Under a libyan sun - Origin of the song

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Postby kopeye » Sat Jul 12, 2003 3:35 pm

A'right

A bit of an old chestnut this but I'm trying to find the origin of the Kop anthem 'Poor Scouser Tommy'.

So far I've discovered that the 'Highland Division' he was put in was most probably the 2nd battlion The Liverpool Scottish (formed 1900), The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders (to whom they were and still are affiliated in times of war).

To be 'under a Libyan sun' would put him at the first battle of Tobruk in 1941 in which the city fell to Rommel. The 2nd were the last unit to surrender.

There is a version of the song which says 'under an Arabian sun' but I for one don't ever remember singing it on the Kop or away from home nearly every other week in the 70's. What's more is that we never fought the Nazis' in (Saudi) Arabia.

I don't know if this was a soldier's song adapted by the Kop or whether it was an entirely homespun thing.

Does anyone have any idea?
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Postby cheesecakery » Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:30 pm

Yes apparently it originated from Lonnie Donnegans greatest hits ,
nobody really could understand the words he was singing as he sang like the wind , so people just made up their own versions ,
my favourite is 'my old mans a dustman'

hope that was of some assistance
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Postby supersub » Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:54 pm

cheesey have you just been released from the nut-house and thats why we haven't heard from you for a couple of months.This care in the community is not working.
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Postby cheesecakery » Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:41 pm

uhhh ,,,, no  :(  honest
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Postby LFC4EVA » Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:22 am

kopeye wrote:A'right

A bit of an old chestnut this but I'm trying to find the origin of the Kop anthem 'Poor Scouser Tommy'.

So far I've discovered that the 'Highland Division' he was put in was most probably the 2nd battlion The Liverpool Scottish (formed 1900), The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders (to whom they were and still are affiliated in times of war).

To be 'under a Libyan sun' would put him at the first battle of Tobruk in 1941 in which the city fell to Rommel. The 2nd were the last unit to surrender.

There is a version of the song which says 'under an Arabian sun' but I for one don't ever remember singing it on the Kop or away from home nearly every other week in the 70's. What's more is that we never fought the Nazis' in (Saudi) Arabia.

I don't know if this was a soldier's song adapted by the Kop or whether it was an entirely homespun thing.

Does anyone have any idea?

I didn't think the words went 'under the libyan' I always thort it was 'under the 'rabian (arabian) which would make more sense...'nothing to see but the sand'...and I don't think its from any particular battle to be honest I think the song is just a generic representation of how devoted 'tommy' is to liverpool, that his last words where 'oh I am a liverpudlian, and I come from the spion kop......and so on. the origins probably do go back to the second world war 'shot by an old nazi gun'

I may be wrong but thats just my opinion.
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Postby cheesecakery » Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:51 am

:D  haaaaaaaaaa what a load of nonsense , good lord women
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