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by **bogman_dan** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:55 pm

he has to go now never mind 4th place this nightmare can not can continue houllier please do us all a favour and resign..........p.s please take biscan, diao,diof,heskey,smicer,and phil thompson with you

by **DrLiverpool** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:00 pm

bogman_dan wrote:he has to go now never mind 4th place this nightmare can not can continue houllier please do us all a favour and resign..........p.s please take biscan, diao,diof,heskey,smicer,and phil thompson with you

Ye f**k off but out of the players you named I'd say leave Heskey and Diouf behind.

by **Leonmc0708** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:01 pm

I think you echo the thoughts of most of the people on this forum.

I wonder if your reaction would have been the same if we'd beaten the Gunners today, but still I can see your point.

It is however a real fine line.

Go now, forget about fourth place and get the new man in to be ready for next season. Is the potential new man available right now? Will we attract the same calibre of players if we cant offer Champions League football, and are we ready to lose Owen just yet?

Liverpool never sack managers anyway.

Thompson to go, all wrong though. the lad captained us to the European Cup and is Liverpool thru and thru.

by **DrLiverpool** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:09 pm

Yeah I was actually thinking about that if Houllier is fired does thompson also leave ?

I like the chap + his hamann's dad (hence the nose).

by **kenco** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:17 pm

Let's have a new train of thought,and have a total clear out fom top to bottom

by **daddyo** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:49 pm

How successful has any manager ever been once he has been promoted from assistant at a club? I can never understand the logic of appointing a departed managers asst. One has to make the reasonably safe assumption that they(manager and asst.) think similarly therefore they work in accord. That said,how can a significant change be effected by such a change?

by **live4ever** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 11:11 am

Mclaren, Quieroz, Mourinho they've all been assistants yet they have their own strategies. Phil did quite well when the gaffer was in hospital almost dying. I say give him a chance next season and let GH take a vacation. :cool:

by **Leonmc0708** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 11:17 am

daddyo wrote:How successful has any manager ever been once he has been promoted from assistant at a club? I can never understand the logic of appointing a departed managers asst. One has to make the reasonably safe assumption that they(manager and asst.) think similarly therefore they work in accord. That said,how can a significant change be effected by such a change?

Are you kidding me or what, the whole ethos of Liverpool Football club was to promote from within, assistants always becam the next manager and the continuety made Liverpool Football Club the dominant force in English and European Football for twenty years.

SHANKLY --> PAISLEY --> FAGAN

by **oldredeyes** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 11:39 am

You're right about the ethos of the club Leon but we are talking about a different situation here.
When Shanks came it was unbelievable just how much he affected the fans, like me, and the players he inherited and subsequently brought in to the club.
Shanks instilled a pride, passion and tremendous belief if everyone around him.
His methods were learnt quickly by Bob Paisley who prospered and became a great manager himself.
Bob passed on the same wisdom to Fagan and so on down the line.
But would you really like to see the doubtful wisdom, skills and judgement of GH passed on to the next in line.
GH thought he would be the next Shanks at the club and he simply is not going to come anywhere near the great man.
It is time for him to consider retirement and I'm afraid that will probably mean the end of Tommo - who I like a lot. But Tommo has forgotten how to play the Shankly way and is now steeped in the doctrine of GH..bloody sad.

by **steviec** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:30 pm

daddyo wrote:How successful has any manager ever been once he has been promoted from assistant at a club? I can never understand the logic of appointing a departed managers asst. One has to make the reasonably safe assumption that they(manager and asst.) think similarly therefore they work in accord. That said,how can a significant change be effected by such a change?

what about bob paisley? he was shank's asst

you have to hand it to thierry henry what a goal, but the third was fluke and i thought pires fouled the defender

by **JohnBull** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:41 pm

The ONLY time there has been a successful promotion from within was Shanks to Paisley (Fagan in his own words was purely a stopgap). We were very lucky with the Shanks to Paisley move as they were two completely different types of manager but brilliant in their own ways.
The success under Kenny was largely due to him being a PLAYER/Manager and if he hadn't got off the bench we would never have won the double.
The state of affairs we are in at the moment is SERIOUS from the grass roots upward and the fabled Academy is a shambles with little empires refusing to talk to one another. The board and management should both take responsiblity
for the fiasco and the idea that Thompson could add anything is a joke - he's part of the problem NOT the solution.
Sell your souls to the devil, pray to God do what you can for a Morgan/O'Neil partnership next year.

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