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by **banana** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:33 pm

The Ace1983 wrote:
stmichael wrote:
banana wrote:Owen would only be a squad player, 4th choice striker I guess behind Crouch, Cisse and Moro. And for 4th choice I much rather have a young gun like Pongolle or even Mellor. One for the future.

absolutely f#cking clueless.

pongolle or mellor over owen. give me a break.

i'd love to hear what stu the red would say about those comments.

I think Banana has been smoking something funny, because that has to be one of the most hilarious thing I've heard... ever!

Michael Owen, the man destined to be England's top goalscorer, a proven international who can guarentee twenty a season in the league alone, who also pushed Morientes out of Madrid and spent much of last season making Ronaldo and Raul look pedestrian at best, would find it hard to get on your subs bench?

One for the future? If we did things your way, we wouldn't have a funking future.

First choice: Cisse

He has skills in all departements. Good in the air, fast, strong,,, a complete striker im my eyes.

Second choice: Peter Crouch

Invaluable with his skills to win headers keep up the ball and useful link up play. Benitez number one transfer target this summer ( and obviously ahead of owen in the pecking order as Benitez chose him over Owen in the transfer market)

Third choice: Morientes

Experienced striker with good skills. Can hold the ball up well, has a clever shot and good in the air. Highly rated by Benitez and his teammates.

A new signing would definately struggle to get ahead of those 3 guys. Owen has no chance of getting past them. That's for sure. Why? It's all about style. Benitez would like to have strong target men. Players that threathen the defence on crosses and can keep the ball up well and get others into play. We will dominate 80% of the games and our opponents will defend deep. Against such opposition Owen is not the solution. The best way to break down defensive teams is to attack on the wings and get good crosses into the box. That is why Benitez has bought Crouch and Morientes.

Yes we need more than 3 strikers in the club. But fourth choice striker should be a young gun from the academy. A player for the future. If we have Baros or Owen as fourth choice no academy players will ever get the chance to play, and this will be detrimental to their development.

by **tubby** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:39 pm

Somebody please shut this thread down. How many time are we gonna discuss Michael Owen. For gos sakes say something interesting ?

by **Judge** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:42 pm

bavlondon wrote:Somebody please shut this thread down. How many time are we gonna discuss Michael Owen. For gos sakes say something interesting ?

interesting?

ok.........................i hear that this thread will not be shut down, coz we love MO

by **stmichael** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:43 pm

banana wrote:First choice: Cisse

He has skills in all departements. Good in the air, fast, strong,,, a complete striker im my eyes.

cisse good in the air? can you please explain when exactly you've seen evidence of this because i must have missed something.

by **Ace Ventura** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:01 pm

stmichael wrote:
banana wrote:First choice: Cisse

He has skills in all departements. Good in the air, fast, strong,,, a complete striker im my eyes.

cisse good in the air? can you please explain when exactly you've seen evidence of this because i must have missed something.

Think i have missed it to, Cisse is a very exciting prospect who has a verocious shot and electric pace, but i have not seen anything to suggest he is decent in the air.
I would actually back Michael to score more headed goals in a season.

by **Judge** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:53 pm

stmichael wrote:
banana wrote:First choice: Cisse

He has skills in all departements. has Good hair, fast, strong,,, a complete striker im my eyes.

cisse good in the air? can you please explain when exactly you've seen evidence of this because i must have missed something.

i think banana likes cisse's hair

how could you miss that stmike? :laugh:

by **The Ace1983** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:35 pm

banana wrote:
The Ace1983 wrote:
stmichael wrote:
banana wrote:Owen would only be a squad player, 4th choice striker I guess behind Crouch, Cisse and Moro. And for 4th choice I much rather have a young gun like Pongolle or even Mellor. One for the future.

absolutely f#cking clueless.

pongolle or mellor over owen. give me a break.

i'd love to hear what stu the red would say about those comments.

I think Banana has been smoking something funny, because that has to be one of the most hilarious thing I've heard... ever!

Michael Owen, the man destined to be England's top goalscorer, a proven international who can guarentee twenty a season in the league alone, who also pushed Morientes out of Madrid and spent much of last season making Ronaldo and Raul look pedestrian at best, would find it hard to get on your subs bench?

One for the future? If we did things your way, we wouldn't have a funking future.

First choice: Cisse

He has skills in all departements. Good in the air, fast, strong,,, a complete striker im my eyes.

Second choice: Peter Crouch

Invaluable with his skills to win headers keep up the ball and useful link up play. Benitez number one transfer target this summer ( and obviously ahead of owen in the pecking order as Benitez chose him over Owen in the transfer market)

Third choice: Morientes

Experienced striker with good skills. Can hold the ball up well, has a clever shot and good in the air. Highly rated by Benitez and his teammates.

A new signing would definately struggle to get ahead of those 3 guys. Owen has no chance of getting past them. That's for sure. Why? It's all about style. Benitez would like to have strong target men. Players that threathen the defence on crosses and can keep the ball up well and get others into play. We will dominate 80% of the games and our opponents will defend deep. Against such opposition Owen is not the solution. The best way to break down defensive teams is to attack on the wings and get good crosses into the box. That is why Benitez has bought Crouch and Morientes.

Yes we need more than 3 strikers in the club. But fourth choice striker should be a young gun from the academy. A player for the future. If we have Baros or Owen as fourth choice no academy players will ever get the chance to play, and this will be detrimental to their development.

What the funk are you on about?!? Are actually being serious or has someone slipped something in your drink? You honestly think that Rafa Benitez would turn round to Owen IF he signs and say "Sorry Michael, didn't want to get your hopes up, but I decided that seeing as you were only valued by a club that doesn't need you at around £15m and seeing as you would probably only score about 30 goals in all competitions, we should let a kid from the acadamy warm the bench because he needs the experience. I'm sure you'll understand, right? I mean, you play every match for England if your fit and you netted over a hundred premiership goals for the club, but at the end of the day, I'd rather use that future "world player of the year [my @rse]" Peter Crouch, Nando (y'know, that guy that was surplus to requirments at Real Madrid when you turned up), Cisse and a couple of eighteen year olds who could gain real experience playing week in, week out for a championship team rather than getting cold on the sidelines for us. So it's the reserves for you, you soon to be record breaking, £60 grand a week, international, prolific, will be legend! Toodle-oo!"

Horsesh!t.

by **drummerphil** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:38 pm

by **banana** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:02 pm

The Ace1983 wrote:
banana wrote:
The Ace1983 wrote:
stmichael wrote:
banana wrote:Owen would only be a squad player, 4th choice striker I guess behind Crouch, Cisse and Moro. And for 4th choice I much rather have a young gun like Pongolle or even Mellor. One for the future.

absolutely f#cking clueless.

pongolle or mellor over owen. give me a break.

i'd love to hear what stu the red would say about those comments.

I think Banana has been smoking something funny, because that has to be one of the most hilarious thing I've heard... ever!

Michael Owen, the man destined to be England's top goalscorer, a proven international who can guarentee twenty a season in the league alone, who also pushed Morientes out of Madrid and spent much of last season making Ronaldo and Raul look pedestrian at best, would find it hard to get on your subs bench?

One for the future? If we did things your way, we wouldn't have a funking future.

First choice: Cisse

He has skills in all departements. Good in the air, fast, strong,,, a complete striker im my eyes.

Second choice: Peter Crouch

Invaluable with his skills to win headers keep up the ball and useful link up play. Benitez number one transfer target this summer ( and obviously ahead of owen in the pecking order as Benitez chose him over Owen in the transfer market)

Third choice: Morientes

Experienced striker with good skills. Can hold the ball up well, has a clever shot and good in the air. Highly rated by Benitez and his teammates.

A new signing would definately struggle to get ahead of those 3 guys. Owen has no chance of getting past them. That's for sure. Why? It's all about style. Benitez would like to have strong target men. Players that threathen the defence on crosses and can keep the ball up well and get others into play. We will dominate 80% of the games and our opponents will defend deep. Against such opposition Owen is not the solution. The best way to break down defensive teams is to attack on the wings and get good crosses into the box. That is why Benitez has bought Crouch and Morientes.

Yes we need more than 3 strikers in the club. But fourth choice striker should be a young gun from the academy. A player for the future. If we have Baros or Owen as fourth choice no academy players will ever get the chance to play, and this will be detrimental to their development.

What the funk are you on about?!? Are actually being serious or has someone slipped something in your drink? You honestly think that Rafa Benitez would turn round to Owen IF he signs and say "Sorry Michael, didn't want to get your hopes up, but I decided that seeing as you were only valued by a club that doesn't need you at around £15m and seeing as you would probably only score about 30 goals in all competitions, we should let a kid from the acadamy warm the bench because he needs the experience. I'm sure you'll understand, right? I mean, you play every match for England if your fit and you netted over a hundred premiership goals for the club, but at the end of the day, I'd rather use that future "world player of the year [my @rse]" Peter Crouch, Nando (y'know, that guy that was surplus to requirments at Real Madrid when you turned up), Cisse and a couple of eighteen year olds who could gain real experience playing week in, week out for a championship team rather than getting cold on the sidelines for us. So it's the reserves for you, you soon to be record breaking, £60 grand a week, international, prolific, will be legend! Toodle-oo!"

Horsesh!t.

You obviously have very limited knowledge of the game. I feel sorry for you.

by **The Ace1983** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:13 pm

banana wrote:
The Ace1983 wrote:
banana wrote:
The Ace1983 wrote:
stmichael wrote:
banana wrote:Owen would only be a squad player, 4th choice striker I guess behind Crouch, Cisse and Moro. And for 4th choice I much rather have a young gun like Pongolle or even Mellor. One for the future.

absolutely f#cking clueless.

pongolle or mellor over owen. give me a break.

i'd love to hear what stu the red would say about those comments.

I think Banana has been smoking something funny, because that has to be one of the most hilarious thing I've heard... ever!

Michael Owen, the man destined to be England's top goalscorer, a proven international who can guarentee twenty a season in the league alone, who also pushed Morientes out of Madrid and spent much of last season making Ronaldo and Raul look pedestrian at best, would find it hard to get on your subs bench?

One for the future? If we did things your way, we wouldn't have a funking future.

First choice: Cisse

He has skills in all departements. Good in the air, fast, strong,,, a complete striker im my eyes.

Second choice: Peter Crouch

Invaluable with his skills to win headers keep up the ball and useful link up play. Benitez number one transfer target this summer ( and obviously ahead of owen in the pecking order as Benitez chose him over Owen in the transfer market)

Third choice: Morientes

Experienced striker with good skills. Can hold the ball up well, has a clever shot and good in the air. Highly rated by Benitez and his teammates.

A new signing would definately struggle to get ahead of those 3 guys. Owen has no chance of getting past them. That's for sure. Why? It's all about style. Benitez would like to have strong target men. Players that threathen the defence on crosses and can keep the ball up well and get others into play. We will dominate 80% of the games and our opponents will defend deep. Against such opposition Owen is not the solution. The best way to break down defensive teams is to attack on the wings and get good crosses into the box. That is why Benitez has bought Crouch and Morientes.

Yes we need more than 3 strikers in the club. But fourth choice striker should be a young gun from the academy. A player for the future. If we have Baros or Owen as fourth choice no academy players will ever get the chance to play, and this will be detrimental to their development.

What the funk are you on about?!? Are actually being serious or has someone slipped something in your drink? You honestly think that Rafa Benitez would turn round to Owen IF he signs and say "Sorry Michael, didn't want to get your hopes up, but I decided that seeing as you were only valued by a club that doesn't need you at around £15m and seeing as you would probably only score about 30 goals in all competitions, we should let a kid from the acadamy warm the bench because he needs the experience. I'm sure you'll understand, right? I mean, you play every match for England if your fit and you netted over a hundred premiership goals for the club, but at the end of the day, I'd rather use that future "world player of the year [my @rse]" Peter Crouch, Nando (y'know, that guy that was surplus to requirments at Real Madrid when you turned up), Cisse and a couple of eighteen year olds who could gain real experience playing week in, week out for a championship team rather than getting cold on the sidelines for us. So it's the reserves for you, you soon to be record breaking, £60 grand a week, international, prolific, will be legend! Toodle-oo!"

Horsesh!t.

You obviously have very limited knowledge of the game. I feel sorry for you.

This has to be a wind up. Surely? Someone is saying here that Michael Owen, one of the greatest talents ever to be produced by Liverpool and England, would be confined to the reserves by Peter funking Crouch? And I have "very limited knowledge of the game"? Please tell me that you are extracting the Urine. For the love of Liverpool, tell me you are having a joke at my expense. Or have your emoticons all stopped working? Should we be seeing little laughing faces after all these paragraphs?

If you are acyually being serious, if you are not drugged to your eyeballs, I think we ought to all chip in for one of those lovely jackets with the sleeves that tie up at the back and book you into one of those nice hotels with wall to wall cushions. Are you actually, catagorically and for the record saying that Michael Owen would not make it into your match day sixteen over Cisse, Crouch, Nando, Mellor or Sinema?

Please tell me that you are taking the mickey, because if you're not, I'm gonna be really, really depressed.

by **Reinas No.1 Fan** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:15 pm

I hope we sign him. Hes proven and 11 mill is a bargin especially if we sell baros.

He has better finishing ability than baros and ciise. He has a proven goal scoring record better than most in the premiership and anyone who thinks we dont need him is wrong ("in my opinion"). Not to mention he is english and we could do with a few more english players.

Another argument is that baros doesnt seem to be interested especially with his comments last season about getting stroppy when he is dropped and saying he wants to leave and stuff. At least Owen has gone and has learned the only place he will be loved and respected is liverpool.

so that means we will have:

Morientes
Cisse
Crouch
Owen
Sinama

That is a great strike force.

If others on this forum dont agree with me i prefer that they debate it rather than critisising it straight off.

(Can some one do a poll on if people want Liverpool to sign Owen or not, I'd do it but i dont know how)

by **RED ANT** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:17 pm

You can't be for real can you? These comments i think are by far the stupidest i've ever read on this forum and i've read some stupid ones over the months.

If you find yourself at a lost end over the coming weeks/ months let me know because there's a village at the bottom of our hill advertising for a new idiot. :down:

by **destro** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:45 pm

couldnt resist a new bit of gossip. moores and parry stayed behind last night to agree a 12 month loan deal with ST MIKE. not confirmed but if it turns out to be true im claiming it

by the way it was just said on the legends phone in , which is at the european champions home

by **109-1093441336** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:03 pm

What good is a loan, are they doin out of pity for poor little mikey who misses his mum's Sponge cake. i hope he doen't come but if does he's 4th behind Moro, jib and Strechy.

We'll play him in carling Cup with the youngsters.

"My dad told me about real in the 50's, I'm Like Gento, Real Madird is the best club in the world" star fu.cker can't even push out a little 20 y.o brazilian.

by **Luis Garcia** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:04 am

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
Luis Garcia wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:To be honest Banana your fighting a losing battle, as mentioned before the MAJORITY of liverpool fans WANT Michael Owen.

Our strike force is large but also injury prone and not strong. I would say only Cisse has the potential to be better than Owen

Yes , but Shanks, you seem to be brain dead, as Rafa as just bought crouch, and every time he has been asked if he wants Owen he says NO!

A lot of fans forget he turned his back on them, i think we sold him at the right time, he might not be the same player.

Me Brain dead? Your the one making up things rafa has said!

You show me ONE recent quote where Rafa has ruled out Michael Owen and i'll shut up. All he has ever said is that his priority is a CB and RM, an additional striker is always going to be on the cards when Baros is still likely to go.

If you think Cisse, Morientes and Crouch are enough to challenge for the title - your wrong. Injuries happen, look at Crouch already and the season hasn't even properly started.

I never said Rafa would cave in to the opinion of masses, I was stating a fact that the majority of Liverpool fans, the ones who realise his ability, want Owen back

Oh yeah forgot to say, we also have Pongolle and Mellor in the first team squad too. Rafa prob thinks he can utilise these strikers, as i dont see them heading for the door! athough injured right now.

I dont like Owen personally, he'd probably demand a first team start every game, and i think rafa wants to rotate things this season.

Whos he gonna displace? Shall we bench Cisse for 20 games?

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