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by **A.B.** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:10 pm

I forgot, isn't this the same Joaquin that said that he would like to join Man Utd and Real Madrid? And didn't he recently say that he wants to stay in Spain?

by **Liverpool 4 EVA** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:17 pm

ALONSO_14 wrote:have you ever met joaquin liverpool 4 eva? unless by chance your his best mate then how do you know he wouldnt say stuff like that, people are all different. im not saying its definately true but im saying that it most likely is. it wouldnt be so widely reported by every source if it wasnt.

Im' telling you he WOULD NOT SAY THIS, it's 100%.

It would be like Michael Owen saying, "I am Michael Owen and I am the best striker in world, at Newcastle I will show everyone that I am better than Ronaldinho and Shevchenko.

Now tell me, even though you are not Michael Owen's best mate, you KNOW for sure he wouldn't say this right?

I am telling you, I know this player very well, he always comes accross as being quite HUMBLE and sincere, I watch Spanish TV all of the time, I know the league 100% and I know most of the players too, and there is NO CHANCE Joaquín would say some of that trash.

The most he would say is that he wants to go to Madrid or Liverpool, but in Spain, players openly say these things all of the time, but they are still supported by the fans even though they openly express a desire to go to a bigger club.

Honestly, it's silly that people automatically believe everything they read

by **stoney** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:27 pm

Liverpool 4 EVA wrote:
ALONSO_14 wrote:have you ever met joaquin liverpool 4 eva? unless by chance your his best mate then how do you know he wouldnt say stuff like that, people are all different. im not saying its definately true but im saying that it most likely is. it wouldnt be so widely reported by every source if it wasnt.

Im' telling you he WOULD NOT SAY THIS, it's 100%.

It would be like Michael Owen saying, "I am Michael Owen and I am the best striker in world, at Newcastle I will show everyone that I am better than Ronaldinho and Shevchenko.

Now tell me, even though you are not Michael Owen's best mate, you KNOW for sure he wouldn't say this right?

I am telling you, I know this player very well, he always comes accross as being quite HUMBLE and sincere, I watch Spanish TV all of the time, I know the league 100% and I know most of the players too, and there is NO CHANCE Joaquín would say some of that trash.

The most he would say is that he wants to go to Madrid or Liverpool, but in Spain, players openly say these things all of the time, but they are still supported by the fans even though they openly express a desire to go to a bigger club.

Honestly, it's silly that people automatically believe everything they read

Theres only one footballer that I can think of who would say something like what you've just said for owen and thats Samuel eto'o

by **Alonso14** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:49 pm

Nice for him to say after the window closes.

I will eat my hat if i ever see Joaquin in Liverpool shirt.

by **Garymac** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:05 pm

some ballbags on here now, 2 weeks ago its kick off time because we dont sign a right winger, then one of the best in the world confesses he would quite like a move to us and people blow it out the water straight away.......What is so unrelistic about a quality player in an ok side coming to liverpool??

by **JC_81** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:30 pm

I don't find it hard to believe at all that Joaquin would want to sign for us, he's a class player and I'd love it to happen.

Fact is, we'd probably be out-bid by either Real or Barce. The scum and chelski would probably get involved in a bidding war also if he became available (even though they're coming down with wingers already).

In a bidding war Joaquin would cost closer to 30mil than 20, we can't afford that imo

by **Liverpool 4 EVA** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:37 pm

I would like to make it CLEAR, that it's not hard to believe that Joaquín would sign for us, not at all, but because there are many parts of the quote that are clearly made up, I would doubt if any of it is true at all.

Real Madrid will NO WAY buy Joaquín as their manager Luxemborgo NEVER EVER plays with wingers, as he says, he loves the "magical diamond" of attackers formation.

I'm not sure that we would pay so much for this great player, he would cost a lot of money, and Lopera is a VERY shrude businessman.

Cheers.

by **Paul C** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:30 am

john craig wrote:I don't find it hard to believe at all that Joaquin would want to sign for us, he's a class player and I'd love it to happen.

Fact is, we'd probably be out-bid by either Real or Barce. The scum and chelski would probably get involved in a bidding war also if he became available (even though they're coming down with wingers already).

In a bidding war Joaquin would cost closer to 30mil than 20, we can't afford that imo

I agree there John

by **Chelsea forever.** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:20 am

Bavlondon -

To be honest Chelsea Forever most of our Spanish contingent with the exception of Morientes have fit in perfectly. Alsonso was named best passer in the premiership last season, and well you know what Garcia did.

I have always said that Alonso is a great player. Rafa wanted to build the team around Alonso and not Gerrard. Anyway, Alonso is by far one of the best passers in the EPL and he is a complete player in his position.

Garcia had a good season last year, this season he has had a slow start and is still to impress. I dont doubt his ability, he is a good short quick lil player who can work wonders if played in his position. I would really like to see him at the tip of a daimond but unfortunately thats not what Rafa plays so the closest he will come is just behind the lone striker.

I think Joaquin will be a welcomed aqquisition if he does come. Yes the EPL may be more physical but when your a winger you dont have to generally be a tough nut to get past people. Look at C Ronaldo for instance, hes not a physical player but he can shoot up and down the wings all day long. We have more physical players now in the cenre where it is required like Sissoko and that has i think help to improve our away form so far.

You cant really compare Joaquin to Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a winger, but he is also a wizzard. He is one player who has so many tricks in his bag that its difficult to judge what he is going to do next. He is one of the few players in the world who can take on the entire team and probably even nutmeg the keeper. IMO he is one his way to become the best player in the world. Joaquin doesnt have those tricks in him. He is a good winger just like Duff is a good winger. But they dont have the magic that Ronaldo or Ronaldhino have. He will be a good addition, but dont expect him to produce magic each game.

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I see some people here are ok with the club spending 21M on him. Looks like we have some big spenders along with ourselves

Chelsea Forever

by **Liverpool 4 EVA** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:31 am

Chelsea forever. wrote:You cant really compare Joaquin to Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a winger, but he is also a wizzard. He is one player who has so many tricks in his bag that its difficult to judge what he is going to do next. He is one of the few players in the world who can take on the entire team and probably even nutmeg the keeper. IMO he is one his way to become the best player in the world. Joaquin doesnt have those tricks in him. He is a good winger just like Duff is a good winger. But they dont have the magic that Ronaldo or Ronaldhino have. He will be a good addition, but dont expect him to produce magic each game.

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I see some people here are ok with the club spending 21M on him. Looks like we have some big spenders along with ourselves

Chelsea Forever

I disagree, Joaquín has TONS of tricks, and for those of you that don't watch Spanish football, remember that stunning piece of skill he produced against Ashley Cole against England a year ago? well he does lots of things like that all of the time....

I agree, he doesn't have as MUCH trickery as Cristiano, but he's just as fast, stronger, with an equally good if not better shot, and equally good if not better crossing ability.

I think they are about even in terms of overall quality.

by **Chelsea forever.** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:35 am

I disagree, Joaquín has TONS of tricks, and for those of you that don't watch Spanish football, remember that stunning piece of skill he produced against Ashley Cole against England a year ago? well he does lots of things like that all of the time....

That was not a stunning piece of skill, he just put the ball between Cole's legs at the touchline behind the goal and ran into the box - a good move but something even Kewell can do.

I agree, he doesn't have as MUCH trickery as Cristiano, but he's just as fast, stronger, with an equally good if not better shot, and equally good if not better crossing ability.

I think they are about even in terms of overall quality.

Joaquin cannot do what Ronaldo can. He is a good player and he has tricks, he is fast and has a shot, he will be a good buy and is a potental world star. But I still have question marks on him and I still say he isnt as good as Ronaldo.

by **Judge** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:17 am

A.B. wrote:I forgot, isn't this the same Joaquin that said that he would like to join Man Utd and Real Madrid? And didn't he recently say that he wants to stay in Spain?

NO AB, he was quoted saying he'd love a move to LFC.

In fact, ive seen those qoutes all over the place

by **Liverpool 4 EVA** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:25 am

Chelsea forever. wrote:
I disagree, Joaquín has TONS of tricks, and for those of you that don't watch Spanish football, remember that stunning piece of skill he produced against Ashley Cole against England a year ago? well he does lots of things like that all of the time....

That was not a stunning piece of skill, he just put the ball between Cole's legs at the touchline behind the goal and ran into the box - a good move but something even Kewell can do.

I agree, he doesn't have as MUCH trickery as Cristiano, but he's just as fast, stronger, with an equally good if not better shot, and equally good if not better crossing ability.

I think they are about even in terms of overall quality.

Joaquin cannot do what Ronaldo can. He is a good player and he has tricks, he is fast and has a shot, he will be a good buy and is a potental world star. But I still have question marks on him and I still say he isnt as good as Ronaldo.

Oh come on, now you're being silly, I can also say that Kewell can also do ALL of the namby pamby stuff that Ronaldo does :;):

Lets not get silly now :rasp

that was a great piece of skill, or don't you remember it properly?

This is a matter of opinion anyway, and I am right.

I think they're about even.

by **Chelsea forever.** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:35 am

Oh come on, now you're being silly, I can also say that Kewell can also do ALL of the namby pamby stuff that Ronaldo does

Lets not get silly now that was a great piece of skill, or don't you remember it properly?

This is a matter of opinion anyway, and I am right.

I think they're about even.
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I cannot fathom how you can call them equal.

Yes it is a matter of opinion, but that doesnt mean you are right. It only means you choose to believe your opinion as it gives you happiness. Your opinion might not be right, it might not be right according to me and it might not be right in the real world. So in my opinion your opinion is wrong but I accept it as you are entitled to your opinion. I stll stand by my opinion and confirm that Joquin cannot produce the magic that Ronaldo so effortlessly does.

Sorry, but thats just my opinion.

by **Liverpool 4 EVA** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:50 am

Chelsea forever. wrote:
Oh come on, now you're being silly, I can also say that Kewell can also do ALL of the namby pamby stuff that Ronaldo does

Lets not get silly now that was a great piece of skill, or don't you remember it properly?

This is a matter of opinion anyway, and I am right.

I think they're about even.
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I cannot fathom how you can call them equal.

Yes it is a matter of opinion, but that doesnt mean you are right. It only means you choose to believe your opinion as it gives you happiness. Your opinion might not be right, it might not be right according to me and it might not be right in the real world. So in my opinion your opinion is wrong but I accept it as you are entitled to your opinion. I stll stand by my opinion and confirm that Joquin cannot produce the magic that Ronaldo so effortlessly does.

Sorry, but thats just my opinion.

I think your opinion is tainted slightly by the fact that you hardly ever watch Joaquín, and of course you get to watch Ronaldo week in week out on match of the day etc, etc.

I get to watch BOTH players week in week out, and I think I'm better placed to judge who is better.

The way you so easily say that Ronaldo is definitely better than Joaquín, confirms to me you hardly ever watch the guy.

Cheers

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