Excuse me, but why do we need aimar

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Postby JC_81 » Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:50 pm

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john craig wrote:And i know ive mentioned this before, but seriously, if he was that good why haven't the other top spanish clubs been making noises about him like they do with joaquin and did do with alonso??  The reason is that they see him on a more consistent basis and don't think he's good enough

I agree with a loy u say, but this point u make, for me doesnt mean anything. Its like saying for example, Arsenal have Henry, Chelsea have John Terry or any number of top players, Man U have Rooney, Scholes etc; but you dont see the top four teams (us in that top four obviously, not the bitters!!!) trying to buy each others players that often.

It doesnt happen really does it, and this is because one team would be strengthening a rival - and what sense does that make !!!

Yep point taken,

but although many will say loyalty is going out of football (and to a degree it is), england is one of the places where you see hardly any transfers between top teams (almost an exception these days).

Spain and Italy are completely different.  Loyalty is almost non-existent.  Off the top of my head, davids has played for milan, inter and juve, vieri has played for every top italian team almost, davids for inter and milan.  In spain figo is the obvious one, Eto'o for real and barca, gerard from valencia to barca.  High profile transfers like these would never happen in england (i know some were not direct transfers but even so).

But aimar to barca or real?  Doesn't seem like it would be out of the ordinary to me.  In Spain, I think it is significant that the big 2 in particular haven't expressed an interest in aimar.  Its not the 'be all and end all' or anything but it can't be dismissed.

I agree with you about your english examples obviously, but that wasn't what i was thinking.  Ince playing for us and the scum is the only high profile one i can think of between 2 big english teams

yea point taken too matey.

But nearly all the transfers mainly the italian ones and the ince one, were not direct ie; we didnt get ince from the scum, he came via Inter.

Fair point (and i knew you would make it!!) about Figo, that was almost sacrilige what he did, but Et'oo never really played by Real - he played most of his career at Real Majorca, and when he was there he was co-owned by both Real and Majorca. But i see where you're coming though, but in terms of Aimar, i think its a little different because of the type of player he is - ie; a very different type of player that is extremely hard to replace - both in finding the player but also in funding the transfer fee. Others like a Davids or a Figo are top players (were i shud say!!) but can be replaced, an Aimar is slightly different in my opinion, and harder to replace.

Fair enough chief

Think we've probably debated this one to death and i better get some work done here!!

Catch you later :cool:
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:16 pm

john craig wrote:
LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:
john craig wrote:
LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:
john craig wrote:And i know ive mentioned this before, but seriously, if he was that good why haven't the other top spanish clubs been making noises about him like they do with joaquin and did do with alonso??  The reason is that they see him on a more consistent basis and don't think he's good enough

I agree with a loy u say, but this point u make, for me doesnt mean anything. Its like saying for example, Arsenal have Henry, Chelsea have John Terry or any number of top players, Man U have Rooney, Scholes etc; but you dont see the top four teams (us in that top four obviously, not the bitters!!!) trying to buy each others players that often.

It doesnt happen really does it, and this is because one team would be strengthening a rival - and what sense does that make !!!

Yep point taken,

but although many will say loyalty is going out of football (and to a degree it is), england is one of the places where you see hardly any transfers between top teams (almost an exception these days).

Spain and Italy are completely different.  Loyalty is almost non-existent.  Off the top of my head, davids has played for milan, inter and juve, vieri has played for every top italian team almost, davids for inter and milan.  In spain figo is the obvious one, Eto'o for real and barca, gerard from valencia to barca.  High profile transfers like these would never happen in england (i know some were not direct transfers but even so).

But aimar to barca or real?  Doesn't seem like it would be out of the ordinary to me.  In Spain, I think it is significant that the big 2 in particular haven't expressed an interest in aimar.  Its not the 'be all and end all' or anything but it can't be dismissed.

I agree with you about your english examples obviously, but that wasn't what i was thinking.  Ince playing for us and the scum is the only high profile one i can think of between 2 big english teams

yea point taken too matey.

But nearly all the transfers mainly the italian ones and the ince one, were not direct ie; we didnt get ince from the scum, he came via Inter.

Fair point (and i knew you would make it!!) about Figo, that was almost sacrilige what he did, but Et'oo never really played by Real - he played most of his career at Real Majorca, and when he was there he was co-owned by both Real and Majorca. But i see where you're coming though, but in terms of Aimar, i think its a little different because of the type of player he is - ie; a very different type of player that is extremely hard to replace - both in finding the player but also in funding the transfer fee. Others like a Davids or a Figo are top players (were i shud say!!) but can be replaced, an Aimar is slightly different in my opinion, and harder to replace.

Fair enough chief

Think we've probably debated this one to death and i better get some work done here!!

Catch you later :cool:

yea it was a good convo, without the badmouthing or aggression often found on the boards, and as i said earlier in the thread, it is nice when people actually back there points up, rather than just making a statement with no reasons behind it...cheers JC

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Postby PabloAimar » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:41 pm

thanks to all the fans in support of my transfer to liverpool. x
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Postby mighty mo » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:00 pm

ranieri said at valencia this season that aimar is too lightweight too cut it in the premiership,also i would prefer garcia over aimar because he has a eye for scoring vital and spectacular goals something aimar does not do.his goal scoring in spain for the last four years is not that good for a player in his position and so called status in the game.
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Postby matrix » Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:50 am

hey mighty mo ranieri only said that because aimar wanted to join us in the january window, he also tried to teach aimar a lesson by dropping him from the valencia team,, then guess what they went on a bad run, and then ranieri no more...aimar...aimar...aimar...
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Postby matrix » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:11 am

dont be shocked if rafa still bids for aimar it might still happen.
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Postby ALONSO_14 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:24 am

wouldnt mind aimar here at all, class player but we dont need him really he wouldnt fit in our midfield very well with gerrard and alonso but if aimar did come i wouldnt complain  :)
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Postby kops_revolution » Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:25 am

becoz aimar is the next maradona..
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Postby Sean » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:48 am

Didn't impress me in the confeds cup. Can't argue with Garcia's 14 goals last term but he'll have to learn how to keep possession better.

I wanyt Rafa to focus on buying a wide player who can suppluy quality crosses for Morientes.  If we don't buy somebody capable of feeding the big Spaniard he will be wasted at the club.
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Postby tubby » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:34 am

No one knows what Kewell will turn up. And yes when Garcia plays good hes excellent but when hes bad hes terrrible. As Rafa showed in the final in the second half Gerrards defensive abilities can be somtimes more useful despite him being able to score spectacular goals. Pablo Aimar could play behind the 2 strikers and is very good at attacking, hes very skillfull and is a qualityu passer of the ball. Any team would be lucky to have him. Size means nothing. Zola was a midget but he used to run round everyone, so was Zico and many other famous Brazillians and what about Paul Scholes?
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Postby Paul C » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:44 am

bavlondon wrote:No one knows what Kewell will turn up. And yes when Garcia plays good hes excellent but when hes bad hes terrrible. As Rafa showed in the final in the second half Gerrards defensive abilities can be somtimes more useful despite him being able to score spectacular goals. Pablo Aimar could play behind the 2 strikers and is very good at attacking, hes very skillfull and is a qualityu passer of the ball. Any team would be lucky to have him. Size means nothing. Zola was a midget but he used to run round everyone, so was Zico and many other famous Brazillians and what about Paul Scholes?

Paul Scholes is Ginger, whats your point  :p
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Postby PabloAimar » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:46 pm

i think aimar is gna sign new contract at valencia
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Postby A boy call flower » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:06 pm

Garcia is too weak for EPL... he gets push off the ball most of the time.. if not for his flair at scoring spectacular goals, i dun think we need him..
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