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by **mighty mo** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:18 pm

how can you move the most devastating dangerous powerful CM midfielder in the world today to a permanant RW,your logic is astounding,he was only playing there temporary until we get a RW in january

by **desperado0831** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:21 pm

Gerrard is definitely a defensive midfielder. He is the dynamo in the center stage of our team. If he's a AM, why he always bother to go back and defend and tackling..

by **mighty mo** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:23 pm

he's not a defensive midfielder?

by **RAFABENITEZ** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:24 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:No.

il second that!

by **Effes** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:25 pm

Wait wait wait...

You cant say Stevie G is just AM or DM because basically he gets everywhere.
My opinion is that he is devastating going forward when we have the ball, and a colossus tackling when we dont.
He's the all round midfielder - he's a colossus.

But you can add that there is not a better right back in the country!!!
He's just superb wherever you play him and if Rafa put him on the right for certain games I'm sure he'd still come inside when we dont have the ball to help out.

by **RAFABENITEZ** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:25 pm

desperado0831 wrote:Gerrard is definitely a defensive midfielder. He is the dynamo in the center stage of our team. If he's a AM, why he always bother to go back and defend and tackling..

because everyone has to defend nowdays, its the way Rafa wants it.

by **JC_81** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:29 pm

Gerrard is the type of player who has such a good all round game that you could probably play him in any position on the field (bar goalkeeper of course) and he'd do a decent job.

His athleticism and stamina mean that he is probably wasted playing anywhere else but in midfield, but he'd be just as good as any left mid/defensive centre mid/attacking centre mid/right mid in the country. He's that good.

Undoubtedly he's at his best playing in centre mid just ahead of a more defensive minded centre mid. I wouldn't permanently convert him to right wing, but if the team requires it as it does now then theres nothing wrong with playing him there. Even if you remove Gerrard from the centre, Sissoko and Alonso are a match for any other central midfield pairing in the country.

Gerrard can exert almost as much influence on a game starting out wide by switching flanks and drifting infield or hitting the byline as he does by starting in the centre.

by **Effes** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:30 pm

john craig wrote:Gerrard is the type of player who has such a good all round game that you could probably play him in any position on the field (bar goalkeeper of course) and he'd do a decent job.

His athleticism and stamina mean that he is probably wasted playing anywhere else but in midfield, but he'd be just as good as any left mid/defensive centre mid/attacking centre mid/right mid in the country. He's that good.

Undoubtedly he's at his best playing in centre mid just ahead of a more defensive minded centre mid. I wouldn't permanently convert him to right wing, but if the team requires it as it does now then theres nothing wrong with playing him there. Even if you remove Gerrard from the centre, Sissoko and Alonso are a match for any other central midfield pairing in the country.

Gerrard can exert almost as much influence on a game starting out wide by switching flanks and drifting infield or hitting the byline as he does by starting in the centre.

Totally agree.

We are talking about someone who in years to come will be known as one of the greats.

by **Tiiger** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:36 pm

john craig wrote:Gerrard is the type of player who has such a good all round game that you could probably play him in any position on the field (bar goalkeeper of course) and he'd do a decent job.

His athleticism and stamina mean that he is probably wasted playing anywhere else but in midfield, but he'd be just as good as any left mid/defensive centre mid/attacking centre mid/right mid in the country. He's that good.

Undoubtedly he's at his best playing in centre mid just ahead of a more defensive minded centre mid. I wouldn't permanently convert him to right wing, but if the team requires it as it does now then theres nothing wrong with playing him there. Even if you remove Gerrard from the centre, Sissoko and Alonso are a match for any other central midfield pairing in the country.

Gerrard can exert almost as much influence on a game starting out wide by switching flanks and drifting infield or hitting the byline as he does by starting in the centre.

Em... maybe I should have added the word "temporarily" to my first post. Anyway, if we can't obtain a RM who is equal or better than Joaquin, we'd better buy a DC or striker instead and use Stevie as a TEMPORARY solution.

by **desperado0831** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:38 pm

So we should call him a 'PLAYMAKER'. Ya, now only i got this word up rush to my head.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:39 pm

desperado0831 wrote:Gerrard is definitely a defensive midfielder. He is the dynamo in the center stage of our team. If he's a AM, why he always bother to go back and defend and tackling..

He's clearly not a defensive midfielder. Defensive midfielders are the likes of Sissoko, Hamann and even to some extent Alonso. Just because Gerrard has the ability to play there doesn't make him that style of player.

I honestly think he has changed his game somewhat over the years, early on in his career he was likened as a player to rival Keane and Vieira, but very quickly became the playmaker instead. You can see this difference in the Champions League Cup Final, if we're being honest Kaka was all over our midfield - not even Gerrard could get near him. It was only when a suitable defensive midfielder was substituted on, namely mr.hamann, that the balance was restored and allowed Gerrard to become the playmaker he is so good at being.

by **bigmick** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:12 pm

I'm not totally convinced by this "natural position" stuff as far as central midfield is concerned. I said it a few weeks ago and I say it again now, Gerrard is the best right-midfielder in England or from England bar none. I include in that SWP or any of the Chelsea four, Goldenballs and whoever else you care to name. His pace, power, stamina and skill mean that whoever plays against him when he plays wide, spends all or almost all of his time trying to contain Gerrard and practically none going forward himself. I'd be surprised if theres a left-midfielder in the World who would relish playing against him, or for that matter a right-midfielder who is better.
If you named a World X1 tomorrow my suspicion is that Stevie probably (and I know I'm at risk of being slaughtered here) wouldn't make it. At right-midfield, who knows? Erriksonn has obviously started to consider the prospect as he has stated that he's looking for a holding midfielder, presumeably to play with Far Frank.
The temptation is always to play your best players in the centre because the feeling is that they'll be involved more. There's almost always more space out wide though, and the role that Stevie plays for us is very fluid making it very tough for anybody to man-mark him (although amazingly nobody has tried yet since he moved out wide to the best of my knowledge). He is scoring and creating goals like theres no tomorrow and winning MOM plaudits every week. Natural position? I'm not sure I've ever seen Steven Gerrard play better than he has these last few weeks.

by **dawson99** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:18 pm

Like ive said it all depends on if we are home or away, and who the opposistion is. when away from home rafa loves playing sissoko and alonso with gerrard on the right. at hmoe tho gerrard is given more freedom. gerrard is class because he is a bit more flexible. Try putting fatty lampard on the right, hed be a big slob of uselessness

by **Effes** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:21 pm

bigmick wrote:If you named a World X1 tomorrow my suspicion is that Stevie probably (and I know I'm at risk of being slaughtered here) wouldn't make it.

He was in L'Equipe's World XI

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:24 pm

RM or CM

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