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by **A.B.** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:39 pm

What this article says is when we bid for Zigic, it could had been last summer. All it says that our bid was turned down and now West Ham want him.

Read the fecking article.

by **adamnbarrett** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:52 pm

drummerphil wrote:Dean Ashton for me........a young shearer in waiting........

don't want him then

by **bigmick** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:56 pm

I've never heard of this bloke but if it's true that we bid 5 million for him, you can safely conclude that after Kromkamp and then this fella nobody really knows what rafa's going to do. Occasionally you get a well touted signing like Reina, but more often than not he signs somebody who only the Champ Man addicts can offer any insight into. Nothing wrong in that IMHO but it makes the task of people like Welsh Wizard almost impossible.

by **Leonmc0708** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:47 pm

bigmick wrote:..............it makes the task of people like Welsh Wizard almost impossible.

Nothing is impossible for the Welsh Wizard.

I wait with baited breath for his next pearl.

by **Paul C** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:37 am

drummerphil wrote:Dean Ashton for me........a young shearer in waiting........

Agreed there Phil, Ashton is a goal machine and will score goals inside the box which is somethin we have missed since MO left and Fowler before him, plus the lad is still quite young

I say put a £6m bid in for him and he's just at the chance especially since he's from the North west (Crewe).

by **red37** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:10 am

Paul C wrote:
drummerphil wrote:Dean Ashton for me........a young shearer in waiting........

Agreed there Phil, Ashton is a goal machine and will score goals inside the box which is somethin we have missed since MO left and Fowler before him, plus the lad is still quite young

I say put a £6m bid in for him and he's just at the chance especially since he's from the North west (Crewe).

id trust ashton more than the idea of anelka coming back, put it that way.
we've had enough sulking frenchmen.

by **115-1073096938** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:15 am

Anelka's reputation goes before him. The lad was a class player. I'd have him back in a shot and i think he'd be a top class signing for us and would immensely improve our side.

by **red37** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:23 am

its a shame houllier couldnt see that when he was here last time....i just think he'd cause rafa a few problems. i tell you one thing though. the lad needs to feel wanted in order to see the best out of him, maybe it could work ?

you get the impression that benitez has an 'if your in your in, if your not sure, prefer your own way or cant be ar5ed your out philosophy'

is anelka able to learn all over

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:38 am

A big no to Anelka I think. He just doesn't fit into a "team-comes-first" philosophy.
Unless he is the top star at a club and the team plays around him, he gets the hump on and moves again.

He is what, 25? How many different clubs has he played for? PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, PSG again, LFC, Man City, Real Madrid and his current one Fernebache I believe. Any more? I can't remember.
6 clubs is a heck of a lot to say he has so much ability.
He is just a "sulking Frenchman" as red37 puts it!

(Stu - I agree he'd massively improve our forward line, but it's his attitude that lets him down. He seems a bit like Collymore in that respect.)

by **115-1073096938** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:42 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:A big no to Anelka I think. He just doesn't fit into a "team-comes-first" philosophy.
Unless he is the top star at a club and the team plays around him, he gets the hump on and moves again.

He is what, 25? How many different clubs has he played for? PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, PSG again, LFC, Man City, Real Madrid and his current one Fernebache I believe. Any more? I can't remember.
6 clubs is a heck of a lot to say he has so much ability.
He is just a "sulking Frenchman" as red37 puts it!

(Stu - I agree he'd massively improve our forward line, but it's his attitude that lets him down. He seems a bit like Collymore in that respect.)

I don't think he's been a problem to anyone since Paris. Never kicked up a fuss at an average city side or here. Houllier never went with him, understandable as i said at the time, however i feel he was a risk worth taking, he was brilliant in patches for us and i'd have him back at the click of a finger.

by **red37** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:46 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:A big no to Anelka I think. He just doesn't fit into a "team-comes-first" philosophy.
Unless he is the top star at a club and the team plays around him, he gets the hump on and moves again.

He is what, 25? How many different clubs has he played for? PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, PSG again, LFC, Man City, Real Madrid and his current one Fernebache I believe. Any more? I can't remember.
6 clubs is a heck of a lot to say he has so much ability.
He is just a "sulking Frenchman" as red37 puts it!

(Stu - I agree he'd massively improve our forward line, but it's his attitude that lets him down. He seems a bit like Collymore in that respect.)

thats some CV he's got..you'd be thinking having all that experience anelka would be a steal

i aint sure he has had the RIGHT kind of tuition so far. but he certainly has been round the block...

besides he is too similar to cisse and whether its right or wrong, he seems to be on a long walk off a short plank at the moment.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:30 am

stu_the_red wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:A big no to Anelka I think. He just doesn't fit into a "team-comes-first" philosophy.
Unless he is the top star at a club and the team plays around him, he gets the hump on and moves again.

He is what, 25? How many different clubs has he played for? PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, PSG again, LFC, Man City, Real Madrid and his current one Fernebache I believe. Any more? I can't remember.
6 clubs is a heck of a lot to say he has so much ability.
He is just a "sulking Frenchman" as red37 puts it!

(Stu - I agree he'd massively improve our forward line, but it's his attitude that lets him down. He seems a bit like Collymore in that respect.)

I don't think he's been a problem to anyone since Paris. Never kicked up a fuss at an average city side or here. Houllier never went with him, understandable as i said at the time, however i feel he was a risk worth taking, he was brilliant in patches for us and i'd have him back at the click of a finger.

I'd certainly consider a loan move with a view to a permanant deal, but I feel he's just too mardy to buy outright.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:36 am

red37 wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:A big no to Anelka I think. He just doesn't fit into a "team-comes-first" philosophy.
Unless he is the top star at a club and the team plays around him, he gets the hump on and moves again.

He is what, 25? How many different clubs has he played for? PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, PSG again, LFC, Man City, Real Madrid and his current one Fernebache I believe. Any more? I can't remember.
6 clubs is a heck of a lot to say he has so much ability.
He is just a "sulking Frenchman" as red37 puts it!

(Stu - I agree he'd massively improve our forward line, but it's his attitude that lets him down. He seems a bit like Collymore in that respect.)

thats some CV he's got..you'd be thinking having all that experience anelka would be a steal

i aint sure he has had the RIGHT kind of tuition so far. but he certainly has been round the block...

besides he is too similar to cisse and whether its right or wrong, he seems to be on a long walk off a short plank at the moment.

There are two similarities between them, starting with pace and ending with attitude.
There is a gulf in class between them, with Anelka being an unbelieveable player when he puts his mind to it.
Cisse relies far too much on pace and power, whereas Nico has a real quality to his finishing aswell. He can make the opposition look foolish with his skill, but Cisse only outpaces, never outplays.

Once again - a loan deal with a view to a permanent move - brilliant.
Up to £4m - OK.
Anything above that? - Not worth the risk IMO.

by **Sabre** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:08 pm

IMHO, no, we don't need a striker. 21 goals, 10 victories and one draw are numbers of a great team.

Teams that sign in winter is usually because they really lack somethig, i.e., Newcastle and their plague of injuries. IMHO it was last year, when we had to see playing Neil Mellor, when we needed a striker. We don't have to play Mellor anymore, because we have Sinama, who we haven't seen enough of him, but he's already showing that can help (Betis, Luton).

The point of a team is making goals, and whereas they do not score much, our strikers (Crouch and Morientes) help to score goals. We have Cisse, and we have Sinama. We also have the option of LG as a second striker.

So if we attend to good financial customs, we should not waste our money in something we don't badly need. I don't know how are the economics right now or if we are going to receive economic help from a Merkin.

CGGY says we need an "out and out" striker. To improve what we already have, that means LOTS of money, and if you do that in winter, that means absurd amount of money.

Unless we signed Nihat. Hehe. I'm a bit dissapointed Rafa hasn't tried to sign him up, because he rated him highly when he talked about him.

by **Judge** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:32 pm

rafa wants just two more players this january, from reports, and a striker aint one of them

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