Racist attack in liverpool? - Its 2005, i thought we had moved on ffs!

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Postby 76-1115222408 » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:15 pm

The family of murder victim Anthony Walker, 18, who was killed with an axe in a racist attack, has paid tribute to the "loving, caring young man".
His older sister Dominique, 20, also made an emotional plea for people to help catch the gang who attacked him in Huyton, Merseyside on Friday night.

"If anybody knows anything, they have got to talk to the police," she said.

Merseyside Police said an 18-year-old man was arrested after three searches were carried out in the area.

An axe was found embedded in Mr Walker's skull following the attack. He died later in hospital.

 
He gave so much of his life to help other people

Dominique Walker
Dozens of floral tributes have been left at the murder scene.

Dominique Walker begged local people to help police, "Talk to them because we need the information. I need to find out who did this to my brother."

She said her brother loved playing football and was an Arsenal fan, but his main sport was basketball and he had trials for the Liverpool and England basketball teams.

"He was a very kind, loving, caring, young man. He gave so much of his life to help other people," she added.

Mr Walker waiting with his girlfriend at a bus stop outside the Huyton Park pub with his cousin when they were subjected to a "torrent of racial abuse" by a man.

They were attacked as they walked to another bus stop.

His girlfriend and cousin ran to get help. When they returned Anthony was slumped on the ground with massive head injuries.

He was taken to Whiston Hospital and later transferred to Walton neurological centre where he died at 0525 BST on Saturday.




This a very sad story to be reading in 2005, I just cant believe this to be honest.
I am asking this question to scousers (mainly!!), whenever I have been up for a game, normally 7-8 times a season, I have never felt any such feelings toward myself or friends I have been to the game with, but I have to admit I always head back home after a game and have never stayed over night, so dont know (i suppose!) if there are feelings like this throughout the city as I have never stayed long enough to make such an observation.

I AM JUST ASKING, BEFORE ANYONE BITES MY HEAD OFF, as I dont know........eighties fair enough (I am not saying it was right, but times were different then, there were some fans who didnt want Digger Barnes at the time, although a small minority, it was still the case! Liverpool fans away against Wimbledon comes to mind!) but in 2005 its just plain wrong!!
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Postby mistyred » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:17 pm

Amen to that brother R.I.P :(
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Postby Architect » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:18 pm

The axe-murder of Anthony Walker was barbaric, abhorrent and despicable. Every decent human being would totally condemn it.

However, I do feel that crimes against black people which are committed by whites are sometimes given more prominent news coverage compared to when a white person is attacked by someone from an ethnic minority.

It seems to me that some newspapers (like the Guardian and the Independent) would be more likely to put a racist murder of a black man on their front page, than if a white guy was killed by a black man.

These "liberal" papers tend to focus more strongly on racist murders committed by whites.

We've had more than ten years of newspaper headlines about the Stephen Lawrence murder (appalling though that crime was).

In newspapers like the Guardian, we don't tend to get so many newspaper headlines when a white man is killed by a black guy. In fact, it seems as if some papers are reluctant to comment on the colour of a criminal if he happens to be black.

For example, the recent appalling rape of a teacher by a 15-year old boy in a Westminster school was widely reported in the media - but it was not widely reported in the media that the boy rapist was black.

A link to the story of that appalling brutal rape, where a teacher had to fight for her life during the attack, is below:

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men....fe.html
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:47 pm

Yea I agree with a lot you say Architect, but I dont understand why the ethnic background of the youth who attacked the teacher is needed. It would be the same if the attack was done by a white youth, they wouldnt report it as 'a white youth has raped a teacher' so why should it be aby different for non-whites??

And I think also the point about a black man killing a white man, is a bit on the unfair side. Because how many white men have been killed by black men, as part of a RACIST attack??

Thats the difference, if it is a racial attack, they will report either way - ie; 'a white youth was beaten in a racially motivated attack by asian youths' or 'a black man was attacked by a white man in a racially motivated attack'.

IMO unless the crime commited is racially motivated, then the origin/race of a person is totally irrelevant.
Example; the majority of peadophiles are 'white' (much as in the same way the majority of muggers are [in london] 'black'), but we do not see it reported as 'another white peadophile is in jail tonight......' so I dont see why it should be any different for anybody else, as long as it is not a racially motivated crime!
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Postby [Dom2] » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:07 pm

:(  This lad was a good friend of a cousin of mine, and from what i heard he was absolutely harmless and wud never provoke such an attack! It really is a sad story!


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Postby 76-1115222408 » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:13 pm

Yes I forgot to add in my two post on this subject:

R.I.P Anthony Walker and YOU WILL NEVER WALK ALONE!!! 

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Postby Woollyback » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:02 pm

Unbelievable that this kind of thing can still happen in the 21st century in a city like Liverpool which has one of the oldest back communities in Europe. Its so very VERY sad :no

Architect, the colour of the offender is only mentioned when the crime he has committed was racist in it's motivation. If you think otherwise then I think you're just being paranoid
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Postby 2520years » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:03 pm

LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:Yea I agree with a lot you say Architect, but I dont understand why the ethnic background of the youth who attacked the teacher is needed. It would be the same if the attack was done by a white youth, they wouldnt report it as 'a white youth has raped a teacher' so why should it be aby different for non-whites??

And I think also the point about a black man killing a white man, is a bit on the unfair side. Because how many white men have been killed by black men, as part of a RACIST attack??

Thats the difference, if it is a racial attack, they will report either way - ie; 'a white youth was beaten in a racially motivated attack by asian youths' or 'a black man was attacked by a white man in a racially motivated attack'.

IMO unless the crime commited is racially motivated, then the origin/race of a person is totally irrelevant.
Example; the majority of peadophiles are 'white' (much as in the same way the majority of muggers are [in london] 'black'), but we do not see it reported as 'another white peadophile is in jail tonight......' so I dont see why it should be any different for anybody else, as long as it is not a racially motivated crime!

Those are basically my feelings.  This attack was clearly racially-motivated so it's right that race came into the reporting.  There was a white man in Glasgow killed by Asians a year or two back, which was racially-motivated and reported as such.  I heard Anthony had a white girlfriend, which might have been why he was targetted. I was in the same situation once, but we only got verbally abused. These hate-filled people don't deserve to live among decent, peaceful people.

My thoughts are with Anthony's family, who obviously put in years of hard work to bring up a lovely lad, only to have him brutally taken away in his prime.  I genuinely hope you find answers to all your questions...
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Postby Gaffa » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:13 am

R.I.P Anthony....... it is very sad to know all this racism still goes on esp to such limits, i have heard many stories that Liverpool being a bit racist but myself have never experienced or felt weird when i visited liverpool with myself being indian.

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Postby 84-1106852058 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:27 am

LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:I am asking this question to scousers (mainly!!), whenever I have been up for a game, normally 7-8 times a season, I have never felt any such feelings toward myself or friends I have been to the game with, but I have to admit I always head back home after a game and have never stayed over night, so dont know (i suppose!) if there are feelings like this throughout the city as I have never stayed long enough to make such an observation.

Unfortunatley racists attacks are a regular occurence in many citys,but not I hasten to add in liverpool.As Woolyback stated we have one of the oldest black communities in Britain and people mix with no problems at all.
This terrible murder has shocked us all,and my deepest sympathy goes to this young lads family.The sooner the animals who commited this crime are behind bars the better.
Next time you come up for the match,try and stay overnight your hub caps will be quite safe,and I feel sure you would have a great night on the town.
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:33 am

The Red Baron wrote:
LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:I am asking this question to scousers (mainly!!), whenever I have been up for a game, normally 7-8 times a season, I have never felt any such feelings toward myself or friends I have been to the game with, but I have to admit I always head back home after a game and have never stayed over night, so dont know (i suppose!) if there are feelings like this throughout the city as I have never stayed long enough to make such an observation.

Unfortunatley racists attacks are a regular occurence in many citys,but not I hasten to add in liverpool.As Woolyback stated we have one of the oldest black communities in Britain and people mix with no problems at all.
This terrible murder has shocked us all,and my deepest sympathy goes to this young lads family.The sooner the animals who commited this crime are behind bars the better.
Next time you come up for the match,try and stay overnight your hub caps will be quite safe,and I feel sure you would have a great night on the town.

Haha, 'hub caps' -  I have Chrome wheels, will they be safe too??  :laugh:  :D

Yea next time I'm gonna stay and visit a few of the many bars etc; that G-Mac and J-Mac talk about in the 'what are you drinking now ' thread!!! 

See what the local 'talent' is like too!!!   :D

Normally dont stay as I have footy on a sunday, and tbh I dont like missing my footy.....Well i gotta keep my scoring record at 1:2 dont I !!!   :cool:



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Side Note - I think they are reporting that an 18yr old (i think?) has been arrested in connection with this case!
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:34 am

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Postby adamnbarrett » Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:58 am

R.I.P Anthony Walker

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Postby Woollyback » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:44 am

reports this morning say that a second person has been arrested on suspicion of murder

the sooner these knuckle-dragging neanderthal thugs are locked up the better
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Postby stmichael » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:05 pm

Racism is endemic in our society.  Its terrible to say, but it is. 

I dont have an answer to how to sort it, but I reckon it's all about education, by schools, by your family, by your friends. I'm black myself and it's just sad that in a society where we are meant to be so advanced, a minority of indiviuals with a "neandrathal" mentality send us back to pre-historic times.

I hope that they get the people who did this, and they will.  Liverpool is a small world and the people who have done this; with their the "Big I-Am" mentality will let it slip to people that they done it and people will tell people and they will go to court.  :angry:
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