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Postby Fowler_E7 » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:10 pm

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cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:I dont know if you have watched 9/11 Farenheit Judge but its a real eye openers and its a must see, the American army goes round ghettos and hang out outside shopping malls in uniform to recruit, like someone asking you to recieve a Littlewoods catalogue young poor black lads, and send them into the front line in Iraq after 2 weeks training. A few days later they are killed, Michael Moore the maker of this film went outside congress and asked a few of them if they would be prepared to let there sons go to Iraq guess what, not one of them said YES.

most of these guys join the army for a pay check or career, i.e. they are willing to kill strangers (many innocent) to get a pay check. mercenaries. In WW2 the guys joining up did so to defend their country from attack not for a pay check.

I hope America gets its ar*e handed to it Vietnam style, shouldn't be there.

Britain may not be a superpower anymore but it still has influence around the world and I never understand why it acts like America's bitch all the time.

i think you will find Niall that many of these so called "mercenaries" join the army because there very few other career options for them. If you are a badly educated, poor male from a ghetto in america, there are very few career opportunitys the army is a job option that pays regular money without any need for education or work experience.
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Postby neil » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:06 pm

Do you think they'll go for that 'passmaistro' dude with the funny hippo avatar? what if he's only 12 though?
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Postby Afroman » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:31 pm

How random is that  :p
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:50 am

The Return of the Judge wrote:it is only due to media coverage that we think it is worse now. it isnt, it was worse then

I'm sorry Judge, but that is total B.*ll*c*ks, nearly 200.000 innocent people (vast majority women, children and the elderly!) have lost their lives due to Americas (and Britain by proxy) 'Shock and Awe' tactics and everything that has proceeded since then!

Saddam was NO THREAT to world affairs, people dont seem to understand he was no fundamentalist and would never tolerate terrorists setting up camp in his country. Saddam was a lover of the West and all it stood for TBH, if you research this, you will find it!
Yes of course he murdered innocent people (Kurds in Halabja I beleive, off the top of me head, correct me if I am wrong please!) but this was internal plolitics, much like we have seen from Mugabe (and many others in history!). Add to the fact where did he get the chemicals to attack the Kurds in the furst place!!!  ???  :no

For anyone that hasnt seen Fahrenheit 9/11 as CGGY recommends then you MUST SEE IT!!!  I repeat MUST!!!

But TBH if you want a 1hr documentary (fahrenheight 9/11 is a lot longer!) then you ABSOLUTELY MUST WATCH 'Loose Change' it can be hard to get a hold of, but i will pste the link below for anyone interested in d/loading it via Bitlord.

http://www.torrentspy.com/search.....change+

Also another hard to get hold of documentary, that is a essential viewing is '9/11 In Plane Sight' by Alex Jones!!
All I can say is, if you actually care about what is actually going on around us then PLEASE watch these documentaries.
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Postby looprevil » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:07 am

The thought of a major war with a country that has access to nuclear weapons is a very scary thought.  That or bio weapons.  Could you imagine how the world would change if it came to a country nuking another?  All the poor civilians, the nuclear waste, the resentment towards the country using the nuke which could lead to terrorism or a bigger war.  Not good stuff.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:50 am

commumism in principal is not a bad thing, it was the way it was practised that let it down.
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Postby Judge » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:01 am

LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:
The Return of the Judge wrote:it is only due to media coverage that we think it is worse now. it isnt, it was worse then

I'm sorry Judge, but that is total B.*ll*c*ks, nearly 200.000 innocent people (vast majority women, children and the elderly!) have lost their lives due to Americas (and Britain by proxy) 'Shock and Awe' tactics and everything that has proceeded since then!

Saddam was NO THREAT to world affairs, people dont seem to understand he was no fundamentalist and would never tolerate terrorists setting up camp in his country. Saddam was a lover of the West and all it stood for TBH, if you research this, you will find it!
Yes of course he murdered innocent people (Kurds in Halabja I beleive, off the top of me head, correct me if I am wrong please!) but this was internal plolitics, much like we have seen from Mugabe (and many others in history!). Add to the fact where did he get the chemicals to attack the Kurds in the furst place!!!  ???  :no

For anyone that hasnt seen Fahrenheit 9/11 as CGGY recommends then you MUST SEE IT!!!  I repeat MUST!!!

But TBH if you want a 1hr documentary (fahrenheight 9/11 is a lot longer!) then you ABSOLUTELY MUST WATCH 'Loose Change' it can be hard to get a hold of, but i will pste the link below for anyone interested in d/loading it via Bitlord.

http://www.torrentspy.com/search.....change+

Also another hard to get hold of documentary, that is a essential viewing is '9/11 In Plane Sight' by Alex Jones!!
All I can say is, if you actually care about what is actually going on around us then PLEASE watch these documentaries.

disagree mate. saddam harboured some of the worlds worst terrorists at some point. saddam also murdered his son in law, whom he lured back from jordan with false promises. he also invaded his neibouring countries (ie muslim brotyhers), such as Kuwait and Iran. he may not have been able to strike at the heart of the west directly, but he couldve got his army of terrorists to do it in small but effective doses.

i have served my country, and as such feel that by removal of this despot from Iraq, that the country may have a chance to become democratic and peaceful etc etc. although, it is very bad place to be at the moment. but Iraq is being used as a violent bandwagon for those who oppose our way of life in the west and those muslims there who just want to be able to express their religious freedom. These insurgents want to control the ordinary muslims to their own way of thinking. This sort of behaviour was evident even before the USA and Britain got involved. sorry mate, your wrong.

Also, to pin you opinions on one film is laughable. Perhaps we should make a film on Saddams rule and spice it up, then perhaps you may think again. theirs alot more to this problem and others than YOU think. be carful before you criticise.

I respect your opinion though, its a shame you dont respect mine!!
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:44 am

Hold on where did I say I dont respect your opinion? ???
Also where do i base what i say on one film ???, firstly that was just a side point, and in that post alone in talk of three films.
There are MANY films and documentaries to watch!! And if you really think I would base my opinion on such things on one film you are mistaken, I have done plenty of reading and research on this stuff as it interests me.

Look, I am not saying Saddam was a good guy, of course he was far from it, but some of the examples you give are similar to actions by Mugabe (for example) and he is still in power. There are more important things at stake here, such as OIL and strategic positioning in the world, ie; Close to Iran who we all know are next agenda, also close to Saudi (Oil and Army Bases) also provides a route for Heroin being transported from Afghanistan (last two years have seen highest Poppy production numbers, wheras they were fallling under the Taliban, NO coincidence IMO that that coincides with Afghanistan attacks from US!! They did it in Vietnam and no doubt are doing it again, Dont forget this war costs $2.2Billion A DAY...needs to be paid for somehow!)

The 'Insurgents' are not motivated by a want to make the people follow their drachonian style rules and islamic laws, they are just defending their homeland from a bunch of unwanted invaders.

I dont understand why you 'serving your country' makes you come to the conclusion it was the right idea to remove Saddam (not disputing your opinion, but how that makes a differnce - you having 'served'?).

We obviously disagree, but dont feel that because I disagree with you that I do not respect your opinion.........Its all about opinions.

You talk of Saddam killing his brother etc;, but by ordering the attacks on Iraq, George Bush has plenty more blood on his hands than Saddam Hussein!!!
Are you forgetting about WMD's?? Thats the WHOLE reason (read - charade!) they are in Iraq in the first place, FFS, when was the last time you heard them talk anout those on the News, more to the point, how often do you see reports on Iraq nowadays too?

This was all done WITHOUT the permission of the International community etc; and you talk of Democracy like it is prevalent - Did not over 1million people march (in this country alone! biggest march in this country too I beleive) against this war, what did it do NOTHING!!  Maybe you might argue, that being allowed to march in the first place is democracy at work (fair enough I suppose!) but if thats as far as it goes its b.*ll*c*ks really isnt it??!!
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Postby Judge » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:53 am

lets agree to disagree ok. still friends

have a nice day


your still wrong tho' :D
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Postby Big Niall » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:31 am

I can't wait for  Blair to explain democracy to Iraqis, "you see the people go to the polls like we did in Britain a few months ago and about a third of the voters said they wanted my party in government and two thirds said they want another party in government, so my party now has a majority of 67. Before this election I got legislation to go to war passed in parliment even though the majority of my party voted against it. Its called democracy.

Ask my boss George, he won our capital (USA) election in 2000 when he locked blacks out of polls and had  many struck off (many illegally) the voter register. he then had his cousin in control of fox news say he won as people believe what they hear on the tv. the attorney general in that state (who was on his campaign team) said he won so nobody can argue with that. We also all agree that his rival actually received 100,000 more votes than him. his dad, who was also president (they have a monarchy too) was the guy that ensured my boss could dodge war when his country needed him was very happy.

You see you don't have to torture political opponents, democracy has enough methods of allowing the corrupt get "democratically" elected without the support of the people
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Postby IstanBuL-FenerBaHce » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:57 am

I cant still understand why MILLIONS of people support a man who seems like a monkey than a human with his behaviours, speechs and tiny brain...

People STILL try to find reasonable matters for this f!cking war!..(oh, that must be called not a war, 'an attack' )

USA, called 'land of freedom' is the first who f!cks freedom..
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Postby IstanBuL-FenerBaHce » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:00 am

About American troops, be sure, they go Iraq for the money, not to
"be served their country with pride"


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Postby Judge » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:01 pm

USA's axis of evil - iran, syria, n korea

are there anymore?
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