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by **Big Niall** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:27 pm

why do people call it an all time xi and then pick a team from the last 20 years? isn't that "last 20 years xi".

Colour TV came in mid 1960s but does that mean that there were no great players before that - Girancha, Just Fontaine etc.

Also there is a strong bias towards players who have played in england. I think Roy Keane is excellent but there is no way he'd be the best ever in his position.

Even Kenny Dalglish isn't good enough to get in ahead of Maradonna, pele etc and Van Basten was better than Rush or Lineker.

Personally I don't think any player from England league (ever) would get in. Schmeichel would have a shout against that Russian goalie in 1950s/60s. Banks was good but one great save (any better than Robinsons against Hartson?) doesnt make the greatest ever.

Think "ever" if you are doing a best ever. otherwise start a thread "that I've seen"

by **66-1112520797** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:42 pm

bigmick wrote:
mighty mo wrote:what do you mean the road is long and rocky for him to be better than keane,he,s already there or probably has passed a keane in his prime by now.

Well it's all about opinions mate and yours is worth at least as much as mine. My suspicion is we are never going to agree because I think you are miles wide of the mark. Stll like I say there's nothing wrong with disagreement.
I would say this though, there was a time during the late 90's when Keanne was that good that I got the feeling that if we'd have had him rather than Man U then we would've won the title. Now we HAVE got Gerrard so I hope you are calling it right and he wins us the title.

But you cant be sure Keane would of helped us win the title in the late 90s.

by **66-1112520797** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:44 pm

Personally i wouldnt have either in my team....but there you go.

by **thegreedo** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:51 pm

Big Niall wrote:personally I don't think any player from England league (ever) would get in.

Would your anti-English sentement allow a little unknown fella called Bobby Moore a shout at entry?? 'Cos he wasn't world class was he?? Just ask Pele'?

by **Big Niall** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:28 pm

thegreedo wrote:
Big Niall wrote:personally I don't think any player from England league (ever) would get in.

Would your anti-English sentement allow a little unknown fella called Bobby Moore a shout at entry?? 'Cos he wasn't world class was he?? Just ask Pele'?

No anti - english sentiment. Bobby Moore was amazing, a fantastic player. In the last 30 years alone I think Beckenbaur and Baresi were better (both won lots more too).

Is that being disrespectul to a great player like Bobby Moore?

I'm not too keen on being classed as bigoted either :angry:

by **thegreedo** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:34 pm

Big Niall wrote:I'm not too keen on being classed as bigoted either

I seek not to offend.

On this forum you can only form your own opinions of people based on the comments contained in their posts.

That is how you came across.

If I am wrong you have my appologies.

by **JC_81** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:47 pm

Big Niall wrote:why do people call it an all time xi and then pick a team from the last 20 years? isn't that "last 20 years xi".

Blame Jamie Carragher, he started it

by **Mikz** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:54 pm

Its a matter of opinion really..but id have schmeichel and George Best in mine . And big John Charles as sub :nod

by **Jari's mullet** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:00 am

I am pretty sure carragher named Keane because he fancied some raw aggression in the middle

by **112-1077774096** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:05 am

neil wrote:
peewee wrote:
neil wrote:banks

neale beckenbaur baresi carlos

zico maradonna alberto eder

basten pele

let no mo fooker diss dis team

who is neale?

is it phil Neal from liverpool or is there a player called Neale i dont know about

Correct, most decorated english player of all time, scored in at least 2 european cup finals, played in loads. Why the surprise?

no surprise, it was the spelling that threw me, thats why i asked the question

by **neil** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:10 pm

Big Niall wrote:why do people call it an all time xi and then pick a team from the last 20 years? isn't that "last 20 years xi".

Colour TV came in mid 1960s but does that mean that there were no great players before that - Girancha, Just Fontaine etc.

Also there is a strong bias towards players who have played in england. I think Roy Keane is excellent but there is no way he'd be the best ever in his position.

Even Kenny Dalglish isn't good enough to get in ahead of Maradonna, pele etc and Van Basten was better than Rush or Lineker.

Personally I don't think any player from England league (ever) would get in. Schmeichel would have a shout against that Russian goalie in 1950s/60s. Banks was good but one great save (any better than Robinsons against Hartson?) doesnt make the greatest ever.

Think "ever" if you are doing a best ever. otherwise start a thread "that I've seen"

If it is MY post it is safe to assume they are players I have seen,unless you would like me to put "according to my Grandad" in brackets after each player or better still have HIM post instead of me.

by **anfieldadorer** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:47 pm

neil wrote:unless you would like me to put "according to my Grandad" in brackets after each player or better still have HIM post instead of me.

gotcha point

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