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by **IstanBuL-FenerBaHce** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:51 pm

Luciano Galletti / Atl.Madrid > Argentinian right winger-born in 1980. After his Arg. team Estudiantes, he went to Italy and played for Parma and Napoli. He failed in his Serie A experience and came back to Estudiantes. In 2001 he was signed by Zaragoza and played for 4 seasons.

Last year he played against Fenerbahce(UEFA Cup) and scored two goals, he was the most dangerous player called my attention in Zaragoza.

He has excellent shooting-dribbling and crossing abilities.. Quality winger..

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:52 am

Last year he played against Fenerbahce(UEFA Cup) and scored two goals, he was the most dangerous player called my attention in Zaragoza.He has excellent shooting-dribbling and crossing abilities.. Quality winger..

Thank you for the info. But he played vs with Fenerbahce. Different Level of football. Some player, they are good in other league but when they change to EPL,they just cant perform.

by **IstanBuL-FenerBaHce** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:56 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:Thank you for the info. But he played vs with Fenerbahce. Different Level of football. Some player, they are good in other league but when they change to EPL,they just cant perform.

Right, but he can succeed in EPL-i think.

Anyway, Sabre knows better as a Spain-based member, he can mention more about him

by **Sabre** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:06 pm

I think you are right Istanbul. And I think that with this stereotype

Some player, they are good in other league but when they change to EPL,they just cant perform.

we wouldn't have signed Alonso, nor Reina.

The EPL is a GREAT league. One of the best, and my favourite one (with the liga). But it's not the NBA of football neither. I think there's still some stereotypes about the path of the EPL games. While I think it's fast, I don't think it's any faster than the Liga. There's less interruptions, that's true, and the Ref allows more contact, that's true. But pacewise, I don't think Alonso had troubles, or Luis Garcia for that matter. An Argentinian international would do more than ok anywhere.

BTW, The Turkish are no c.rap teams. Not only Fenerbace or Galataray or Besiktas, second rate teams like Tranzonspor could give you a hard afternoon.

That there are players that won't perform is true, in every league, but they don't perform well in the league or the team? I think Cisse might have been a success in another team that is more defensive than Liverpool.

by **66-1112520797** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:30 pm

Sabre wrote:While I think it's fast, I don't think it's any faster than the Liga. There's less interruptions, that's true, and the Ref allows more contact, that's true.

I have to disagree there I think the pace of English football is quicker to that of La Liga and because the ref allows the game to flow more this helps for a higher tempo game.

If that were true and the pace of the Spanish game was as quick,combine that with the technique of the Spanish game and in theory you would have perfect football in a sense.
The closest I have come to seeing this was in our CL match at Anfield against Juve (1st half) . We ripped them apart with the combination of both and we looked unstoppable.

by **Sabre** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:36 pm

I have to disagree there I think the pace of English football is quicker to that of La Liga and because the ref allows the game to flow more this helps for a higher tempo game.

If that were true and the pace of the Spanish game was as quick,combine that with the technique of the Spanish game and in theory you would have perfect football in a sense.
The closest I have come to seeing this was in our CL match at Anfield against Juve (1st half) . We ripped them apart with the combination of both and we looked unstoppable.

I think that was right for a while. In the eighties and before. But we've gained in pace, and you have improved your technique. English players in the liga are as technical as the best Spaniards. My point is that everybody is learning, from the eighties we've learnt that tempo is important. You've learnt to maintain your good customs in football (pace, discipline, fight) but at the same time you've "Europeized" a bit aswell, which is nice.

About the tempo you are bloody right, there are less interrumptions. When I speak of pace I'm talking about the way the ball moves, and intensity of pressure. Our football in the eighties, was a bit like Saprissa's good techinque, slow pace, press while walking. We've learnt. So you have. (IMHO)

Of course not all the leagues are at the same level. I think it's the most important ones (Italy, Germany, England, Spain) the ones that have improved and at the same time "standardize" with the others. I think we should renew some stereotypes. Oh, and the French league is not c.rap anymore, BTW,a as it used to be.

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:24 pm

Right, but he can succeed in EPL-i think.

I just hope that he can cope the way in EPL. :;):

by **Erica** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:36 pm

I have seen Galletti playing many times in Zaragoza, and I still doubt that he would be a good player for Liverpool. He has brilliant matches and then the next one he's rubbish. His main asset is that he is fast and creates chances, but very often his crosses are out of target and he is not a goal scorer. He usually gets 3 or 4 per season. He scored a brilliant goal in the extra time against Real Madrid, but he does not do that very often. The right price for this player is two million pounds, never more. Last season in Zaragoza he was not playing in the initial team, because Cani -this is a better player than Galletti- took his place in the right wing. And he complained, and complained, and complained. It is something similar to the case we have had with Cissé this year.

by **Sabre** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:58 pm

I know Cani too. He's promising, but I rate Galleti quite more. Who was going to be Galleti's sub in Zaragoza? Ewerthon right?, that's the kind of player that is showy (Brazilian) but at the end of the season Galleti would win him the place in the squad. Do you agree?

I've been told too, that the complaints of Galleti were concerning to moving to a bigger club.

And thanks for the insight, you know Zaragoza well.

by **Erica** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:13 pm

Sabre wrote:I know Cani too. He's promising, but I rate Galleti quite more. Who was going to be Galleti's sub in Zaragoza? Ewerthon right?, that's the kind of player that is showy (Brazilian) but at the end of the season Galleti would win him the place in the squad. Do you agree?

I've been told too, that the complaints of Galleti were concerning to moving to a bigger club.

And thanks for the insight, you know Zaragoza well.

Ewerton and Galletti play in different positions, Sabre. Ewerton is a second forward, not a right wing. You say that Ewerton is showy, but he has scored 8 goals in 3 months (6 in League and 2 in the Cup). This is double of what Galletti gets in the whole year. Regarding Cani, this is the one who plays on the right. I will tell you that he has only scored twice, but you must know that he is the player with more assists (7) of the Spanish League. More than Riquelme or Ronaldinho, just to name two of the best. Cani was promising the previous years. Now he is a good player, and I would not change him for Galletti in any case. By the way, Galletti moved to Atco. Madrid because he wanted to earn more money than in Zaragoza, you are right. Atco. Madrid used to be a bigger team than Zaragoza, but in the last ten years Zaragoza has won 3 Cups of the king, 1 European Winners Cup and 1 Supercopa. That makes 5 titles in the last decade. How many titles has Atco. Madrid won? I will tell you:0. So talking about Atco. Madrid being a bigger club right now is very debatable.
If Cissé leaves Liverpool and Galletti comes, in my opinion our red squad will be weaker, that is my opinion.

by **IstanBuL-FenerBaHce** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:12 pm

Erica wrote:
Sabre wrote:I've been told too, that the complaints of Galleti were concerning to moving to a bigger club.

Atco. Madrid used to be a bigger team than Zaragoza, but in the last ten years Zaragoza has won 3 Cups of the king, 1 European Winners Cup and 1 Supercopa. That makes 5 titles in the last decade. How many titles has Atco. Madrid won? I will tell you:0. So talking about Atco. Madrid being a bigger club right now is very debatable.

Being a big club cannot be considered with the titles only. LFC couldnt win any important titles between 1990-2000 but we are one of the 'bigs' all over the world even at that decade..

If we talk about Spain, thats my hierarchy: Barca, RM, A.Madrid, Valencia, Deportivo and others...that is nearly a general opinion..
Zaragoza?..I dont categorize them even in the first 12..

To be honest, Galletti, a player in that quality is right to complain..

by **Erica** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:27 pm

IstanBuL-FenerBaHce wrote:
Erica wrote:
Sabre wrote:I've been told too, that the complaints of Galleti were concerning to moving to a bigger club.

Atco. Madrid used to be a bigger team than Zaragoza, but in the last ten years Zaragoza has won 3 Cups of the king, 1 European Winners Cup and 1 Supercopa. That makes 5 titles in the last decade. How many titles has Atco. Madrid won? I will tell you:0. So talking about Atco. Madrid being a bigger club right now is very debatable.

Being a big club cannot be considered with the titles only. LFC couldnt win any important titles between 1990-2000 but we are one of the 'bigs' all over the world even at that decade..

If we talk about Spain, thats my hierarchy: Barca, RM, A.Madrid, Valencia, Deportivo and others...that is nearly a general opinion..
Zaragoza?..I dont categorize them even in the first 12..

To be honest, Galletti, a player in that quality is right to complain..

What are you talking about? Zaragoza is one of the five teams in Spain who have won European titles. I know, Atco. is another.
Besides, don't you remember our games against your team Fenerbache last year in the UEFA Cup. We beat you both games, home and away, easssssssssssssssilyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Happy Christmas anyway.

by **Sabre** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:41 pm

There's no need you get passionate Erica, it wasn't me who said Atco. Is a bigger club, it was him . :talktothehand

I know perfectly well what is Zaragoza's history, we've got a troll from there in our forums :laugh:

(besides, I knew)

You are right I haven't seen Ewerthon that much, just the 90 minutes in which we played and win in the Romareda this season (0-1) and Ewerthon didn't play that game as a second striker.

He was brought as a sub to Galleti, another whole different matter is that you have a promising winger (Cani) and the coach has decided that Ewerthon can play somewhere else.

I haven't seen that much Ewerthon because our Spanish Match of the Day, don't do thorough reports of the games as it used to do Estudio Estadio in it's time

Zaragoza for me is a Classic, similar to mine. you've won one league title (I think), we've won two, you've won a Cup winner cup (Nayim) and we've reached the semifinal of the Europe cup, and qualified for the Champions and UEFA more times than you have. All that with a city that it's the half of size of Zaragoza. :rasp

Ah, and we haven't known the second division for the last 40 years, Zaragoza and Atletico Madrid have :rasp

by **IstanBuL-FenerBaHce** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:48 pm

Erica wrote:What are you talking about? Zaragoza is one of the five teams in Spain who have won European titles. I know, Atco. is another.
Besides, don't you remember our games against your team Fenerbache last year in the UEFA Cup. We beat you both games, home and away, easssssssssssssssilyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Happy Christmas anyway.

I never make comparisons about FenerbahceSK, coz we are one of the worst unstable/unbalanced teams all over..

We were thinking that we "easssssssssssssssilyyyyyyyyyyyy" defeat you even without first team players,you were crisps for us, but you are right, you beat us both games..

Fb, team of big magnificences and big disappointments.. :sleepy:

Happy christmas :kungfu:

by **Erica** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:57 pm

Merry Christmas to all English Liverpool supporters, to the Turkish friend from that unstable team , and ¡Feliz Navidad to Sabre, our friend from Donosti! ¡Gora la Real!

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