 30+ goals a season player.

by **Liverpool 4 EVA** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:20 pm

Puddy Heskey wrote:Im not ranting or moaning and am very happy with what rafa has brought in from spain except maybe garcia who although good give the ball away alot.But all the transfer rumours are about spanish players.Were goin have the spainish national team playin for us pretty soon by the looks of things.probably wouldnt be a bad think.But theres so much talent in other countries that i dont see why were not hearing hundreds of rumours of italians or germans or french etc.and before you say it yes there have been a few i know and we bought krompkamp.But im sure you all know what i mean.Im irish yes i will admit.but id like to see a few english names thrown about in there too.Id say irish players too but ive to admit we got very few good irish players except duff and keane and finnan and maybe on or two more.But a few names i can pronouce would be nice.Come lads there must be a few quality scousers around there just waiting to kick the mancs and chelsea boys in the .

Your post smacks of someone who doesn't know much about the current regime.

If you knew what you where talking about, then your post would never have been written.

Rafa has scouts absolutely EVERYWHERE.

You can't just go around signing players because you can pronounce their names.....

Rafa has put many things into place that didnt even exist under Houllier....

Under Rafas reign (if he stays long enough) I think we will see some great local lads come through.

Because of Rafa, the whole structure of the club is heading in such a healthy direction you wouldn't even believe.

You should try and learn about Liverpool FC a bit more mate.

by **A.B.** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:23 pm

We've been linked with a lot of players from all over the place.

We've currently been linked with Daniel Agger, who is playing for Brondby. Last time I checked, Brondby is not in Spain and Agger wasn't a Spaniard.

We've looked at Nemajna Vidic and Dario Srna, who play in Eastern Europe. We also gave trial to Bolanos who plays in Costa Rica.

At the moment we're linked with a defender from Sampdoria.

Basicaly you're talking out of your ass, no offence, but we're looking in all countries not just in Spain.

by **A.B.** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:28 pm

But a few names i can pronouce would be nice.Come lads there must be a few quality scousers around there just waiting to kick the mancs and chelsea boys in the

Name me 5 players who are scousers but good enough for the club. This season we've brought in youngsters from other academies because our own haven't been producing the goods.

by **Liverpool 4 EVA** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:33 pm

A.B. wrote:
But a few names i can pronouce would be nice.Come lads there must be a few quality scousers around there just waiting to kick the mancs and chelsea boys in the

Name me 5 players who are scousers but good enough for the club. This season we've brought in youngsters from other academies because our own haven't been producing the goods.

I was actually thinking the same thing when I read that statement A.B.

The guy is just spouting out things when he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Behind the scenes there is a BIG restructuring job going on, Rafa only just arrived and already we have come so far in such a short space of time....Some people will always find the most ridiculous things to complain about.....Especially those that dont know what theyre on about....

by **RUSHIE#9** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:30 am

The guy is just spouting out things when he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Behind the scenes there is a BIG restructuring job going on, Rafa only just arrived and already we have come so far in such a short space of time....Some people will always find the most ridiculous things to complain about.....Especially those that dont know what theyre on about....

We've been linked with a lot of players from all over the place.

Basicaly you're talking out of your , no offence, but we're looking in all countries not just in Spain.

Rafa has scouts absolutely EVERYWHERE.

You can't just go around signing players because you can pronounce their names.....

Rafa has put many things into place that didnt even exist under Houllier....

Agree with all of the above quotes -
Under houllier the academy was built and then as we all know Houliier then decided to decide it didn't exist and it's 'cos of this that there have been few scousers comin' through (GROUND BREAKING REVELATIONS I KNOW!

) but we're already seeing it starting to bear a bit of fruit.

Stevie Warnock has broken through and is looking more and more accomplished with every 1st team game he plays.

Darren Potter has had his fair share of games and although it looks as though he's going he's made a reasonable contribution.

Neil Mellor made a good contribution last season - the arseholenal and olympiakos games spring to mind were he scored two very important goals that helped shape our season when we were strugglimg for front players.

Adam Hammill is turning heads with his performances in the reserves this season and it won't be long before we see him getting a 1st team chance IMO.

As for only bringing players in from spain the manager has to know what he's getting for the vast sums of money that he's paying and when he first arrived Rafa knew the spanish players better than english and that was the main reason for the influx of spaniards but just look at the transfer rumour thread and you'll see that we are now tracking players from all over he world and i think the number of players being brought in from spain will drop in the foreseable future.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:42 am

Rafa's signings for LFC:

Josemi,
Alonso,
Nunez,
Garcia,
Morientes,
Reina,
Roque,
Barragan. All Spanish. (8.)

Signings from UK:

Carson,
Hobbs,
Anderson,
Crouch,
Calliste,
MK Dons 'keeper. (6.)

Others:

Kromkamp (Holland),
Sissoko (Mali),
Pellegrinho (Argentina),
Zenden (Holland),
Antwi (Ghana),
Idrizadj (Austria).

That's 8 Spaniards from 20 signings.

Not so bad after all.

by **laza** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:02 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:Rafa's signings for LFC:

Josemi,
Alonso,
Nunez,
Garcia,
Morientes,
Reina,
Roque,
Barragan. All Spanish. (8.)

Signings from UK:

Carson,
Hobbs,
Anderson,
Crouch,
Calliste,
MK Dons 'keeper. (5.)

Others:

Kromkamp (Holland),
Sissoko (Mali),
Pellegrinho (Argentina),
Zenden (Holland),
Antwi (Ghana),
Idrizadj (Austria).

That's 8 Spaniards from 19 signings.

Not so bad after all.

And technically Rafa didnt have much choice with Nunez as it was part of Owen deal.

by **azriahmad** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:43 am

Puddy Heskey, when was the last time we had a 30+ goals a season player?Let's jog the memory a bit.

Oh, yes, I remember. The last time was Rushie, was it in 1983/84 or 1986/87? Not even the prolific John Aldridge who played in the most fluently attacking football-playing Liverpool side with Barnes, Beardsley, Whelan, McMahon, Hansen of 1987/88 managed 30+ goals a season.

Fowler, Owen, Collymore, Heskey etc. never quite managed 30+ goals each a season even in their pomp. For one, the standard of defending and fitness has gone up by quite a bit in the EPL and it is not reasonable to expect a main striker to score 30+ a season unless the whole team goes through an exceptional season and we get drawn against minnows, who we can hammer by 6 or more goals in a match, in every round of the FA Cup anf the League Cup.

Get real.

by **azriahmad** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:48 am

I'm sure that in the future, we will still have an English or home grown core because Benitez has said that he will do his best to develop talents ourselves. I remembered that he did say that it is important to have players from England or the British Isles as they will be the core of the team, just like Gerrard and Carra are at the moment.

Rafa is no mug and he has walked away from transfer targets if the selling club pushes the deal to beyond Liverpool's valuation.

by **Sabre** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:47 am

Josemi,
Alonso,
Nunez,
Garcia,
Morientes,
Reina,
Roque,
Barragan.

Each of which were signed the first season IIRC. When you don't know well a league, you stick to the players you know. Signings like Crouch's will be more normal from now on. That is, if the people like the original poster give Rafa the time and patience he needs to work.

Roque? I missed that one. I wonder if it's the same Roque I saw playing once... I'll check.

Sometimes I think that if it was't for the CL final that we won, more people would ask to sack Rafa. I don't get it frankly, we've broken the big lie of the London press, "the top 3" thingy, biggest heap of cr.ap ever, and put the things in it's place (we'll win the league), but there are people who still finds reason to criticise even after an incredible streak of games.

Ok to be honest, after re reading the original poster he doesn't complain. Sorry for that

. But just in case somebody thinks that, here it is my post :laugh:

Liverpool FC Forum

Look away from spain for once - There are other countries in the world

Who is online