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by **The_Rock** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:35 pm

WTF

7 posts and calling names..... you are history.

GET THE FOCK OUT OF HERE dick-sucker123..... :angry:

by **NiftyNeil** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:39 pm

we need Cisse upfront alongside Crouch. We will see the best of both strikers then.

by **tidusuk123** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:40 pm

The_Rock wrote:WTF 7 posts and calling names..... you are history.

GET THE FOCK OUT OF HERE dick-sucker123.....

Whatever

. Having 7 posts doesn't mean certain words shouldn't be used, or that you are a more intelligent person. My opinion is as good as anyones.

by **The_Rock** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:42 pm

tidusuk123 wrote:
The_Rock wrote:WTF 7 posts and calling names..... you are history.

GET THE FOCK OUT OF HERE dick-sucker123.....

Whatever . Having 7 posts doesn't mean certain words shouldn't be used, or that you are a more intelligent person. My opinion is as good as anyones.

watever ........ i am gonna stalk your every post until u quit from here :devil:

by **tidusuk123** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:44 pm

The_Rock wrote:
tidusuk123 wrote:
The_Rock wrote:WTF 7 posts and calling names..... you are history.

GET THE FOCK OUT OF HERE dick-sucker123.....

Whatever . Having 7 posts doesn't mean certain words shouldn't be used, or that you are a more intelligent person. My opinion is as good as anyones.

watever ........ i am gonna stalk your every post until u quit from here

Good for you. Is that what you do to get some many :censored:

posts? You need to get out a bit more. Get some fresh air into your head and then actually talk about football, because right now you don't have a clue.

by **The_Rock** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:47 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:Saha and Gudjohnsen would be a better striker partnership than anything we could currently put together at the moment, and would probarbly get at least close to 35+ goals in a good team.

On the issue of Cisse, he just isnt that good, and if we can sell him for a reasoble price in January and find a suitable replacement then we should go for it.

But we dont need any extra strikers, if someone leaves then someone comes in, that all.

thats your opinion...and i respect that....

but here's mine.

what do u think about a Saha and Gudjohnsen partnership when Saha plays the main striker and Gudjohnsen plays down the left flank

........ thats the problem we have now.

Cisse is not being utilised well. If cisse and crouch played up-front i am sure they will score loads of goals. (heck even cisse & moro combination will result in goals). But if cisse is played down the right flank or as a lone striker, then i am sorry, u will not see the best of him.

i am all for selling cisse, but we have to get a quality replacement. Cisse looked awesome in france. Moro looked awesome in spain & france. Kuijt currently looks awesome in holland. The question is if he can do a job here....

my opinion only......

by **matrix** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:49 pm

tidusuk123 wrote:
The_Rock wrote:
tidusuk123 wrote:
The_Rock wrote:WTF 7 posts and calling names..... you are history.

GET THE FOCK OUT OF HERE dick-sucker123.....

Whatever . Having 7 posts doesn't mean certain words shouldn't be used, or that you are a more intelligent person. My opinion is as good as anyones.

watever ........ i am gonna stalk your every post until u quit from here

Good for you. Is that what you do to get some many posts? You need to get out a bit more. Get some fresh air into your head and then actually talk about football, because right now you don't have a clue.

are you the hustler chill out dude dont take it to heart when someone dont agree with you :nod

by **The_Rock** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:50 pm

tidusuk123 wrote:Good for you. Is that what you do to get some many posts? You need to get out a bit more. Get some fresh air into your head and then actually talk about football, because right now you don't have a clue.

shut up dicksucker - 321.......

by **Jari's mullet** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:52 pm

I wouldn't want to get rid of cisse, but he needs to stop whinging and show a little bit more in terms of working for the team rather than himself

by **JC_81** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:53 pm

tidusuk123 wrote:Whenever a long ball isn't passed perfectly at Cisse he stops running, looks back at the player who passed and shrugs his shoulders.

If he loses the ball he gets frustrated and doesn't bother running back to fight for the ball.

He helps the team a little and has no determination whatsoever. His strongest game is his pace but he doesn't seem to run off the ball enough. He'd rather pick the ball up and lose it.

I don't know if he is a good player or not. In France he has been fanatastic scoring about 30 goals a season but in the Premiership he has not convinced anyone about his ability. He needs to stop being lazy and improve his work rate - as with Morientes.

Right now I would be glad to see Cisse leave in the January transfer window, along with Morientes. Crouch and Pongolle deserve their chance in the starting line-up and I believe it was the best choice against Man U.

Agree with what you say about Cisse.

Doesn't do enough running off the ball, doesn't get stuck in enough and imo is a lazy git. I hate his constant complaining, whether it's with the ref or his team-mates. You'd think someone like him whose Liverpool career is basically on the line would be giving 100% on the pitch to try and change the Manager's mind, but he doesn't.

I don't think Rafa has treated Cisse very well, trying to sell him, publically admitting this and also playing him out of position either as a lone striker or wide right. Can't be easy but that's still no excuse for not trying hard enough when he does get a chance to play.

As for Cisse's talent/playing ability, he hasn't really had the chance yet to do the business and to be honest I think it might be already too late, Benitez will sell him next summer at the latest, perhaps January if a replacement can be found. He's a confidence player so unsurprisingly he's out of sorts at the moment. To be honest though apart from having good pace, I can't see anything special with Cisse. His first touch is usually his last and his finishing is quite erratic.

I, as much as anyone, wanted Cisse to bang in 30 goals this season after all the bad luck he had last year but there's no chance. I'm going to put my cards on the table and say he's not good enough for us. Benitez doesn't trust him and he knows it, so imo he will never be a top striker FOR US. The guy has bags of potential and he might shine elsewhere, but something has gone badly wrong for him under Benitez.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:00 pm

The_Rock wrote:
Cool Hand Luke wrote:Saha and Gudjohnsen would be a better striker partnership than anything we could currently put together at the moment, and would probarbly get at least close to 35+ goals in a good team.

On the issue of Cisse, he just isnt that good, and if we can sell him for a reasoble price in January and find a suitable replacement then we should go for it.

But we dont need any extra strikers, if someone leaves then someone comes in, that all.

thats your opinion...and i respect that....

but here's mine.

what do u think about a Saha and Gudjohnsen partnership when Saha plays the main striker and Gudjohnsen plays down the left flank ........ thats the problem we have now.

Cisse is not being utilised well. If cisse and crouch played up-front i am sure they will score loads of goals. (heck even cisse & moro combination will result in goals). But if cisse is played down the right flank or as a lone striker, then i am sorry, u will not see the best of him.

i am all for selling cisse, but we have to get a quality replacement. Cisse looked awesome in france. Moro looked awesome in spain & france. Kuijt currently looks awesome in holland. The question is if he can do a job here....

my opinion only......

What do you think of a striker partnership where Saha plays in Crouch's postion and Gudjohnsen plays in Garcia's position?

Basically Cisse doesnt have the qualties needed to lead the line as the lone striker. People seem to be completley dismisive of anything but 4-4-2. How many top teams play a 4-4-2?

Now I'm not saying that I'm in love with the way Rafa sets out his team, but that is the way he does it, so there is no point banging on about it. And it has worked for teams in the past and it is still working now, as long as Rafa can make it work then I dont have a problem.

by **tidusuk123** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:02 pm

john craig wrote:
tidusuk123 wrote:Whenever a long ball isn't passed perfectly at Cisse he stops running, looks back at the player who passed and shrugs his shoulders.

If he loses the ball he gets frustrated and doesn't bother running back to fight for the ball.

He helps the team a little and has no determination whatsoever. His strongest game is his pace but he doesn't seem to run off the ball enough. He'd rather pick the ball up and lose it.

I don't know if he is a good player or not. In France he has been fanatastic scoring about 30 goals a season but in the Premiership he has not convinced anyone about his ability. He needs to stop being lazy and improve his work rate - as with Morientes.

Right now I would be glad to see Cisse leave in the January transfer window, along with Morientes. Crouch and Pongolle deserve their chance in the starting line-up and I believe it was the best choice against Man U.

Agree with what you say about Cisse.

Doesn't do enough running off the ball, doesn't get stuck in enough and imo is a lazy git. I hate his constant complaining, whether it's with the ref or his team-mates. You'd think someone like him whose Liverpool career is basically on the line would be giving 100% on the pitch to try and change the Manager's mind, but he doesn't.

I don't think Rafa has treated Cisse very well, trying to sell him, publically admitting this and also playing him out of position either as a lone striker or wide right. Can't be easy but that's still no excuse for not trying hard enough when he does get a chance to play.

As for Cisse's talent/playing ability, he hasn't really had the chance yet to do the business and to be honest I think it might be already too late, Benitez will sell him next summer at the latest, perhaps January if a replacement can be found. He's a confidence player so unsurprisingly he's out of sorts at the moment. To be honest though apart from having good pace, I can't see anything special with Cisse. His first touch is usually his last and his finishing is quite erratic.

I, as much as anyone, wanted Cisse to bang in 30 goals this season after all the bad luck he had last year but there's no chance. I'm going to put my cards on the table and say he's not good enough for us. Benitez doesn't trust him and he knows it, so imo he will never be a top striker FOR US. The guy has bags of potential and he might shine elsewhere, but something has gone badly wrong for him under Benitez.

agree

by **Paul C** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:06 pm

I don't like getting on players back and want him to be a success in a red shirt but Cisse needs to stop complaining, I wouldn't get rid of the lad but he has to sort himself out, if he doesn't stop having a go at team mates and pulling his weight then their might only be one outcome to all this, problem being that if he did go in January we wouldn't get much for him as he's cup tied in the CL.

by **The_Rock** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:15 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:What do you think of a striker partnership where Saha plays in Crouch's postion and Gudjohnsen plays in Garcia's position?

Basically Cisse doesnt have the qualties needed to lead the line as the lone striker. People seem to be completley dismisive of anything but 4-4-2. How many top teams play a 4-4-2?

Now I'm not saying that I'm in love with the way Rafa sets out his team, but that is the way he does it, so there is no point banging on about it. And it has worked for teams in the past and it is still working now, as long as Rafa can make it work then I dont have a problem.

Isn't that the same as Crouch playing the main striker and Cisse playing as support striker (ie...instead of garcia) ?

Yeah, you might be right. Saha and Gudjonsen strike-force might score more goals than Crouch & Cisse. But if Crouch & Cisse play together as i mentioned above, they could also score goals right ?

i am not a pro 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 supporter. It is just that for some reason, rafa prefers garcia to play off crouch. Cisse could have done a better job in that role.

And i have to add IMO, Cisse is much better than saha & gudjonsen. Why ? He scored a lot in the french league.... He scores a lot for the french national team when he is playing. Cisse & Henry seem to be france 1st choice strikers (even ahead of trezegate (spelling ?)..... So u see, if we play to cisse's strength he won't look so bad.

Saying this.....i guess it is not "smart" to keep defending cisse anymore cos it increasingly looks like, he won't be a liverpool player in january. The same thing which happened to baros is happening to him now

(Guess some of the people here would be happy with that....)

by **A.B.** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:19 pm

After we played Tottenham certain people talked about how ineffective Cisse was. Some even suggested that we should sell him, now today he didn't play and those same people are complaining.

Please decide a side and stick to it.

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