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Postby A.B. » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:32 pm

liamac wrote:ye rotten sod :D  :D   

I know that Fiorentina used to have Batistuta play for them a few years back ,but i honestly thought that they were on their knees financially like a lot of italian clubs.
At the moment i would of thought theyd have the same clout as AstonVilla  and so would have no chance of winning trophies :D

They're doing well this season, I think they're 3rd in the league. They trashed AC Milan 3-1 last week.  :O
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Postby tubby » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:57 pm

It wont last without proper financia backing for players. Its kind of like wigan. There gonna drop eventually. Im not saying they will get relegated but they wont be in the top 4 of serie a come the end of the season. I dont knwo why we dont go after vincent kompany. we can afford him easily
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Postby L-type » Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:17 pm

Because Chelski want him, and I think everyone's learned not to mess with their targets...
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Postby A.B. » Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:19 pm

bavlondon wrote:It wont last without proper financia backing for players. Its kind of like wigan. There gonna drop eventually. Im not saying they will get relegated but they wont be in the top 4 of serie a come the end of the season. I dont knwo why we dont go after vincent kompany. we can afford him easily

Yes Wigan have done well but they haven't trashed any of the top teams. Kompany is either Chelsea or Milan bound. We can afford him but the two clubs can afford double what we can.
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Postby liamac » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:12 am

A.B. wrote:
liamac wrote:ye rotten sod :D  :D   

I know that Fiorentina used to have Batistuta play for them a few years back ,but i honestly thought that they were on their knees financially like a lot of italian clubs.
At the moment i would of thought theyd have the same clout as AstonVilla  and so would have no chance of winning trophies :D

They're doing well this season, I think they're 3rd in the league. They trashed AC Milan 3-1 last week.  :O

Bankrupted by years of mismanagement, Fiorentina were relegated to Italy's fourth division, Serie C2, in 2002.

One of Italy's most famous clubs lost its badge, name and even the right to wear the famous all-violet kit.



Just two years later, Fiorentina have announced their return to Serie A with a £20m summer spending spree.

BBC Sport looks at the extraordinary fall and rise of Fiorentina.


WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG?

Fiorentina's troubles began under former owner Vittorio Cecchi Gori, an ambitious media mogul who borrowed £20m from the club's coffers to keep his empire afloat.


AC FIORENTINA'S DEMISE

November 2001: Players protest after going unpaid for three months
May 2002: Fiorentina relegated to Serie B for only the second time in their history
August 2002: Italian FA expel Fiorentina from Serie B because of financial problems 


By 2001 Fiorentina were a club in crisis - Gori faced charges of money laundering and cocaine possession and briefly handed control to his 82-year-old mother Valeria.

Unable to pay stars like Rui Costa and Nuno Gomes, Fiorentina ended the 2001-02 season in 19th place, dropping out of Serie A for only the second time in their history.

But when Gori was unable to raise the necessary money to register the team in Serie B, Italy's soccer authorities threw Fiorentina out of the division and the club, albeit briefly, ceased to exist.

Thanks to the intervention of wealthy businessman Diego Della Valle, a new club was formed under the name Fiorentina 1926 Fiorentia and allowed to compete in Serie C2.

With all the players released and the new club forbidden to even play in purple, the only remaining connection to Fiorentina was club captain Angelo di Livio, who accepted a massive pay cut to stay in Florence.



HOW DID THEY RETURN TO SERIE A SO QUICKLY?
A new squad was assembled and despite a slow start, Fiorentia comfortably won Serie C2.

VIOLA'S RETURN TO SERIE A

May 2003: 'Fiorentia' win Serie C2 and rise to Serie C1
August 2003: Controversially fast-tracked to Serie B on 'sporting merit'
June 2004: Defeat Perugia in play-off to return to Serie A 

In May 2003 Della Valle brought back the rights to the Fiorentina name and badge.

Three months later a controversial ruling from the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) allowed Fiorentina to skip Serie C1 and move up to Serie B.


Catania, Genoa, Cosenza and Salernitana ended the 2002-03 season in the Serie B relegation zone but a row over an ineligible player fielded by one of Catania's opponents saw all four teams escape relegation.

However, financial problems at Cosenza saw them subsequently expelled from Serie B with the FIGC controversially ruling Fiorentina should take the remaining place on "sporting merit".

With 24 teams starting last season in Serie B, the federation agreed five promotion spots would be available with the sixth-placed team earning a two-leg play-off against the fourth weakest Serie A side.

Fiorentina claimed sixth spot to grab the play-off place and after a 1-0 win in Perugia, 45,00 fans, including Batistuta, crammed into the Stadio Artemio Franchi to watch them seal promotion with a 1-1 draw.


WHAT NEXT FOR FIORENTINA?
Della Valle's deep pockets and the club's glamorous image mean Fiorentina can attract top-class players.

Serie A fixtures 

During the summer Della Valle financed the signing of 14 new players, including Juventus pair Fabrizio Miccoli and Enzo Maresca, Parma playmaker Hidetoshi Nakata and Udinese's Martin Jorgensen - all proven Serie A performers.

  Fiorentina definitely look capable of a Uefa Cup place.

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The Viola's fairytale return may owe much to Della Valle's millions and some favourable decisions from Italy's footballing authorities.

But for the Fiorentina tifosi, it is Di Livio who will be remembered as the club's guardian angel.



thought you might find it a good read  A.B. :rasp  :D
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Postby neil » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:19 am

where exactly does chris bascombe come into all this?
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Postby liamac » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:23 am

neil wrote:where exactly does chris bascombe come into all this?

if your asking about the Fiorentina stuff, absolutley no where .
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Postby neil » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:25 am

....I see.....
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:13 pm

A.B. wrote:
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A.B. wrote:Lando, it may not be that they beat us to him. It could be that they're willing to pay more for him and we may not value him the same way they do.

I thought he had a clause in his contract allowing him to talk to any club which offered £4.5m?

What about wages?  :rasp

Well if the silly-a*se would rather pick up a tenner a week extra at a second-rate Italian sh*thouse, then thats up to him!!!!!!  ???  :no  :D
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