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Postby Ciggy » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:09 pm

jonnymac1979 wrote:All joking aside Woolly, I’m serious.  I could start a thread with this though.  I still l might if this gets buried under more s*i*e.  I want to make a point to everyone much closer to home now.  When I say closer to home, I mean this message board.

It's every fucking day, everyone talks about racism and politics and bombings and murders and how shit the police are and whatever fucking else is on their political agenda......  this isn’t the place.  You wouldn’t believe the amount of complaints the mods get about these issues.

This used to be a fucking Liverpool Football Club Discussion forum, believe it or not.  Well, it was when I joined it two years ago anyway.

If it was up to me, I would delete threads like this after the first post.  Sorry Red Baron, but it’s got fuck all to do with anything this thread really has it?  Am I supposed to ‘moderate’ this?  It's not up to me though, I would run the risk of upsetting the other mods who are maybe more tolerant than me about this issue.  They might say live and let live, just see how the thread goes and we’ll keep an eye on it.  You'd struggle to even find a post on the Michael Shields case from me.  I go as far as posting my opinions on Hillsborough.  That's about as political as I get on here.

But why should I keep an eye on it?  I visit this site for a bit of Liverpool FC chat.  If I wanted to talk about racism, Id’ go to a fucking racism message board, or a politics message board.

This is ruining this forum though and I feel it is my responsibility to see that does not happen. 

The same members are responsible every day for threads like this, you know me, I love talking b*ll*c*ks on here as much as the next person, but I cannot stand the way this place is used as a political and racial discussion forum.  Really, I have fucking had enough.  I have spent twenty minutes trawling through PM’s this morning over some shit that went down last night.  None of it was about football, it was either about racist comments of the thread about the murdered WPC.  Plus a couple of spamming pricks who I will mention later today probably.

Where’s all the football chat gone?  I’ve been spending less and less time posting on here over the last five or six weeks cause there’s fuck all being spoken about, and then when I do offer an opinion on a FOOTBALL related matter, it gets fucking lost under all the politics and racism.

What the fuck, people?  This used to be good on here but there are some members who have thousands of posts to their name and about 1% of them might be about Liverpool Football Club.

Here’s where someone will dig up some old s*i*e posts of mine now and try to say “Practice what you preach, you wanker etc…..”.  Try it.  There are probably thousands of s*i*e posts by me.  I'm not saying there aren't.  See if I give a fuck though.  What I guarantee is you will not find ONE about politics or racism.  Not fucking ONE.

And the mods also don’t appreciate being told to hang our heads in shame or consider our positions as moderators if we don’t do something about these threads that are being started, or the posts contained therein.  The responsibility does not stop at our fucking door on every single issue on this forum. 

Here’s a far out idea that just might work though.

Instead of complaining to the moderators about these threads, DON’T FUCKING START THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

STICK TO THE FOOTBALL.

Well said JMC, Last night when LA started that topic, I pmd JBG and St Mick straight away and told them to lock it, cause I knew it would kick off again.
I know Ive contributed to that topic more than once and some may have not have liked my opinion on it, but if it was locked and deleted then like in other topics, I would'nt have thrown my motty in.
I never harrass the MODS on here to lock topics and complain about members, but since LA has joined this forum there has been nothing but arguments between fellow posters, he is ok in LFC chat, but its his other issues that rub people up the wrong way.
May I suggest that in the future any topics like this one or anything thats going to cause problems be deleted a.s.a.p.
Oh and for the record I am not innocent in all this far from it but I dont claim to be either.
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Postby stmichael » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:10 pm

jonnymac1979 wrote:Isn't this a football forum? 

Threads like this are being started more than football threads EVERY day.  We're playing fucking Real Betis tonight in the Champions League.

I've logged in this morning to about 15 PM's or complaints about the standard of posting in this forum, whether it's racism or politics.  It's every fucking day.  It's not fucking worth it.

Does anyone agree with me or is it just me who's noticed the b*ll*c*ks?

your not the only one. i had 12 complaints myself this morning. unfortunately i wasn't online last night.
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Postby JBG » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:16 pm

andy_g wrote:but this is a section called general chat. if the mods are really unhappy about how much work they have to do moderating this section they should close the whole thing as i don't see anyway that contentious discussions are going to stop. i wonder how many people would stick around on the forum if that happened though. or you could try and insist that people only talk amusing b*ll*c*ks and we'll all pretend all is fine in la la land. personally i like it that people discuss important world issues despite the fact that it gets a bit nasty at times. as the saying goes, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen (once you've finished making my breakfast).

I think John's point is not against political debate per se, but the change of focus from this being a football forum to being a current affairs forum.

I agree with John that a lot of people now seem to put more effort into the current affairs threads than the football threads.

As for CGGY's point, yes, I considered locking the thread, but I decided not to as I thought it would only add fuel to the fire, as the member who started it would only have started a fresh one and would have gotten even more confrontational.
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Postby 84-1106852058 » Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:47 pm

jonnymac1979 wrote:All joking aside Woolly, I’m serious.  I could start a thread with this though.  I still l might if this gets buried under more s*i*e.  I want to make a point to everyone much closer to home now.  When I say closer to home, I mean this message board.

It's every fucking day, everyone talks about racism and politics and bombings and murders and how shit the police are and whatever fucking else is on their political agenda......  this isn’t the place.  You wouldn’t believe the amount of complaints the mods get about these issues.

This used to be a fucking Liverpool Football Club Discussion forum, believe it or not.  Well, it was when I joined it two years ago anyway.

If it was up to me, I would delete threads like this after the first post.  Sorry Red Baron, but it’s got fuck all to do with anything this thread really has it?  Am I supposed to ‘moderate’ this?  It's not up to me though, I would run the risk of upsetting the other mods who are maybe more tolerant than me about this issue.  They might say live and let live, just see how the thread goes and we’ll keep an eye on it.  You'd struggle to even find a post on the Michael Shields case from me.  I go as far as posting my opinions on Hillsborough.  That's about as political as I get on here.

But why should I keep an eye on it?  I visit this site for a bit of Liverpool FC chat.  If I wanted to talk about racism, Id’ go to a fucking racism message board, or a politics message board.

This is ruining this forum though and I feel it is my responsibility to see that does not happen. 

The same members are responsible every day for threads like this, you know me, I love talking b*ll*c*ks on here as much as the next person, but I cannot stand the way this place is used as a political and racial discussion forum.  Really, I have fucking had enough.  I have spent twenty minutes trawling through PM’s this morning over some shit that went down last night.  None of it was about football, it was either about racist comments of the thread about the murdered WPC.  Plus a couple of spamming pricks who I will mention later today probably.

Where’s all the football chat gone?  I’ve been spending less and less time posting on here over the last five or six weeks cause there’s fuck all being spoken about, and then when I do offer an opinion on a FOOTBALL related matter, it gets fucking lost under all the politics and racism.

What the fuck, people?  This used to be good on here but there are some members who have thousands of posts to their name and about 1% of them might be about Liverpool Football Club.

Here’s where someone will dig up some old s*i*e posts of mine now and try to say “Practice what you preach, you wanker etc…..”.  Try it.  There are probably thousands of s*i*e posts by me.  I'm not saying there aren't.  See if I give a fuck though.  What I guarantee is you will not find ONE about politics or racism.  Not fucking ONE.

And the mods also don’t appreciate being told to hang our heads in shame or consider our positions as moderators if we don’t do something about these threads that are being started, or the posts contained therein.  The responsibility does not stop at our fucking door on every single issue on this forum. 

Here’s a far out idea that just might work though.

Instead of complaining to the moderators about these threads, DON’T FUCKING START THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

STICK TO THE FOOTBALL.

Ah well thats me with my @rse kicked,Ill just stick to the important stuff like,Will we beat Blackpool..
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Postby supersub » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:53 pm

I say this is what freedom to debate is all about,whether it be in football discussion or general chat,pray continue and we the mods will do our best to keep a lid on any naughtiness.
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Postby Judge » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:56 pm

stmichael wrote:
jonnymac1979 wrote:Isn't this a football forum? 

Threads like this are being started more than football threads EVERY day.  We're playing fucking Real Betis tonight in the Champions League.

I've logged in this morning to about 15 PM's or complaints about the standard of posting in this forum, whether it's racism or politics.  It's every fucking day.  It's not fucking worth it.

Does anyone agree with me or is it just me who's noticed the b*ll*c*ks?

your not the only one. i had 12 complaints myself this morning, and 9 of them were from myself.

behave stmike  :D
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Postby The Canadian Red Army » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:30 pm

am i the only person around her that doesnt complain? ???
although the LA vs peewee thing got way out of hand, which is none of the mods faults. I remember the bush election how much stuff went on here. Really its just some people letting their feelings felt, and others having a problem with it. This place is about opinions, if you didnt have an opinion about liverpool or football then you wouldnt be here. Some of the stuff is off in left field. I think some people shouldjust chill. I know its alot of work and i applaud you all, but isnt that alittle extreme to cut it all off? we need the real world  :(
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Postby 66-1120597113 » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:47 pm

jonnymac1979 wrote:Isn't this a football forum? 

Threads like this are being started more than football threads EVERY day.  We're playing fucking Real Betis tonight in the Champions League.

I've logged in this morning to about 15 PM's or complaints about the standard of posting in this forum, whether it's racism or politics.  It's every fucking day.  It's not fucking worth it.

Does anyone agree with me or is it just me who's noticed the b*ll*c*ks?

Totally agree!
The last thing anyone needs is another political debate!
Its bad for the forum and causes nothing but grief!
No offence to the starter of this thread but why bother starting this here? And Jonny why not just delete threads like this as we all know they're headed for only 1 place!

Fu.ck politics!
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Postby Garymac » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:00 pm

this is the general section, but i think it should stick to the funny and lighthearted sh!t, and fu*k the intelligent conversations off which i cant relate to!!
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Postby Judge » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:24 pm

Garymac wrote:this is the general section, but i think it should stick to the funny and lighthearted sh!t, and fu*k the intelligent conversations off which i cant relate to!!

you got that right

who said that, where am i  :laugh:   :devil:
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Postby A.B. » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:52 pm

I'm mostly now on Talk LFC, and they too have a general discussion. Everything you could possibly think of is discussed there but in the same way as here. When people over there have arguements, they have fun and banter with one another for the hell of it.

But here, an arguement is depressing to read.
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Postby Judge » Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:52 am

A.B. wrote:I'm mostly now on Talk LFC, When people over there have arguements, they have fun and banter with one another for the hell of it.

so how many squares under your post name do you have there AB ??  :D   :D  wuhahahahahahaha
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Postby A.B. » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:24 pm

Judge wrote:
A.B. wrote:I'm mostly now on Talk LFC, When people over there have arguements, they have fun and banter with one another for the hell of it.

so how many squares under your post name do you have there AB ??  :D   :D  wuhahahahahahaha

We don't have squares there mate, you just get a PM when you're suspended or banned.  :D I've had a 3 day suspension once  :D
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Postby Judge » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:27 pm

thems the breaks i guess :D
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Postby drummerphil » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:56 pm

I'm beginning to feel like a rebel with my square :laugh:
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