Darren potter - Not a winger!

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Postby wheels » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:10 pm

I noticed from reading a thread on the acadamy one or two people said they don't think Potter will make it. They are judging him from playing out of position. Potter is a central midfielder or plays behind the forwards. He has been average on the wing but Alonso would probably look average on the wing.

Potter has yet to start a first team game for Liverpool in the centre. He did move to the centre a few times during games and an example of this was against Middlesbrough in the Carling cup. Partridge came on and played on the right. Potter moved into the centre. Both Partridge and Potter set up Mellor's 2 goals. Another was Millwall away in the Carling cup. Finnan came on after an hour or so and played on the right of midfield. Potter moved into the centre. He took the shot which led to Baros' first and superbly set up Baros for his second.

All I ask is for people not to say Potter won't make it when he has yet to start a game in the centre. Obviously you can say it if you seen him play for the reserves a few times.

There is plenty of competition for places in the centre but that is Potter's position. He will never make it on the wing. Why not just let him play against the likes of TNS in the centre and he's always there for backup if needed.
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Postby adamnbarrett » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:08 pm

He may not be a winger but he certainly impressed me vs wrexham and TNS when he was playing there. Maybe rafa is trying to mould him into a winger and then the thought comes to mind is their anything rafa can't do?
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Postby 2520years » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:46 pm

We are short of a right-sided midfielder.  ALT played there tonight when he came on. I think Rafa is experimenting with the youngsters.
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Postby H_K_LFC » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:57 pm

Hes got potentiol wherever he plays in the midfield
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Postby Paul C » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:06 pm

I don't rate him, yeah he's young but I don't think either he, Raven or Welsh are good enough though I like Warnock and Whitbread.
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Postby wheels » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:10 pm

Paul C wrote:I don't rate him...

This is the reason I opened this thread. :) If you've seen him play for the reserves a few times in the centre than fair enough but its tough to judge him playing out of position.
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Postby yckatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:24 pm

wheels wrote:
Paul C wrote:I don't rate him...

This is the reason I opened this thread. :) If you've seen him play for the reserves a few times in the centre than fair enough but its tough to judge him playing out of position.

a lot of the time players do make their debuts out of position like gerrard and ashley cole for example. but no matter where they play you can usually spot the better players quite easily.
to me potter can spot a decent pass and has a lot of vision but i dont think he has all the tools in his locker or a tackling game to command a centre mid place and i dont think the vision and guile he has at the moment is of such a standard to have him in the side in a position usually reserved and only utilised by teams when they have the most talented footballers like daglish, cantona, beardsley and bergkamp etc. in their side.
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Postby Paul C » Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:56 am

wheels wrote:
Paul C wrote:I don't rate him...

This is the reason I opened this thread. :) If you've seen him play for the reserves a few times in the centre than fair enough but its tough to judge him playing out of position.

But their is a big difference between the first team and the reserves, also if I'm not correct weren't the reserves :censored: and got relagated  ???
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Postby philchampionsl2005 » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:08 am

on potter playing out of position he has been given his chance in the first team and has been impressive he's obvoiulsy not the quickest but does put decnet crosses into the box, i also like cos he's local and knows how to put his foot in keep in going

on a right winger figo has decided to stay questioning whether rafa will dip into the kitty for a right winger as figo was on a Free but who are possible targets joe coles name keeps comin up with swp at chelski could be a good move for him wat u think
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Postby 109-1093441336 » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:34 am

"He's local, he's english, yada yada yada" why dont we put that lad from the chippy in Birkehhead on the right wing, he's local, he's english. f.ucking bollox reasoning
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Postby PabloAimar » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:24 pm

cisse is the best right winger we have.
baros is the best attacker we have.
we've only won it 5 times
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Postby A.B. » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:29 pm

cisse is the best right winger we have.


Cisse isn't a winger he's a center forward. He won't be the solution to our problems on the right wing, we might as well keep playing Garcia there. He can't cross well enough to play there.

I doubt that Benitez will use him as a winger, we need three or four strikers for the season. The best way to solve our problems on the RM is to buy a quality RM if we can.
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Postby yckatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:44 pm

A.B. wrote:
cisse is the best right winger we have.


Cisse isn't a winger he's a center forward. He won't be the solution to our problems on the right wing, we might as well keep playing Garcia there. He can't cross well enough to play there.

I doubt that Benitez will use him as a winger, we need three or four strikers for the season. The best way to solve our problems on the RM is to buy a quality RM if we can.

i`d have to disagree with you there mate, i think he`s looked most effective when he`s played wide right and has space to run into. i`ve mentioned in another thread that i dont think he`s the type of player who will get the tap ins or enough scrappy goals to be considered a traditional leader of the line.
his close control of the ball isnt up to the standard where he can operate in traffic either so i think he`s already subconciously realised that to find the space he needs to utilise his pace he has to drift right of centre and in pre season its in those area`s he has been picking up the ball and moving naturally.
the times when he has caught the eye is when he has caught balls heading for the touchline that looked basically out and still managed to get a decent cross in.
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Postby mikopool » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:51 pm

Cisse scores most of his goals within the box, like horseface, putting him on a wing takes away one of his two positive attributes, his pace being the other, but he is not a proven winger, frankly, I would rather see him come on as a sub then be a winger.
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Postby yckatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:56 pm

mikopool wrote:Cisse scores most of his goals within the box, like horseface, putting him on a wing takes away one of his two positive attributes, his pace being the other, but he is not a proven winger, frankly, I would rather see him come on as a sub then be a winger.

i havent seen that much of him before he came here but to me he doesnt show the strikers instinct to get in the box and sniff out chances. i just dont see him following up rebounds or challenging centre halfs in the air. i could be wrong though.
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