A couple of comments, if you wish to continue to feed my endless curiosity
traveling away has changed considerably since the 80's when you were treated like something the police and stewards had found on the bottom of their boots
Why did they did that? For what I know reading about the Hillsborough tragedy and comments here, people going to stadiums were more working class than now. Why would the police, that works for the government, to
off so much the people? I know the reputation of Margaret Thatcher but... had the politics something to do with it, or it was just that the police's ways were old and obsolete?Here the police know to be real bast*rds, but as long as you don't give much trouble, they will let you alone (I travel with the most "dangerous" of my team, but I manage to avoid police's stick!)
Away games tend to attract the more established fan base as to qualify for a ticket you have to have a season ticket and with the loyalty system also have away credits from the previous season. With most away grounds seling approx 2-3,000 tickets to LFC fans it's not uncommon to see the same faces at away games.
Interesting idea!!!!. Here the away club send a number of tickets to the club, who distributes the tickets to the Peñas. Then there's the polemics between the peñas, who claim the tickets as they are the most faithful fans, and occasional buyers, that claim their right to see a show if they pay. I think all that stuff of the loyalty points very interesting and fair!
What I can say about Away games is that despite the obvious fewer number of LFC fans they almost always stir the place up a bit and make a noise which is more than can be said for Anfield unless we are playing Man Spew or Everton
LOL, It's amazing how the same comments arise in different countries. It's just that in another whole different scale. Here, we complain that in normal games (Betis, Villareal) the atmosphere is like a cemetery, unless we have Bilbao or Madrid on front of us. It's funny somehow, that a fan of a crowd that we put as an example of supporting and noise, complains about the atmosphere in Anfield!
BTW, your comments about stablished crowd are veryt fair and I agree. Here, the ones of season tickets are called "partners" of the club (after all it's a club with members), and the partners are the ones who fill the stadium mostly (80%) and actually have the weight of thinking about the club. Of course with this transformation to "Anonymous societies" (that's to say to allow anyone buy shares of your team and own it), the partners have lost much weight in decission, but not in opinion, and we lead pretty much what the press says then about the team.
Thank you for taking time to answer my dumb questions!
